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Vyse Inglebard said:
Today marks 25 years since the PS2 hit the scene. What were your favorite PS2 games? Any fond/memorable experiences with the console?
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We Love Katamari
Ratchet: Deadlocked
Sly Cooper 2 & 3
Ape Escape 2 & 3
Shadow of the Colossus
Jak and Daxter
Crash Twinsanity
Soul Reaver 2
Legacy of Kain: Defiance
Vexx
Asterix & Obelix XXL

One of my fondest memories of the PS2:
The day I beat Shadow of the Colossus was the day I graduated high school. I always struggled in school, and there were plenty of times I didn't think I was going to pass on the the next grade, so when the day came that I was finally ready to graduate I was ecstatic. Beating the final colossus and watching the credits roll less than an hour before I had to leave for my graduation ceremony made beating the game all the sweeter.

Broseph said:
Xbox was still the gloried Halo box. I had all three consoles back then and most of the friends I had back then only had a PS2 so whenever they came over they always wanted to play Halo, no one ever wanted to play Ninja Gaiden or Project Gotham Racing.

My point still stands that Xbox would have flopped if it didn't have Halo.
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Waifu Denier said:
Halo was the big draw but I remember one thing keeping people there being the WRPGs which were only ported to the Xbox, like Morrowind, KOTOR, Jade Empire, etc. Even into the 360, the PS3 got a number of delays on ports, like Oblivion being ported 1 year later.
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While I eventually played and enjoyed Halo, the games that motivated me to get my Xbox were Voodoo Vince (I grew up with an N64 and love collectathon platformers) and Destroy All Humans (I really liked the idea of a game where you were the alien attacking the earth). Those two games, along with Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath and Psychonauts are my favorite games on the system.

Mississippi Motorboater said:
Otogi 1 & 2
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I keep forgetting about those games. Never played the first, but I got the second one when I was in college. Didn't get too far into it, but I enjoyed what I played. It was an interesting game, one of the reasons why I liked the Gamecube/PS2/Original Xbox era so much was that developers seemed more willing to experiment with unique game ideas.

Baraka Obama said:
You can just like all 3 early 2000s consoles. They're all way better than current consoles.
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That generation was the best.
 
Baraka Obama said:
You can just like all 3 early 2000s consoles. They're all way better than current consoles.
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I like all four (I include Dreamcast, even though it bit the bucket early). I own all four.

But on a technical level, PS2 was last place when it came to multiplats--which is an essential factor to consider, when the multiplats were so strong in that generation. No one wants to play slower, fuzzier, uglier versions saddled with longer load times when revisiting games like Vice City, Splinter Cell, Star Wars Battlefront, all the Marvel titles from that era, the James Bond games, etc. Fuck, some games even got deluxe director's cuts that were exclusive to Xbox. Genma Onimusha and the first two Fatal Frame games come to mind, to the point where the latter two are hideously rare and expensive now.

Of course, all this debate boils down to are what are the best or worst ways to play really good games of a superior generation.

A discourse that doesn't happen now, where the only discussion is which soulless plastic box is technically the best way to play current-gen AAA midtacular slop.
 
Mississippi Motorboater said:
But on a technical level, PS2 was last place when it came to multiplats--which is an essential factor to consider, when the multiplats were so strong in that generation. No one wants to play slower, fuzzier, uglier versions saddled with longer load times when revisiting games like Vice City, Splinter Cell, Star Wars Battlefront, all the Marvel titles from that era, the James Bond games, etc. Fuck, some games even got deluxe director's cuts that were exclusive to Xbox. Genma Onimusha and the first two Fatal Frame games come to mind, to the point where the latter two are hideously rare and expensive now.
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You'd think but Vice City looks and plays better on a PS2.

You have to remember the financial incentives for PS2 releases were a lot more promising and it ended up being the main target through most of the generation. Even the 007 games some effects just look a lot better on PS2, I would tend to play them on Xbox but wouldn't mind the PS2 versions. Onimusha I wouldn't bother with anything but the original PS2 versions, same with the Fatal Frame games without getting into really poor port jobs like Metal Gear Solid 2 or Silent Hill 2.
 
Goddamn Sandniggers.

Got an email from Sony, my PlayStation account had been accessed from Iraq. Less than a minute later, I get notifications that 2FV has been disabled, and both the login email and my password have been changed. Thankfully I saw the emails in time to lock the card that I had linked to that account, but whats the fucking point of all these hoops for security if someone in a third world shithole can just walk right through 'em?

Sony Support is completely useless - tried phoning them, it just directs you to their website. Which requires you to log in to your account to be able to recover your account, and I think we can see the problem here.

So guess I have an overpriced paperweight now. Eh, was looking for an excuse to finally get around to building a PC, but now I'm just MATI and needed to rant...
 
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
Goddamn Sandniggers.

Got an email from Sony, my PlayStation account had been accessed from Iraq. Less than a minute later, I get notifications that 2FV has been disabled, and both the login email and my password have been changed. Thankfully I saw the emails in time to lock the card that I had linked to that account, but whats the fucking point of all these hoops for security if someone in a third world shithole can just walk right through 'em?

Sony Support is completely useless - tried phoning them, it just directs you to their website. Which requires you to log in to your account to be able to recover your account, and I think we can see the problem here.

So guess I have an overpriced paperweight now. Eh, was looking for an excuse to finally get around to building a PC, but now I'm just MATI and needed to rant...
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the sandnigger was doing you a favor
 
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
Goddamn Sandniggers.

Got an email from Sony, my PlayStation account had been accessed from Iraq. Less than a minute later, I get notifications that 2FV has been disabled, and both the login email and my password have been changed. Thankfully I saw the emails in time to lock the card that I had linked to that account, but whats the fucking point of all these hoops for security if someone in a third world shithole can just walk right through 'em?

Sony Support is completely useless - tried phoning them, it just directs you to their website. Which requires you to log in to your account to be able to recover your account, and I think we can see the problem here.

So guess I have an overpriced paperweight now. Eh, was looking for an excuse to finally get around to building a PC, but now I'm just MATI and needed to rant...
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It's weird. I've never had issues with people trying to access my account. On either Xbox or Playstation. Or even Steam for that matter. I've known a lot of folks close to me who've had their shit hacked, but it's always avoided me. My neighbor had his Xbox account hacked not too long ago, but somehow I've managed to avoid it. I honestly don't know how these people choose their targets. My only issue is trying to remember three different login passwords trying to make them each different enough from each other to where there won't be an issue.
 
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
Honestly, it DOES mean the only thing stopping me from committing to a PC now is just space, and that I can... probably work around.
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Sell the playstation, replace it with a PC+VPN, sail the high seas for free games that would have been free on PSN. You're not doing anything wrong, really, seems as you're the victim.
 
Pepe Cortisona said:
Dreamcast left out yet again.
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It's more of a 5th gen console in my opinion. Not even just because of the release date but because Sega was forced to do a mid-generation reset after fumbling the ball so hard with the design and marketing of the Saturn (along with engaging in the most autsitic intra-company war that wasted resources on shit like the Sega CD, Sega 32X and other shit that should've gone to the Saturn and Saturn alone).


Plus, most of it did get a bit of multiplats shared with the N64 and PSX, but almost none with the PS2, Xbox or Gamecube.
 
Baraka Obama said:
Halo was frequently called Gaylo while every PS exclusive FPS was somehow a "Halo Killer", PSP fans acted like touch was a terrible idea.
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I remember Sony fanboys talking shit about Halo in particular, but Sony didn't have any killer apps around that time for a few years. I know that the common talking points from Sony fanboys then were about paying for Xbox Live, Blu-Ray being the future, having to buy additional accessories that the PS3 had out of the box (hard drive, free online play, rechargeable controllers, DVD playback.)

It's been so long, I cannot remember those console wars.

Incecticyder said:
A console's success is partly determined by how good it is but mostly by how badly the competition will mismanage their consoles (regardless by how good THEY are). The only exception so far was in the PS2/NGC/XBOX era. It was the one time when both were equally important.
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I disagree. Sony had the advantage of DVD playback out of the box (MS needed a remote to circumvent some licensing issues with DVDs? GameCube opted for their own priority media for combating piracy.) This was at a time where DVDs were thriving in the media market. The high install base from the PlayStation cemented Sony as the market leader. GameCube undersold because of that optical drive; Xbox was new and banked on hardware and Xbox Live but could not convince the Japanese market due to cultural differences. People were hesitant to develop for the Xbox at the time because of the unconventional (at the time) hardware.
 
The Last Stand said:
I disagree. Sony had the advantage of DVD playback out of the box (MS needed a remote to circumvent some licensing issues with DVDs? GameCube opted for their own priority media for combating piracy.) This was at a time where DVDs were thriving in the media market. The high install base from the PlayStation cemented Sony as the market leader. GameCube undersold because of that optical drive; Xbox was new and banked on hardware and Xbox Live but could not convince the Japanese market due to cultural differences. People were hesitant to develop for the Xbox at the time because of the unconventional (at the time) hardware.
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I do not see how what you said disagrees with my statement. If anything, you said that the PS2 being a DVD player and having great 3rd party support was as important as GameCube having stupid anti-piracy features and the XBox fucking things up with Japan, which is what I said.
 
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