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The switch is just the latest gloryhole portstation, whatever came out on PSP a century ago will get "remastered" unto it. The usual nintendrone consoomers will see to it that it will continue to sell gangbusters. If anything I find it nice that the paltry jp developers that are still left have a place to go to besides independent PC. It is still an overpriced and crapfully made device, compared to its predecessors.
If sony weren't chromosomally trisomic, they wouldn't have killed off their portable division and would now stand to offer a valid competitor to nintendo.
 


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The switch is just the latest gloryhole portstation, whatever came out on PSP a century ago will get "remastered" unto it.

Ngl, I would love to see some PSP exclusives in the Switch, like their FF and Megaman games. The PSP is just cursed with having great exclusives "trapped" in there because their owners dont give a fuck.

If sony weren't chromosomally trisomic, they wouldn't have killed off their portable division and would now stand to offer a valid competitor to nintendo.

Third time's the charm, am I right? The PS Vita may be more powerful but the 3DS was just the more fun console. You cant really replace fun with hardware power. The PSP still had some of its own merits but the PS VIta struggled with having any sort of identity that didnt feel like an accessory to the consoles.

Now, I could maybe see Sony trying again if they learned from their mistakes but I very much doubt they will so its best to let sleeping dogs lie.

At least the Switch was a "bold" move to see how a hybrid console would work and keep both markets reasonably satisfied and it seems to pay off for the most part.
 
Third time's the charm, am I right? The PS Vita may be more powerful but the 3DS was just the more fun console. You cant really replace fun with hardware power. The PSP still had some of its own merits but the PS VIta struggled with having any sort of identity that didnt feel like an accessory to the consoles.
Sony has never given their consoles much identity of their own. They're the only ones without a clear-cut, consistent mascot, and they've always treated PlayStation more like a general entertainment machine that happens to play video games than an actual video game system. PSVita could have been treated like the Switch before the Switch, if they had just given it easy TV out support. And then they managed to screw that up in a bigger way than any of us could have ever thought possible - the first model literally does have a TV out port, but the cable was never released, there was no support for Dualshock 3/4 controllers, and then the PS Vita TV was a total laughingstock that couldn't play a big chunk of the library... unless you hacked it. They went full, and I mean full fucking retard.

At least the Switch was a "bold" move to see how a hybrid console would work and keep both markets reasonably satisfied and it seems to pay off for the most part.
Switch is more or less the logical conclusion to game consoles. Even Sir Clive Sinclair talked about the future of personal computers being fully portable with no compromises in the future, which is what the Switch is. He talked about this in 1985.

It's a little baffling that PlayStation and Xbox have absolutely no portable version, nor even a component for playing portable games other than awful cloud streaming via your phone. Graphical quality has stagnated for ages, and in an era where even new iGPUs can max out early 8th gen games, the concept of a stationary home console is obsolete. It will be perplexing if the PlayStation 6 and/or the fifth Xbox are stationary machines. Shit, all Microsoft would need to do is chop one of their controllers in half, churn out some Surface tablets with magnets on the sides where you can attach the controllers, and whammo bammo, you've got a Switch-style Xbox. I'm sure by 2028, they'll have tablets that could run better than the Series S, and that'll be the next generation of Xbox.

Sony still has nothing. They squandered the PSVita. They barely advertised the thing, poorly supported it, and even pulled it for retail years and years before games quit being made. No joke, I thought it was dead and buried in 2015, but then I hack it and find out there were like four more years worth of games released for the thing. Quality ones, too. I just quit checking Vita's storefront, so I never heard about them, and didn't see anyone discussing them online.

I've gotta be honest here: I freakin' loved the PSP and PSVita when they were current. Still do. I liked them more than the DS & 3DS line, even. The screens were excellent, the variety of games was massive, and they just felt good to play. They even seemed to be more durable than the DS family, which was remarkable. But, while Sony did do a reasonably good job supporting the PSP, they treated the Vita almost like they were embarrassed of it. I cannot fathom why. But, like @SSj_Ness said:
I originally wanted a Vita successor but it's clear now it'd be trash, just like PS5.
I wouldn't trust a third portable PlayStation, either. Not with the direction Sony's been headed. I don't even have a clue if we'll actually see one as the PlayStation 6. The whole brand is getting laid to waste. PlayStation is currently where the Walkman was in 2004: a boomer brand with a large following that remembers when the name meant something, who are scrambling to pretend like the iPod isn't completely eviscerating the Walkman, cursing it to the annals of history. The Walkman brand still exists, and in fact, a new one just came out this month: https://archive.is/aU9GB

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The new Walkman is a low-end Android device that's designed around being a touchscreen MP3 player and costs a fortune. The article states that it starts at $818, but there's also a $3700 model. For a fuckin' Android-based MP3 player. This is the direction Sony takes their most flagship brands when they become obsolete, and this is the future of PlayStation. What a joke. What a tragic fucking joke of a company. The big three in gaming will soon be Nintendo/Microsoft/Valve, and Sony will eventually be relegated to Epic Games-tier third party support, with "prestige" PlayStation-branded PCs that'll cost an arm and a leg for aging idiots to lap up while coping with the fact that their favorite brand has a pulse on par with a penny battery.
 
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Third time's the charm, am I right? The PS Vita may be more powerful but the 3DS was just the more fun console. You cant really replace fun with hardware power. The PSP still had some of its own merits but the PS VIta struggled with having any sort of identity that didnt feel like an accessory to the consoles.
The main issue with the Playstation Vita is that it didn't have enough power to handle ports & multiplats properly. Especially once the PS3 went out of the window thus making the disparities between Vita & PS4 even more obvious. A famous example of this is Atelier Lydie & Suelle from Koei Tecmo which came out on PS4 & Vita in 2017 at the same time, then later on Switch within the same year and a DX version in 2021.

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There were a bunch of game projects that were meant to be released on Vita but dropped the platform later on, such as Kyoei Toshi (known in english as "City Shrouded in Shadow" which is a spin-off of Disaster Report featuring giant creatures from Godzilla, Evangelion, Ultraman, Gamera and Patlabor mobile suits devastating the town) and 13 Sentinels. For some reason, english websites memory-holed that Kyoei Toshi had a planned Vita release.

But it sure didn't stop japanese 3rd-party devs to develop Vita variants of their games (Gundam Breaker 3, Toukiden 2, Vanillaware titles, Catherine Fullbody, Valkyria Revolution, Bullet Girls Phantasia, etc.) or even develop exclusives (Ys 8, Tokyo Xanadu, IA/VT Colorful, Neptunia titles, Valkyrie Drive, etc.) for as long as possible in spite of the hardware strength. Even Yakuza Zero and Isshin have gotten companion apps on Playstation Vita that featured arena fights &mini-games, and it was possible to cross-save (carrying money & character upgrades) between the Vita and the japanese PS3/PS4 versions of the games.



It is why I never believed anyone saying the Nintendo Switch was holding these JP third-parties back as, in most cases, it was just a poor excuse to actually play favorites with Sony. It took a long time for companies like Falcom (which favored handhelds for a long time no less) to finally understand the situation.

At least the Switch was a "bold" move to see how a hybrid console would work and keep both markets reasonably satisfied and it seems to pay off for the most part.
It also helped Nintendo to consolidate the whole software catalog into a single console family instead of two whole different machines per generation like before.
If anything, I think the Switch has proven in its design to be TOO successful for Nintendo to make any drastic changes for the future successor.
 
Sorry, Sony ponies. There will never, ever be another PlayStation 2. :smug:
Yeah, but that goes for everyone still in the industry. There will also never be another Dreamcast, GBA, Gamecube, DS, Wii, 360 PSP or PS3 (:_(
Well, until Amico comes out :woo:
 
It also helped Nintendo to consolidate the whole software catalog into a single console family instead of two whole different machines per generation like before.
If anything, I think the Switch has proven in its design to be TOO successful for Nintendo to make any drastic changes for the future successor.

Feels like, outside of maybe a bigger screen and more hardware power, the Switch doesnt have much you can improve upon outside of obvious things (tho Im sure Im forgetting something)
 
Feels like, outside of maybe a bigger screen and more hardware power, the Switch doesnt have much you can improve upon outside of obvious things (tho Im sure Im forgetting something)
I think what the Switch needs the most is better durability (I mean, it needs more power and battery life, but those are a given). I got my Switch second hand at the end of 2017, and I haven't been rough with it at all, haven't even dropped it, but so far:

Had to replace Joycon rail locks with metal because the plastic ones sheared down and controllers kept coming off the Switch when using it handheld
Had to replace Joycon sticks like 6 times
Had to replace kickstand (I think the OLED fixes this though)
The exhaust grate plastic on the top has all cracked and fallen out (cant fix without replacing the entire front panel including screen digitizer)
Shell cracked on bottom right on the screw
Replaced body and Joycon shells because the flat 'grip' coating got worn off (I mainly use handheld, I'm not even a sweaty person)
Replaced left Joycon light + l3/r3 ribbon cable because it broke somehow

This is just what happened to my Switch, lets not forget that people had the docks scratching the plastic screen, or Switches bending from heat. Nintendo's build quality has gone down in recent years, my DS Lite from 2006 is still perfectly fine today other than just cosmetic scratches.
 
It's a little baffling that PlayStation and Xbox have absolutely no portable version, nor even a component for playing portable games other than awful cloud streaming via your phone.
because they both cater to a different market. even if they did a portable playstation or xbox, what are you gonna play on it? last of us 2? halo infinite?
and to get those to run, it would need to be HUEG, and you can bet your ass they wouldn't subsidize it like valve does for the deck. and only a fucking retard would pay $800+ to play one of their shitty exclusives or indie stuff that's already on the deck and switch on a walled garden device you can't use for anything else or a phone already does better.

the switch is called a bing bing wahoo machine for are reason, those games don't need much and first party games are what sells the nintendo hardware. remember nintendo hardware can mostly live on first party titles because that's all nintendies gush over. which is the opposite for sony and microsoft.

You can withold judgment until we get to red ring of death numbers but I don't believe Sony's production line can accurately quality control well enough to ensure liquid metal cooling is foolproof for a mass production line now in the 20+ million and counting. If you are curious find your local electronics repair place and start asking them questions. How many ps5's have come in? What's the common problem with them? Go to your local game store and ask them how often they are processing returns on ps5's. I'm seeing it weekly.
counterpoint, with 20+ million units and counting, how many apparently have issues? how much more do they sell compared to xbox that you obviously gonna hear "we get a lot of ps5 returned"?

that's why I'm hesitant to believe a OMG SONY YLOD 2.0 drama people push for clicks. granted I might be wrong since no one can predict the future (and this is californian sony we're talking about), but it was the same when everyone was creaming themselves over MUH DRIFT, and then you compare it to the amount of pads out there (most people are gonna have at least 2, if not more). in raw numbers that was always a nothingburger.

and manufacturing defects happen all the time, this doesn't mean it's a design error. some shit will break because it can (and that doesn't include roughhandling, I've worked in support, I've seen some absolute dumb shit). how much we gonna have to wait and see.
 
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I think what the Switch needs the most is better durability (I mean, it needs more power and battery life, but those are a given). I got my Switch second hand at the end of 2017, and I haven't been rough with it at all, haven't even dropped it, but so far:

Had to replace Joycon rail locks with metal because the plastic ones sheared down and controllers kept coming off the Switch when using it handheld
Had to replace Joycon sticks like 6 times
Had to replace kickstand (I think the OLED fixes this though)
The exhaust grate plastic on the top has all cracked and fallen out (cant fix without replacing the entire front panel including screen digitizer)
Shell cracked on bottom right on the screw
Replaced body and Joycon shells because the flat 'grip' coating got worn off (I mainly use handheld, I'm not even a sweaty person)
Replaced left Joycon light + l3/r3 ribbon cable because it broke somehow

Nintendo's hired former GM executives.

Now that is a novel idea.
 
the switch is called a bing bing wahoo machine for are reason, those games don't need much and first party games are what sells the nintendo hardware. remember nintendo hardware can mostly live on first party titles because that's all nintendies gush over.
While first parties are definitely the big system sellers, Nintendo still needs third parties to pad out their release schedule (since Nintendo seems to have a "when its done" mentality to game releases) and offer games in genres Nintendo doesn't operate in (like licensed sports titles, FPS games, fighting games, and racing simulators). Its why Nintendo has spend the last two generations really trying to upsell their third party support, because they know the Gamecube lacked it (especially towards the end of its life) and that effected its overall sales and perception, as did the N64. More third parties, just means more games, which also means more sales.
 
I would argue against Sony being a Boomer brand. I see Sony in the same league as Twitter, a brand that used to be a major player in the tech space, but is now hated by anyone with any knowledge of a computer or the internet, but it survives as Normies will inhabit it till the end of time. PlayStation is still considered a young people brand because it caters to 2K, COD bros. The people who play PlayStation hate real games as they are all weeb/nerd/kid shit. They don’t even know or care for the Sony exclusives past Spider-Man, hence why Sony stopped having any. Sony will make profit off these dipshits forking over $500 a month to a fucking b-ball game.
 
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I remember during the 360 era, Sonyggers chimped out real hard when Devil May Cry 4 was announced to be multi-platform. There was some kind of petition or thread where they all wrote about how they felt "betrayed" and "left out", as if Capcom owed them something. It was one of the most immature things I had seen during those Console Wars that I still remember how pathetic it was even now.
I don't remember that with DMC4 at all, only remember the FF13 chimp out and a smaller Tekken 6 one.
 
Serious question, why do people even want a PS5 anyway? If you ask someone why they’d want a Switch, they’ll start naming off first party games they care about. Xbox fans will talk about Game Pass, enhanced backwards compatibility, and maybe messing around with emulators. PC fans will talk about power (and in a handheld format in the case of the Steam Deck), games that work best with a KB+M, and customization/mods. The only argument for a PS5 I’ve ever heard - when someone even attempts to explain it at all - is “it’s the new Playstation”. The same thing happened with PS4, but it’s even worse now that all of their competition has improved significantly since 2013.
At this point I think it's just brand loyalty, the Playstation was the console back in the 90's and early 2000's, where the PS1 basically blew the N64 out of the water due to the use of CD's and not cartridges which allowed for even bigger games, and then the PS2 was an absolute bargain, as you had a very capable gaming system and a DVD player for your home theatre, not to mention the abundance of titles on it, and the fact that the very first Xbox wasn't a big success, but it did help Microsoft put their foot in the door and establish their market share with the Xbox 360 in the next generation. Also the Japs are very loyal to their own brands so you might see more PS5 sales than XSX sales there.

And finally you can talk about Sony's gimmicks like the DualSense with the built-in speaker, lights, touchpad, triggers with varying resistance, but I don't think game devs even bother to use those since they release their games on more consoles than just Sony.



@Pissmaster And as for the Walkman thing, there is a market for those Android based music players, except you have to understand that people who buy those don't care for it to be super powerful to play all the Android games and beat AnTuTu benchmarks, all they care is that it works, it has large storage space, it has long battery life, and most importantly, it has capable audio hardware.

That's the whole point people buy those, they want good sound hardware and a dedicated music player for just their music library. For example, FiiO offers a lot of devices like that, where the FiiO M17 costs more than twice that Sony Walkman, but you gotta understand it's for people who have the money to spend, and who have headphones that require this kind of power.

Sony actually has some competition in that market, so if they fail to make their DAP as good or even better as the other DAP's in the same price range, then they won't really succeed, but at the same time, Sony seems to have this attitude where they are willing to throw money at products that don't make them the big bucks just because they can. For example their Xperia smartphones. They have their niche because of the way they're designed, and they don't make big profits on those, but they still make them, because they can.
 
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