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You should take any leak with a fatal heap of salt, treat it as entertainment, or a jumping off point to speculate/debate.Personally I'm taking everything spec-wise about the PS6 with a massive grain of salt. We've heard like four or five conflicting leaks about this thing and it's not even slated to be out until 2027/2028. A lot of it reminds me of the hype we heard in the PS5 and Series X leaks about them being able to humble high-end gaming PCs but immediately being shat upon by budget Ampere cards.
On a product-development level, I think Sony needs absolute rock-solid guarantees from AMD that they'll be able to make an APU with those specs cheaply. MLID can point at the size of the die all day and speculate, "well it should be quite cheap to make" but that has never turned out to be the case over the last 5 or 6 years. And the price of hardware is what's really hampering adoption right now - if the PS5 was $300, every male in America under the age of 50 would have one.
Also I've become increasingly suspicious that the 'leakers' MLID is in contact with are actually just stealth marketing guys who realize that they have a captive hypebeast that they can turn loose without having to actually be accountable for the talking points they're handing out.
As far as the die in the PS6 goes, it looks like a typical size. According to TPU, PS5 (Oberon) is 308mm^2 on TSMC N7, the "Slim" revision (Oberon Plus) on TSMC N6 is 260mm^2, and PS5 Pro (Viola) is 279mm^2 on TSMC N4. TSMC's N3 will not be a leading edge node anymore by 2027, and will probably be a long-lasting "budget" node (relatively speaking) as TSMC's last use of FinFETs.
The possible disabling of a CPU core and 2 CUs (1 WGP) would improve yields. It's possible that the use of Zen 6c cores improves yields, not only because they are smaller, but because they have considerably lower clock speed targets. I guess that's no different than limiting the Zen 2 cores in PS5 though.
If you believe the Xbox leaks, the next Xbox will not use a monolithic APU, but share a GPU chiplet with other AMD products, leading to some obvious supply/demand benefits for both companies.
The price point of the PS6 will undoubtedly move towards $600. MLID has been talking about a cheaper version of the PS6 using the smaller APU found in the handheld. That would be Sony's way to approach a $300 price point, and developers will probably not care as long as it can do in 1080p what the big one can do in 4K, and it doesn't remove too much memory like the Xbox Series S did. I don't know if that's a leak or merely speculation, so whatever.
MLID will deflect criticism of his PS6 leaks by pointing to the Sony takedown of his (proven correct) major PS5 Pro leak video. He has already done that at the end of the pinned comment.
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