Sony hate thread

[Belvedere]

According to one of the streamers that was recently visiting the devs, they said the devs have planned for it to run at 30 FPS and 1080p. It's probably going to turn into an IED when both teams' Doctor Strange open a portal in the same area.

I'm now looking forward to the September 12 release of this version by virtue of satisfying the morbid curiosity of seeing the bottom-of-the-barrel performance metrics of this thing.

Portals, deployables, destructible environments and all manner of combat, weapon and skill interactions as 12 players run around shooting at each other on a game using UE5.

Now imagine all of this crammed on a system with only 8GB of unified system memory.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

What a colossal fucking shitshow this entire console generation has been.

You know what's way more depressing? If the last quarter century is any guide, it'll never be this good again.

 

[FlyHoneyPudding]

I'm now looking forward to the September 12 release of this version by virtue of satisfying the morbid curiosity of seeing the bottom-of-the-barrel performance metrics of this thing.

Portals, deployables, destructible environments and all manner of combat, weapon and skill interactions as 12 players run around shooting at each other on a game using UE5.

Now imagine all of this crammed on a system with only 8GB of unified system memory.

You forgot the 100GB patches whose patch notes say "Tomorrow is Thursday so we decided to buff Luna Snow."

 

[Duane Dibbley]

At the rate things are going for them, Sony may as well give up making PS5s entirely and restart PS4 manufacturing going all in on trying to squeeze that lemon for all it's worth, which is to say the absolute husk of the modern playstation brand because all the games that could have given people reason to buy it arn't exclusive to it anymore (if they even were with the ps4 crossgen) and doesn't even have anything good to offer now in term of it's hardware or the OS that's more limited than the PS4's.

PS4 'retro' Console for £249 with an SSD would sell pretty well.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

PS4 'retro' Console for £249 with an SSD would sell pretty well.

i dont expect that for another 30 years. and more likely is nintendo releasing a retro wii console before then

 

[Duane Dibbley]

i dont expect that for another 30 years. and more likely is nintendo releasing a retro wii console before then

Sony remaster 5 year old games. I'm sure they can warm up the production lines and throw out some retro PS4 consoles. They are desperate for money and if the retro console was a PS4PRO+ as a 1080p counterpart to the PS5, they would outsell the PS5.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

I'm sure they can warm up the production lines and throw out some retro PS4 consoles.

Retro consoles are just a generic SoC in a little injection molded box running an emulator. To actually start producing PS4 hardware would be far more expensive and involved.

 

[Markorian]

Sony is such a cucked cuckpany, can't wait to play as Kat, Astro Bot, and Sackboy among others in Smash Utlimate Deluxe!

Nah, the ultimate (heh) cucking would be Sony begging to get a character in smash and instead being given mii costumes for them instead.

 

[Hyper Vigilant Dumbass]

Nah, the ultimate (heh) cucking would be Sony begging to get a character in smash and instead being given mii costumes for them instead.

Heihachi is a Mii costume in smash, but you can argue that he isn't Sony.

 

[Belvedere]

PS4 'retro' Console for £249 with an SSD would sell pretty well.

Retro consoles are just a generic SoC in a little injection molded box running an emulator. To actually start producing PS4 hardware would be far more expensive and involved.

I don't trust Sony creating any retro console. They fucked up the PlayStation Classic delivering a system with a chip that couldn't run emulation accurately, no disc drive and no dual analogue controller. Even with the massive nostalgia there is for the PlayStation 2, they have shown no interest to create a PS2 Classic to this day and I suspect the reason why.

There is a massive issue regarding launching anything like a revival PS2, PS3 or PS4: people would expect to have the option to insert their own game discs and play them as they used to in the original hardware, but the manufacture of optical drives has ceased. Sony closed their own optical drive factories last year and LG being the last hold-out stopped this year.

Nobody is making disc drives of any kind anymore, optical media is officially deprecated technology.

Sony could not build a PS4 even if they wanted to, the unavoidable conclusion is that the PS6, both console and handheld, are going to be digital-only.

Unless they offer some sort of proprietary key-card media like Nintendo does, but I highly doubt it.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

Even with the massive nostalgia there is for the PlayStation 2, they have shown no interest to create a PS2 Classic to this day and I suspect the reason why.

Certain high-profile PS2 games also still run like dogshit, even on high-end PCs. A PS2 classic that can't run the Sly Cooper or (last I checked) Jak and Daxter games properly would really sour the whole thing.

 

[broners]

the manufacture of optical drives has ceased. Sony closed their own optical drive factories last year and LG being the last hold-out stopped this year.

Nobody is making disc drives of any kind anymore, optical media is officially deprecated technology.

This is obviously untrue as PS5, XSX and UHD Blu-ray players with optical drives are still being mass produced.
The rumor that LG stopped manufacturing optical drives for PCs comes from someone asking LG's customer support AI chatbot if they were discontinuing their PC drives, and the AI saying "it's safe to assume" they did.
Please do not repeat things of this significance without fact checking.

Likewise, the plant Sony closed last year was for BD-R recordable discs and has no bearing on them making pressed discs or disc drives. Sony ceased manufacturing PC optical drives not quite last year, but in 2012. Again, stop repeating retarded shit.

 

[The Last Stand]

Sony remaster 5 year old games. I'm sure they can warm up the production lines and throw out some retro PS4 consoles. They are desperate for money and if the retro console was a PS4PRO+ as a 1080p counterpart to the PS5, they would outsell the PS5.

Call it the PS4 Classic and up charge on remasters.

 

[moocow]

PSN is still fucking down.

Time to start reporting all your credit/debit cards as "compromised" again, PSN users! Standard procedure by now, of course...

 

[Problematic User Forever]

Sony remaster 5 year old games. I'm sure they can warm up the production lines and throw out some retro PS4 consoles. They are desperate for money and if the retro console was a PS4PRO+ as a 1080p counterpart to the PS5, they would outsell the PS5.

Sony fanboys would suddenly stop complaining that the Series S is holding them back, wouldn't they?

 

[Super Hans v2]

Time to start reporting all your credit/debit cards as "compromised" again, PSN users! Standard procedure by now, of course...

Isn't it Sony's blanket policy to lock an account that has a chargeback? Which, big fucking deal for future purchases of a whole bunch of nothing, but I'd be beyond pissed if I lost access to 20 years of purchases.

 

[moocow]

Isn't it Sony's blanket policy to lock an account that has a chargeback? Which, big fucking deal for future purchases of a whole bunch of nothing, but I'd be beyond pissed if I lost access to 20 years of purchases.

It'd be really dumb for them to do that, but it's Sony so I wouldn't really be surprised. I think Valve used to do that as well; not sure if they still do though. Even the scummiest of vendors usually know better -- if word gets out that you blanket-ban anyone who ever dares do a chargeback, it comes across as very suspicious and untrustworthy. Chargebacks aren't guaranteed or even always automated -- banks can and do manually review them sometimes and will even pester the vendor to see WTF is happening, so they're not an automatic "I win" easy-mode cheat for consumers to avoid paying for things. "Firing" customers in retaliation isn't the best look. I wouldn't be surprised if the payment processors actually warn vendors not to do it.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Isn't it Sony's blanket policy to lock an account that has a chargeback? Which, big fucking deal for future purchases of a whole bunch of nothing, but I'd be beyond pissed if I lost access to 20 years of purchases.

It'd be really dumb for them to do that, but it's Sony so I wouldn't really be surprised. I think Valve used to do that as well; not sure if they still do though. Even the scummiest of vendors usually know better -- if word gets out that you blanket-ban anyone who ever dares do a chargeback, it comes across as very suspicious and untrustworthy. Chargebacks aren't guaranteed or even always automated -- banks can and do manually review them sometimes and will even pester the vendor to see WTF is happening, so they're not an automatic "I win" easy-mode cheat for consumers to avoid paying for things. "Firing" customers in retaliation isn't the best look. I wouldn't be surprised if the payment processors actually warn vendors not to do it.

Most game storefronts lock your account when you do a chargeback, I think. I know that Blizzard specifically states when you make purchases that if perform a chargeback, your entire Battle.Net account will be locked until the money deficit is rectified.

 

[moocow]

Most game storefronts lock your account when you do a chargeback, I think. I know that Blizzard specifically states when you make purchases that if perform a chargeback, your entire Battle.Net account will be locked until the money deficit is rectified.

Just another reason to avoid doing business with those pricks then.

 

[Chuck 'n Geck]

They fucked up the PlayStation Classic delivering a system with a chip that couldn't run emulation accurately

It's worse. It's so much worse. It's effectively a Linux SBC that, out of the box, is not much more powerful compared to a Raspberry Pi Zero. The original one, not Zero 2.

It literally runs PCSX-ReARMed under the hood, the shitty and stale one, with practically no modifications (as far as I can tell). You can make or buy yourself a RPi0 handheld, get PCSX up and running, with some config adjustment, and enjoy a... similar level of performance. Performance so below mid you WOULD wanna consider getting PAL versions instead of the proper ones.

I'm still gonna call it an SBC, because on top of being an abject failure, Kusony's one mini retro console also became the most redeemed one: the moment it got taken out of Kusony's hands, not only did people manage to make it run more games, and run them better, there was also a slew of very unauthorised USB sticks that allowed you to play a few dozen more games, all untested. Basically like downloading a rompack off of some stanky Brazilian website - except on physical. True Blue Mini, if anyone's interested.

I feel like complaining about it not having a disc drive is a moot point because... lol mini konsul with no cee d

Nobody is making disc drives of any kind anymore, optical media is officially deprecated technology.

Verbatim called, they wanted you to stop the cap.