Sonichu Sonichu 15 - Chris rips off Rosechu's Story comic

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Mr. 0 said:
chris's earliest works were flat-out traced (badly but traced), learn your christory please
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Why do you still use that term like it's synonymous with copying, even after Trickie explained the process?

Why are you so convinced that Chris printed out paper copies of those Sonic poses, then laid another piece of paper on top and drew along the lines to the best of his ability? Instead of just, you know, eyeing the original piece and trying to replicate it to the best of his ability?
 
Incognito Mode said:
Why do you still use that term like it's synonymous with copying, even after Trickie explained the process?

Why are you so convinced that Chris printed out paper copies of those Sonic poses, then laid another piece of paper on top and drew along the lines to the best of his ability? Instead of just, you know, eyeing the original piece and trying to replicate it to the best of his ability?
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Because he traced it

Chris and art - CWCki

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Mr. 0 said:
Because he traced it

Chris and art - CWCki

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"Alternatively, Chris uses these images as references and simply tries to draw images free-hand based on them. This is no worse than directly tracing the outlines, but better explains why his results are so distorted in respect to their references."

I admit having forgot about the Reflecta Sketch though, and had no idea about the "tracejobs" being mirrored versions of the originals, which does point towards Chris resorting to that awful toy. Many "artists" that trace do the mirroring thing hoping that people will be less likely to notice the similarity, but I doubt Chris has ever had this concern.

But if all the images featured in that section are supposed to be tracejobs, then it means Chris has pioneered the sleazy habit into an actual autistic artform because there's basically ZERO overlap between the original and Chris' abomination. Good example:

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While I do see a general improvement in his style, I just know that once the source material has been copied, taken, and discarded like a used condom as we all know Chris will do, I fear his style will return to how it used to be. If it actually improves permanently, Trickie should be given some massive kudos for allowing this blatant misuse of Rosechu's Story and actually inadvertently improving on Chris' art capabilities.
 
Chris is "drawing" Sonichu 15 is because it doesn't required much work from just copying Trickie's work, that's why he is pumping out so many pages in such a short amount of time. It's a nice display of "hard" and "recovered creativity" work from him so that the patreon numbers will go back up, and more money for Bronycon. Once Bronycon is over, with whatever fuck up that will happen, he will lose motivation and the "stress", merge or some "bullying" bullshit will hurt his "creativity" once again. So I doubt his art will ever improve.
 
Cedric_Eff said:
I’d be shocked if Chris adapts The Real Sonichu.
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Won’t happen. A. Blank’s story radically deviates from his and doesn’t pay enough Attention to Chris himself.
B. Blank’s art style is so different from what Chris thinks his should look like that it would be too much effort for him recreate what Blank does (a.k.a he can’t trace blanks work)
 
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For everone who thinks that Chris is not tracing because no overlays....i have to remind you that he draws so sloppy that he can't even color without overstepping lines to this day. You don't need extra thin paper to trace. Don't even printing the pictures. Just hold your paper to the screen and there you go. But Chris owns a tracing device too.
 
Wraith said:
I remember back in the day someone on /v/ posted either a comic or something about Tim Buckley and his Ctrl Alt Del abomination where Tim's art was getting so stale he would literally copy pasta his own facial features of his characters from old comics onto new ones.
I want to see that with Chris at this point. I kind of miss the old days.
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Very late but I swear I remember a video years ago of Tim (when people gave enough shit about him to even mock him) making a comic live. I am almost positive he had a folder for eyes and mouths and would just place whatever fit. He probably had heads, arms, etc all in there too.

Also what would someone get out of suing Chris? He has no assets. Other than the ability to avoid responsiblity, he has nothing but greasy smelly toys and his mom's underwear drawer.
 
Props to Trickie for being mellow about this. At any rate, getting butthurt or taking Chris-Chan to court over plagiarism when it's his ripped off character would be pretty weird.

That said, it's sad Chris-Chan can't even do his own work any more.
 
Trickie said:
has really jumped out at me so far. It's kind of subtle, but when something is traced, even if the lines are sloppy, the proportions should roughly match up when you overlay one on top of the other.

Again, if you can find anything in her pages that's been directly traced from my art please let me know, because I would have a problem with that.

Also, suing Chris sounds like the least fun way to get doxed...
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Granted, I haven’t gone super photoshop cop on his version of Rosechu’s story, but comparing the two, I think it’s obvious that he has traced the vast majority of it.

Especially considering:

* The speed at which he’s churning out these pages.

* The drastic improvement in quality. Notice for example how the usual Chris characteristic: Limbs that aren’t the same thickness/length is almost completely gone.

* Composition is entirely the same.

As far as I can tell, he has traced the outline of characters, etc. of every panel in your comic, and in some places copied the details (facial expressions, etc.) by hand, and in other places traced those too.

If anyone would have the time and energy to superimpose the two versions, or put the same panel nest to each other, I think it would be obvious.

Btw: One of the interesting things about this comic, is to compare the two versions and look at the few places where Chris deviated from Trickie’s original.

(And pretty much every time he did that, he made it worse, lol!)

For example:

*Trickie’s Sonichu: Comes across as kind of dim witted. He’s the classic dumbass with a kind heart character. The flawed Sonichu is likable and actually kinda interesting.

*Chris’s Sonichu: Chris actively avoids any hint of Sonichu not being that bright, and totally changes the dynamic of when Sonichu balances a spoon on his nose. Rather than using it to show that he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer, in Chris’s version he does it to cheer up a person he’s literally just met, which is kinda creepy. Sonichu trying to find some need to fill for Rosechu also comes across as kinda stalkerish and creepy.

*Trickie’s kitchen scene: Kel pulls Rosechu out in the kitchen, and explains why she needs her help. Sonichu is rare, professor wont be back for a while, we need him to stay till then. Everyone’s motivations are explained, and we get some exposition. Good stuff!

*Chris’s kitchen scene: Chris removes most of that scene and replaces it with an unnecessary mini-Sonichu adventure. A few snippets of dialogue from the original remain, but they don’t really make any sense in isolation. Why do they invite Sonichu to stay then? Who knows. They just do! Because reasons.

Personally I find it quite remarkable that Chris, despite having watched tens of thousands of hours of TV shows and reading comics, still has no idea on how to tell a story. And in fact, given a great story to copy, manages to derail it in the first few pages!
 
Fapcop said:
Btw: One of the interesting things about this comic, is to compare the two versions and look at the few places where Chris deviated from Trickie’s original.

(And pretty much every time he did that, he made it worse, lol!)

For example:

*Trickie’s Sonichu: Comes across as kind of dim witted. He’s the classic dumbass with a kind heart character. The flawed Sonichu is likable and actually kinda interesting.

*Chris’s Sonichu: Chris actively avoids any hint of Sonichu not being that bright, and totally changes the dynamic of when Sonichu balances a spoon on his nose. Rather than using it to show that he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer, in Chris’s version he does it to cheer up a person he’s literally just met, which is kinda creepy. Sonichu trying to find some need to fill for Rosechu also comes across as kinda stalkerish and creepy.

*Trickie’s kitchen scene: Kel pulls Rosechu out in the kitchen, and explains why she needs her help. Sonichu is rare, professor wont be back for a while, we need him to stay till then. Everyone’s motivations are explained, and we get some exposition. Good stuff!

*Chris’s kitchen scene: Chris removes most of that scene and replaces it with an unnecessary mini-Sonichu adventure. A few snippets of dialogue from the original remain, but they don’t really make any sense in isolation. Why do they invite Sonichu to stay then? Who knows. They just do! Because reasons.

Personally I find it quite remarkable that Chris, despite having watched tens of thousands of hours of TV shows and reading comics, still has no idea on how to tell a story. And in fact, given a great story to copy, manages to derail it in the first few pages!
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Yeah, despite all the soul searching and improvement OPL claims to have done as a person as well as an artist, he still wants all his OCs to be the smartest, nicest, strongest guys around, hence why he removes any hint of them having flaws or ulterior motives. Well, as long as it's about stuff he himself sees and recognizes as negative traits, which is why his version of this Sonichu still feels stalkerish and creepy at places.

As for the whole art debacle: I'm willing to believe Chris didn't literally light trace Trickie's art, rather he's very heavily and blatantly referenced them, like keep the original page right next to the one he's drawing at all times referencing. It really shows Chris' art can slightly improve when he doesn't have to bother with figuring out how things would look the best himself, but don't think he's learning anything from the process, consciously or otherwise. I'm positive that without a reference to follow step by step OPL's back to his usual wobbly proportions, poor detail and flat angles.
 
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ShittyRecolor said:
Yeah, despite all the soul searching and improvement OPL claims to have done as a person as well as an artist, he still wants all his OCs to be the smartest, nicest, strongest guys around, hence while he removes any hint of any of them having flaws or ulterior motives. Well, as long as it's about stuff he himself sees and recognizes as negative traits, hence while his version of this Sonichu still feels stalkerish and creepy at places.

As for the whole art debacle: I'm willing to believe Chris didn't literally light trace Trickie's art, rather he's very heavily and blatantly referenced them, like keep the original page right next to the one he's drawing at all times referencing. It really shows Chris' art can slightly improve when he doesn't have to bother with figuring out how things would look the best himself, but don't think he's learning anything from the process, consciously or otherwise. I'm positive that without a reference to follow step by step OPL's back to his usual wobbly proportions, poor detail and flat angles.
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Another thing that’s interesting, is to look at the (very few) places he deviated and added his own content.

Obviously the stuff he added must have been very important to him.

And what do we see? We have Sonichu explaining how fate brought him here, and his creepy desire to cheer up and “support” a person he’s just met. (This I believe is Chris explaining to the world for the 82nd time how he’s kind and supportive. As well as Chris’s stalwart belief in fate.)

The other time he deviates, is to tell the origin story of Rosechu, where we see how her parent and Mewtwo are watching from afar, interfering and helping when necessary as two sort of guardian angels.

This motif of a very powerful protective character, a guardian angel, is a constant feature of Chris’s comics. (As well as his imagination. Remember how Mewtwo was his personal guardian angel before they... (stress sigh) got married?)

It’s Chris’s deep, inner desire for a mommy or a daddy to take care of him, that we see here. The world is a chaotic and scary place, and Chris, despite being almost 40, literally still has the mindset of a child.
 
Fapcop said:
Another thing that’s interesting, is to look at the (very few) places he deviated and added his own content.

Obviously the stuff he added must have been very important to him.

And what do we see? We have Sonichu explaining how fate brought him here, and his creepy desire to cheer up and “support” a person he’s just met. (This I believe is Chris explaining to the world for the 82nd time how he’s kind and supportive. As well as Chris’s stalwart belief in fate.)

The other time he deviates, is to tell the origin story of Rosechu, where we see how her parent and Mewtwo are watching from afar, interfering and helping when necessary as two sort of guardian angels.

This motif of a very powerful protective character, a guardian angel, is a constant feature of Chris’s comics. (As well as his imagination. Remember how Mewtwo was his personal guardian angel before they... (stress sigh) got married?)

It’s Chris’s deep, inner desire for a mommy or a daddy to take care of him, that we see here. The world is a chaotic and scary place, and Chris, despite being almost 40, literally still has the mindset of a child.
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The state of Virginia will be taking care of him soon.
 
ShittyRecolor said:
As for the whole art debacle: I'm willing to believe Chris didn't literally light trace Trickie's art, rather he's very heavily and blatantly referenced them, like keep the original page right next to the one he's drawing at all times referencing. It really shows Chris' art can slightly improve when he doesn't have to bother with figuring out how things would look the best himself, but don't think he's learning anything from the process, consciously or otherwise. I'm positive that without a reference to follow step by step OPL's back to his usual wobbly proportions, poor detail and flat angles.
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Welp, I guess you’re more optimistic than me! ;)

I’m certain that he traced it (or parts of it) as opposed to just copying while looking at it.

There’s no way he could have drawn the legs and arms that well by just copying.

If you can’t manage to draw a straight line much of the time, or make legs and arms have a uniform thickness, then just looking at another drawing won’t help you.

Just look for example, at the few times that someone has sent some fan art to Chris in the past, and he has copied it. The quality of Chris’s copy is nowhere near as high as in these pages.
 
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