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All of the entertainment industry is increasingly moving towards the idea that exclusives don't attract enough new customers to make more money than selling their products to everyone, e.g. TV shows meant to pull cable viewers to streaming often just air on cable at the same time now, and the movie theaters to home video gap for movies keeps getting shorter.
Microsoft games like Forza releasing on PlayStation for the first time and making a gazillion dollars probably started turning the gears in their head that they can do the same thing with their tired IPs and not lose many customers because most people just buy a PlayStation to play Call of Duty and FIFA.
In particular I expect they want to take Spider-Man multiplatform because they lose tons of money on it and it would be a fast seller. They're probably also going to figure out that like Gears of War Reloaded, TLOU Part 1 is a shitty value proposition for PlayStation fans, but could earn a lot from other groups who didn't already buy it twice.
 
Belvedere said:
A rather hypocritical lawsuit all things considered.
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It's just an attempt to bury the competition in legal fees and drag out the process as much as possible until they run out of money and energy. Nintendo has money to burn.

Nintendo should be asking Game Freak why they're not capable of making a competitive product instead.

Doing shit like that should be illegal.
 
regalterry said:
Nintendo should be asking Game Freak why they're not capable of making a competitive product instead.
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regalterry said:
What I find truly amazing is that both MicroSoft and Sony, two of the largest, oldest and most profitable IT companies on the planet, are seemingly so inept they can't take advantage of their opponent's near constant fumbles, and instead always opt to punch themselves in the face.

Literally all either of the two has to do is be marginally less retarded than their competitor, and they can't even manage that.

I know MS is jeetified, but surely Sony has not reached the same levels of curry saturation as MS, so what gives?
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Soyny is much worse off than Microsoft, their gaming division is run by Californians
The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Sony Is Suing Tencent For Alleged “Slavish Clone” of its Horizon Series, Light of Motiram (archive)
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Tencent won't give two fucks, which is unironically based. Even funnier is the implication that anyone would want to copy a piece of shit like Horizon.
 
regalterry said:
It's just an attempt to bury the competition in legal fees and drag out the process as much as possible until they run out of money and energy. Nintendo has money to burn.
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That one time Nintendo with all its litigious might and money got mogged by a humble, locally owned LatAm grocery store. This case is one of those rare exceptions in Nintendo's long history of being a sue-happy bully when they were told they were full of shit and to knock it off.

"No, you don't get to tell a man named Mario who owns a supermarket how to name his business!"

I hope this happens in the PocketPair lawsuit and the judge looks pass Nintendo's transparent patent troll level bullshit.

"No you don't get to file patents after-the-fact on mechanics that have existed on other games for decades!"

Sony needs to fuck off too with the Light of Motiram lawsuit.

The industry should behave more like what happened between Nier:Automata and Stellar Blade. Stellar Blade's creation was heavily inspired by Nier:Automata, Shift Up's owner made no attempt to hide how much he idolizes Nier Automata. Did Square sue Shift Up for these similarities? No they fully embraced it and collaborated with that project including Nier Automata content into Stellar Blade and Nikke as part of this cross promotion. In the end both games and companies benefited and positive costumer good will was established.
 
Belvedere said:
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That one time Nintendo with all its litigious might and money got mogged by a humble, locally owned LatAm grocery store. This case is one of those rare exceptions in Nintendo's long history of being a sue-happy bully when they were told they were full of shit and to knock it off.

"No, you don't get to tell a man named Mario who owns a supermarket how to name his business!"

I hope this happens in the PocketPair lawsuit and the judge looks pass Nintendo's transparent patent troll level bullshit.

"No you don't get to file patents after-the-fact on mechanics that have existed on other games for decades!"

Sony needs to fuck off too with the Light of Motiram lawsuit.

The industry should behave more like what happened between Nier:Automata and Stellar Blade. Stellar Blade's creation was heavily inspired by Nier:Automata, Shift Up's owner made no attempt to hide how much he idolizes Nier Automata. Did Square sue Shift Up for these similarities? No they fully embraced it and collaborated with that project including Nier Automata content into Stellar Blade and Nikke as part of this cross promotion. In the end both games and companies benefited and positive costumer good will was established.
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Yoko Taro probally loves stellar blade, otherwise he wouldn't have blessed the Nier Automata DLC.
 
Oprah Winfrey said:
That is a shameless ripoff if I've ever seen one. Right down to the logo.
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IMHO there is enough distinction between the fonts, style and line weight for each to be different. This is not a Marathon case where assets of the game were plagiarized wholesale from another creator,

Apparently Tencent approached Sony with the idea of creating an open world survival co-op game using the Horizon license but Sony said no. So Tencent said fuck it, and they made it anyway with their own spin. The gameplay has more in common with Palworld and Ark Survival Evolved than with the Horizon games.

All these recent lawsuits over video game ideas are coming from petty corpos at the top that can't stomach competition and do not understand that the culture of video games as a medium has prospered because of the free cross pollination of ideas that has allowed ideas to iterate and mature across multiple titles. When the game creators were the ones in charge, nobody cared if someone else took an idea and made a game with it, now because the bean counting corposcum are the ones in charge, they want to lock everything down ,which by all means, if games cannot borrow ideas to make their own interpretation of it, that is going to further accelerate the collapse of the industry due to stagnation.

Sony has been ripping off ideas from Nintendo for decades but suddenly another company does it and now they are whining about it?

This is not about a game being a rip-off or not, this is about another company making a product potentially better than their own.

Nintendo didn't give a flying fuck about any of the also-ran monster training clones that are on Steam because those games never reached an audience, they cared about Palworld because it succeeded beyond any expectation and Nintendo felt threatened.

Just let the market decide, costumers won't care how much of a perceived rip-off or not the game is if it turns out to be good.
 
Belvedere said:
IMHO there is enough distinction between the fonts, style and line weight for each to be different. This is not a Marathon case where assets of the game were plagiarized wholesale from another creator,
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If you look at the logo in complete isolation, sure, it's stylistically similar but distinct enough. However, that's ignoring the bigger picture where every single element of the game's appearance (except the character's faces) has been copied straight from Horizon and comes together into a product that looks like a flagrant ripoff.
At the very least you'd think they could have mixed it up by maybe doing a riff on the Final Fantasy logo instead, just to cover their tracks a little.
 
Oprah Winfrey said:
However, that's ignoring the bigger picture where every single element of the game's appearance (except the character's faces) has been copied straight from Horizon and comes together into a product that looks like a flagrant ripoff.
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While originality is appreciated, in the end what costumers care more about is quality of execution.

Lets accept that Light of Motiram is a blatant ripoff of Horizon, it makes no difference whatsoever to the end user if the execution of its gameplay mechanics are satisfactory and offers greater variety of activities and side content than Horizon. People are going to buy it and Sony can go pound sand, there is nothing they can do about it because the style and setting of the game is not something they can own or copyright. Again, this entire industry's existence relies on the iteration of ideas and in many occasions a game can be original but be terrible in execution. Only subsequent "ripoffs" can improved upon it.

"Infiniminer" was an original game about digging tunnels and mines in a procedural generated world made of cubes, the game was discontinued after a year. Along came a guy who liked the idea and made a ripoff with improved mechanics and player options, he called it "Minecraft". Go figure.

Imagine if Id Software had patented the concept of moving and shooting in a 3D space in first person back in 1991 and monopolized the idea for 15-20 years without competition. No Duke Nukem 3D, no GoldenEye, no Half-Life, no Halo.

What a sad and pathetic turn of events that would have been.
 
Sony are seething about it because their own Horizon live service is hundreds of millions in the hole and not even close to release and they're shifting the blame to this
While sony themselves have not only been taking plenty of """inspiration""" from other live service games but have been caught actually stealing assets from artists directly
like, I fucking hate to defend CHYNA but Horizon is just not a very original game and this game doesnt even play like it
 
Anachronistic2 said:
32 million copies
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I wonder what percentage of that number is from all the bundled copies that came with a console, giveaways, promotions et al. Sony was/is pushing this turd hard because it's the CEO's darling.

Vyse Inglebard said:
On the other - chinks vs Soyny.
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Yeah, but Sony is worse - they subject audiences to ugly women, homosexuals and niggers.

At least the chinks have the decency of making their propaganda appealing.
 
DoongDiing4545 said:
Sony looking to expand PlayStation Studios titles to Xbox and Nintendo, according to Job Listing
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This is probably mostly for their live service games but just like Xbox it wouldn't surprise me if also started porting their other single-player games
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I doubt this means GoW or other big first party games on other systems, at least not any time soon. Likely just more GAAS stuff like what happened with Helldivers 2 and games where they license an ip for such as Lego and MLB. The Marvel games are a maybe. If Marvel, when it comes time to renew the deal, says they want the games on other consoles, I don't see Sony saying no.


Could also mean expanding the deal they have with Namco to use niche ips use, such as Everyone's Golf and Patapon. Games that wouldn't make money just stuck on PlayStation and they didn't plan to do anything with anyway, but farming out to 3rd parties can give a small profit for not much work from Sony themselves.
 
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