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Lou Wrong said:
But if you make a thread about Gamergate on SA you get banned/probed and the thread deleted now. And you can't even mention the word SJW because its word filtered in a way to make it hard to make fun of.
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That's because whatever LT says, the mod community on SA is pure SJW. You're literally not allowed to have any opinion that differs from their bullshit.
 
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AnOminous said:
That's because whatever LT says, the mod community on SA is pure SJW. You're literally not allowed to have any opinion that differs from their bullshit.
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Gotta agree, while I'm not really on either side in the whole GG thing, I can definitely tell you that if you're pro GG and mention it, or if you mock the antis, you'll either get chased out, or just banned. Meanwhile if the antis started shitting up a thread, mocking gamers, crying bigotry and misogyny and whatnot, it's allowed. I'd love if the mods were more neutral and took the same actions regardless of who was shitting things up and derailing.

Like one thread I was reading, a guy told a story and used the word "thugs". Every other post after was just fuckers butting in and going "sooo, what color skin did these thugs have?", "gonna tell us what color those thugs were?" And on and on. Totally off-topic, but was allowed to continue. Regardless of the intent, derailing and shitting up a thread sucks, and needs to be dealt with, even if the derailers share the mods' views.

Obviously the mod community is going to have their own opinions and views, but lately they seem to be handpicked for certain views, and don't bother even pretending to be impartial.
 
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jace821 said:
It's up to the forum owner to make sure that doesn't happen. It's one thing for cliques to form, but it's another when people are banned or probated because they aren't in them or moderators don't like their opinions. Make a simple set of rules that aren't ambiguous and appoint people that will stick to them.
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No, you need moderator discretion on bans or decent beloved people will be turfed out over petty infractions and absolute cancer will shit the place up as long as they don't do anything against the rules.

The only way to run a successful webzone is to treat it like an autistic game of thrones. You need a counterweight to every power. Moderation staff needs to maintain a level of power to keep people from turning your forum into a spam toilet, but there has to be something to stop them from turning it into their own cool kids clique clubhouse. Traditionally it's the website owner's responsibility to step in curtail them if they get too uppity, but when you've got a userbase full of malicious doxing assholes who can ruin peoples lives, that tends to work pretty well too. And the power of the website owner also needs to be curtailed or you just end up with a retard running the webzone into the ground and nobody to tell him to stop. The power of the userbase needs to be curtailed or you end up with a cannabilistic mess of constant infighting where one bad post results in people having their irl lives ruined and chased off the internet forever. All in all you cannot have any degree of power, even the power to ban idiots on a webzone, without something to counteract it.

Part of what makes Kiwi Farms great is there is a balance of power and Null understands that it needs to be kept balanced. It might sound utterly autistic to treat webforuming like you're balancing the continental powers of Europe in the 1700's, but if you don't embrace that ridiculous powerplaying you end up with a shit webzone that everybody makes fun of. It looks like what happened to ruin SA was a clique of moderators having no counterbalance to their bullshit because Lowtax went absent and the userbase was made up of whiny faggots too afraid to make moderation's lives hell because their ten bucks was on the line.
 
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Dynastia said:
No, you need moderator discretion on bans or decent beloved people will be turfed out over petty infractions and absolute cancer will shit the place up as long as they don't do anything against the rules.

The only way to run a successful webzone is to treat it like an autistic game of thrones. You need a counterweight to every power. Moderation staff needs to maintain a level of power to keep people from turning your forum into a spam toilet, but there has to be something to stop them from turning it into their own cool kids clique clubhouse. Traditionally it's the website owner's responsibility to step in curtail them if they get too uppity, but when you've got a userbase full of malicious doxing assholes who can ruin peoples lives, that tends to work pretty well too. And the power of the website owner also needs to be curtailed or you just end up with an exceptional individual running the webzone into the ground and nobody to tell him to stop. The power of the userbase needs to be curtailed or you end up with a cannabilistic mess of constant infighting where one bad post results in people having their irl lives ruined and chased off the internet forever. All in all you cannot have any degree of power, even the power to ban idiots on a webzone, without something to counteract it.

Part of what makes Kiwi Farms great is there is a balance of power and Null understands that it needs to be kept balanced. It might sound utterly autistic to treat webforuming like you're balancing the continental powers of Europe in the 1700's, but if you don't embrace that ridiculous powerplaying you end up with a shit webzone that everybody makes fun of. It looks like what happened to ruin SA was a clique of moderators having no counterbalance to their bullshit because Lowtax went absent and the userbase was made up of whiny faggots too afraid to make moderation's lives hell because their ten bucks was on the line.
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Dynastia said:
No, you need moderator discretion on bans or decent beloved people will be turfed out over petty infractions and absolute cancer will shit the place up as long as they don't do anything against the rules.
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It's already happening, I see moderators "downvote" me, I see moderators leave, another moderator comes in and deletes my posts for unclear reasons. I see moderators and posters interact on each others profile pages, I see the threads they tend to frequent, there's definitely a SJW clique on this forum, they don't have enough power to start outright banning people for speaking out of turn yet. But I think they are gradually working their way up the totem pole. They want more of their buddies in the power team.

Some of them might be lolcows on this site, and they just want to destroy this place from the inside. Some might just be trolls who get their kicks from destroying forums.
 
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Brandobaris said:
It's already happening, I see moderators "downvote" me, I see moderators leave, another moderator comes in and deletes my posts for unclear reasons. I see moderators and posters interact on each others profile pages, I see the threads they tend to frequent, there's definitely a SJW clique on this forum, they don't have enough power to start outright banning people for speaking out of turn yet. But I think they are gradually working their way up the totem pole. They want more of their buddies in the power team.

Some of them might be lolcows on this site, and they just want to destroy this place from the inside. Some might just be trolls who get their kicks from destroying forums.
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No, you're a fucking idiot and nobody respects you. The power of Null and the moderators is the only reason you're not being utterly fucking crucified by the userbase.
 
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