So Obamacare - I'm really opposed to it so I biased

[Hellbound Hellhound]

The one positive change to come from Obamacare was the stipulation that insurance companies would no longer be allowed to discriminate based upon whether or not an applicant had a pre-existing condition. This was a genuine step forward, and I don't see many opponents of Obamacare arguing against this particular aspect of the bill.

Other than that however, the now ironically named Affordable Care Act has been ineffectual at best, and perhaps counter-productive at worst.

The ultimate problem with the bill is the fact that it was gutted by a foolish compromise. The Obama administration should have stood their ground and refused to drop the public option, but the fact is they did, and insurance premiums have gone up as a result. If Trump is genuine about his aim of wanting to replace Obamacare with something better, then he should reintroduce the public option.

 

[Joan Nyan]

The one positive change to come from Obamacare was the stipulation that insurance companies would no longer be allowed to discriminate based upon whether or not an applicant had a pre-existing condition. This was a genuine step forward, and I don't see many opponents of Obamacare arguing against this particular aspect of the bill.

I'll argue against it: it's not fucking insurance if the thing you're insuring already broke. You don't crash your car and then buy car insurance to get it repaired. If you have a pre-existing condition and you buy health insurance, it's not insurance, it's just a complicated middleman that grifts a little off the top when you pay your doctor's bills.

 

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My experience with ObamaCare has been -at best- a goddamn fucking annoyance.

I'm going to avoid powerleveling here, but I will say I have a pre-existing condition I was diagnosed with decades ago, but of course the meds I need aren't covered by any available plans, and don't come in generic. Buuuut I still have to purchase a plan else come tax time I get dinged about 2% of my income in one lump fee, minimum. The plan I ended up with, the cheapest one, is literally paying some healthcare company about the equivalent of said fee, but instead broken down into monthly payments.

I am getting NOTHING out of this except having to pay an extra bill every month, and I STILL have to buy my own meds without any other assistance. It's complete bullshit.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

I'll argue against it: it's not fucking insurance if the thing you're insuring already broke. You don't crash your car and then buy car insurance to get it repaired. If you have a pre-existing condition and you buy health insurance, it's not insurance, it's just a complicated middleman that grifts a little off the top when you pay your doctor's bills.

It's not the pre-existing condition that you're insuring though. Like everyone else, you want insurance so that you don't get hit with a hefty bill when something goes wrong; when you get sick unexpectedly, etc. All the pre-existing condition clause within the ACA means is that insurance companies can't deny you insurance on the basis of a pre-existing condition. I'd say that's a decent step forward in the realm of patient protection.