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Mister Fister said:
Modern consoles make you do all those things now, a plug in cartridge and play console would be amazing
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At most you need to wait for an update to automatically install. That IS very annoying. Often I'll finally be in the mood to play a game on a whim and I have to wait for an update, so I do it and then I'm not in the mood to play it anymore, rinse and repeat (mobile games in particular are very bad about this).
 
whatever I feel like said:
15 years straight of flops and cancellations from Jade.
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not really, she worked and some some successful games, albeit only in a more business-related position.
the whole "making games" thing is probably based on ubisoft putting her front and center in the marketing...

LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
Isn't Expedition 33 AAA though? I know its a new studio and all but there's literally hundreds of people in the credits.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=04wAYTaqNkI
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AAA is (or used to) based on the budget, given the average cost of AAA(A) these days I doubt it was that high.

Belvedere said:
You are preaching to the choir, but I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend these issues aren't becoming endemic in the PC space were game developers are shipping titles with the use of frame generation and AI upscaling in mind just to hit the target performance metrics. This is not about "good" or "bad" games, this is about a trend that is becoming the default for all games.

For example, Doom: The Dark Ages requires a Raytracing capable GPUs because there is no option to turn it off, and knowing how demanding is RT, they are funneling people into using upscaling just to hit playable framerates. I hope they release a future update that makes RT optional (or someone figures out how to mod it off) but the fact the game shipped without that option is a symptom of how they are pushing this stuff onto players whether we like it or not.
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that's just AAAA slop tho that's flopping left and right.
 
ZMOT said:
AAA is (or used to) based on the budget, given the average cost of AAA(A) these days I doubt it was that high.
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tbh i doubt E33 costed less than 60$ million to make. The credits alone speak of a substantial investment on par with other big studio games. Maybe the standards are so bloated that 40-60 million range is not AAA anymore. I've seen people call Kingdom Come an Indie game so i don't know anymore.
 
Mister Fister said:
Can someone tell me the point of these new consoles? They seem like gimped PCs with none of the advantages of a PC nor a traditional console.
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The current Playstation exists as a status symbol for niggers, the current Xbox exists to sell subscriptions and as an alternate status symbol, and the current Nintendo system exists to sell exclusives because the profit margins are bigger than they would be on a third party platform.

In other words, same ol’ same ol’.
 
LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
Isn't Expedition 33 AAA though? I know its a new studio and all but there's literally hundreds of people in the credits.
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LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
tbh i doubt E33 costed less than 60$ million to make. The credits alone speak of a substantial investment on par with other big studio games. Maybe the standards are so bloated that 40-60 million range is not AAA anymore. I've seen people call Kingdom Come an Indie game so i don't know anymore.
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Asking what counts as AAA is a can of worms that I've gotten into autistic arguments with others over. The term AAA has no real definition, it's just a marketing buzzword that was thrown around by big Western publishers and game journalists to hype up highly-marketed games, especially starting from the PS3/360 era (but it had some use before that too). Does it signify budget? Quality? Prestige? The marketing budget? Whether a game is AAA is basically just up to whether you think it "feels" like one.

And indie is basically the same at this point. It used to have a relatively clear definition of games that are made by one person or tiny teams that are unaffiliated with any large publishers, often self-published, but now people just kind of use it for any game they don't consider AAA.
 
des Pudels Kern said:
I said "but" to highlight my potential hypocrisy in case it is being considered AAA.
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i don't think its bad though. More Mid-budget AAA games that are allowed to take risks would be a better alternative than the AAAA slop the big players want to make a thing.

Retarded Weeb said:
And indie is basically the same at this. It used to have a relatively clear definition of games that are made by one person or tiny teams that unaffiliated with any large publishers, often self-published, but now people just kind of use it for any game they don't consider AAA.
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yeah, i am still caught up in that definition. It not that is good or bad but its difficult for me to really categorize something with commitments to investment capital and a a corporate structure as indie. Its become kinda like an "underdog" tag for studios that aren't as big.
 
Two Dollars said:
The current Playstation exists as a status symbol for niggers, the current Xbox exists to sell subscriptions and as an alternate status symbol, and the current Nintendo system exists to sell exclusives because the profit margins are bigger than they would be on a third party platform.

In other words, same ol’ same ol’.
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The third console curse is real, except no company ever recovers.
Xbox and Xbox 360 were amazing. After that, complete shit.
Ps1 and PS2 were amazing. After that, complete shit.
Sega Master System, Mega Drive and Dreamcast were amazing, the rest were shit (Sega are the exception)
Nintendo Entertainment System, SNES were amazing. After that, complete shit.
 
LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
tbh i doubt E33 costed less than 60$ million to make.
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AAA games cost several times that now.

Bog-standard Poster said:
The third console curse is real, except no company ever recovers.
Xbox and Xbox 360 were amazing. After that, complete shit.
Ps1 and PS2 were amazing. After that, complete shit.
Sega Master System, Mega Drive and Dreamcast were amazing, the rest were shit (Sega are the exception)
Nintendo Entertainment System, SNES were amazing. After that, complete shit.
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You're forgetting Saturn there (edit: nevermind, misread). Also, N64 was pretty good, GC is amazing.
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
The third console curse is real, except no company ever recovers.
Xbox and Xbox 360 were amazing. After that, complete shit.
Ps1 and PS2 were amazing. After that, complete shit.
Sega Master System, Mega Drive and Dreamcast were amazing, the rest were shit (Sega are the exception)
Nintendo Entertainment System, SNES were amazing. After that, complete shit.
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People like to suck the dick of the N64, but don't realize how actually fucking awful and limiting that system was, especially with the rest of the industry moving on with Nintendo stuck in the past.
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
This was speculated on months ago, but Sony are following Microsoft (again) in ditching sales as a metric of success and are instead focusing on MAU instead.
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I've heard this music before, but it's been awhile. Let's dig through my old dust-filled memory a moment...

...a-ha! Found it! "Monthly Active Users" is a fun sleight-of-hand to make something look far more popular (and worthy of external investment by, say, venture capitalists) and tends to swell up the more it's fudged. It inflates. Almost like a "bubble" of sorts. A lot of tech companies did this in the first major "burst" of an entire industry when they tried to build up popular services, offered to users for free, to attract big user counts and big investors who see dollar signs amid those high numbers. We called those companies "dot-coms."

I'm actually kinda impressed these C-suite fools made it 25 years before trying the dot-com bubble gambit again. But they sure do want dot-com bubble burst 2.0, it seems.
 
CaptainAutism69 said:
Rare carried that console
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That's subjective... Nintendo had a lot of good 1st party games for that system (Mario Party and Mario Kart were all the rage, not to mention both Pokemon Stadium games at the height of Pokemon's popularity in the west), plus I remember a lot of wrestling fans using that system specifically to play their wrestling games. Of course this was all before the Smackdown series started gaining traction as "the best" wrestling game (Starting with "2 Know Your Role"... 1st one really wasn't that great, especially the solo campaign).
 
BigBadBastich said:
You either gamed on PC, Saturn or PS1. Same thing when the Gamecube rolled around.
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funny because in here N64 was the hot shit because of mario kart and mario party.
else PS1 was the second due to fifa and tony hawk.
saturn was the redhead stepchild and no one played/owned much of it outside sonic.

other than that once gamecube gen released PS2 was undisputed, xbox if you wanted to halo with the boys all night from fri to sat and gamecube was there in case you wanted to play mario party and metroid, that's it.
 
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