Sonichu Sonichu 12-9 - The Night Star comic

[Second Missing Primarch]

Since the released comic is less than half the length as the previous ones, can anyone complain to Patreon in order to get their money back? I would imagine that being woefully late with delivery of a product that, in addition, does not meet the expected length/quality would open CWC to a number of disputed donations.

Nope. Patreon's TOS specifically states that they're not liable for loss of money based on failure to deliver rewards. As far as they're concerned, that's a matter between the creator and the patron.

Spoiler: Patreon TOS, important stuff is bolded.

If you lose money as a result of using Patreon, any payment to you is limited to how much you have paid us, and we don’t have to pay you if your loss is unexpected. To the extent permitted by law, we are not liable to you for any incidental, consequential or punitive damages arising out of these terms, or your use or attempted use of Patreon. To the extent permitted by law, our liability for damages is limited to the amount of money we have earned through your use of Patreon. We are specifically not liable for loss associated with failure to deliver rewards and from losses caused by conflicting contractual agreements.

If you support a creator on a monthly basis, your pledge is renewed on the 1st of every month. You'll need to delete your pledge prior to the 1st of the next month if you want to avoid the next month's charge. Since Patreon only provides the venue upon which transactions between users are made, we do not issue refunds on behalf of creators. If a patron would like to request a refund, they will need to contact the creator in order to do so. Creators can issue refunds from their Relationship Manager after looking up the patron by name. The three most recent payments will also be listed. Click refund next to the payment.

 

[Mick92]

The "Night Star" pony name came from one of those stupid Facebook "what would your ponysona name be" quizzes or some online pony name generator bullshit. I'm not sure about the others (Gallop Crush. Sugar Darling, Diamond Melody, etc.) but I'd guess they are either the products of Chris's fevered imagination or some other name generator thingie.

Well, that would explain the generic-ness of it. There are probably hundreds of other Night Stars out there.

 

[Nurse Ratchet]

I really shouldn’t be surprised by now but it never fails to amaze me at just how small Chris’s world really is.

The only male with a significant presence in CWC’s life was Bob (who designed shit at GE) and the first major male (non-self-insert) character in the series also designs things at GE. I know Chris has the ‘tism and has no theory of mind and blah-blah-blah but, along with having zero creativity, his experience in the real world is so sadly limited.

Are you trying to say that you don't think taking a date on a tour of the GE plant would be a mad fuckin panty-dropper??

 

[.Magichan]

Nope. Patreon's TOS specifically states that they're not liable for loss of money based on failure to deliver rewards. As far as they're concerned, that's a matter between the creator and the patron.

Spoiler: Patreon TOS, important stuff is bolded.

If you lose money as a result of using Patreon, any payment to you is limited to how much you have paid us, and we don’t have to pay you if your loss is unexpected. To the extent permitted by law, we are not liable to you for any incidental, consequential or punitive damages arising out of these terms, or your use or attempted use of Patreon. To the extent permitted by law, our liability for damages is limited to the amount of money we have earned through your use of Patreon. We are specifically not liable for loss associated with failure to deliver rewards and from losses caused by conflicting contractual agreements.

If you support a creator on a monthly basis, your pledge is renewed on the 1st of every month. You'll need to delete your pledge prior to the 1st of the next month if you want to avoid the next month's charge. Since Patreon only provides the venue upon which transactions between users are made, we do not issue refunds on behalf of creators. If a patron would like to request a refund, they will need to contact the creator in order to do so. Creators can issue refunds from their Relationship Manager after looking up the patron by name. The three most recent payments will also be listed. Click refund next to the payment.

Wouldn't Chris' threats against Donald Trump and his nude leaks violate Patreon's terms of service if someone wants to report him?

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

Wouldn't Chris' threats against Donald Trump and his nude leaks violate Patreon's terms of service if someone wants to report him?

If he was using Patreon to do it, sure. But if it's not taking place on their platform, they don't give a shit. They don't even bother screening the stuff that creators post; they depend on the community to police itself by reporting any funny business.

 

[Kuruminha]

Well, that would explain the generic-ness of it. There are probably hundreds of other Night Stars out there.

Literally and figuratively ::tistic::

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Nope. Patreon's TOS specifically states that they're not liable for loss of money based on failure to deliver rewards. As far as they're concerned, that's a matter between the creator and the patron.
[/SPOILER]

At least in this case that policy is warranted. If you're stupid enough to 'pledge' money to Chris you don't deserve to waste other people's time when you decide it wasn't worth it.

 

[Don Herbert]

Chris can't just pick one, he has to be everything, a perfect being.
Chris is a human/Pokémon/talking hedgehog/unicorn pony pegasus/computer/God amongst men hybrid with electric and psychic powers that can travel through dimensions and foresee the apocalypse, but is not Mary Sue because autism I guess. And it's not just a character, it's all real!

He is Bulrog, and he has lots and lots of powers.

That's the thing; those ARE horrifyingly plump lips

I believe that's actually a tongue.

 

[.Magichan]

If he was using Patreon to do it, sure. But if it's not taking place on their platform, they don't give a shit. They don't even bother screening the stuff that creators post; they depend on the community to police itself by reporting any funny business.

But they got Sargon for saying racial shit outside of Patreon right? Granted, Sargon was a fucking imbecile for not apologizing when they gave him the option, but still.

 

[Son of Big Boss]

Remember when "Sonichu" used to be about Sonichu?
Yeah, me neither.

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

But they got Sargon for saying racial shit outside of Patreon right? Granted, Sargon was a fucking imbecile for not apologizing when they gave him the option, but still.

This is an excerpt from Patreon's Medium post about booting Sargon:

"Some people worry that we are reviewing content not posted on Patreon. As a funding platform, we don’t host much content, but we help fund creations across the internet. As a result, we review creations posted on other platforms that are funded through Patreon. Sargon is well known for his collaborations with other creators and so we apply our community guidelines to those collaborations, including this interview."

This sounds to me like code for "the woke brigade were reeeeing at us to dump him, so we were looking for any excuse to do it, no matter how flimsy." At other times, Patreon's higher-ups have claimed that they don't police creators' offsite activities, so this was a pretty flagrant case of them making shit up to justify deplatforming him because they didn't like his politics, rather than because he'd committed any actual violations of their TOS. I'm not a fan of Sargon, but that whole thing is some disingenuous bullshit.

Getting back on topic, I don't think this would happen to Chris. He's not nearly as high-profile as Sargon, and more to the point he's the sort of person Patreon caters to (strong brave autistic bisexual trans artist), so I doubt they'd deplatform him just for reeeing about Trump and having some nudes leaked.

 

[Incredible Crisis]

With patreon, you don't purchase products. You are patronizing an artist. You're basically throwing money at them for them to survive on, in the hope that in their idleness, they might produce artwork.

The prizes you receive are basically free gifts they provide in gratitude.

Patreon's original purpose was that you were supporting an artist's normal flow of content per unit of content. So a musician would get paid X per song, for example. It was meant to be a supplemental income.

It has largely devolved into porn fanart subscriptions and funding the lives of unemployed queer cultural critics and gender studies majors.