Sony hate thread

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If you were an investor, you have a (short term) financial interest to not ask questions, even if you know you're being bullshitted by sony. Asking questions could lead to number go down.
No, you ask the question and sue the motherfuckers for securities fraud when they fail to give satisfactory answers. This current practice of "playing coy" with sales numbers on earnings statements and during earnings calls is borderline fraudulent IMHO, and it's long since time these faggots got dragged into court to decide once and for all whether they can just straight up lie to investors (or refuse to even answer their questions at all) or might actually have to -- as publishers -- publish fucking sales numbers (their chief business is selling things but they can't/won't disclose how much they're selling ... how does that make sense to fucking anybody?).
 
I got my PS5 for like 380ish dollarydoos. Once the hit the $1000 range I'll sell it and upgrade my PC.
>buying a PS5 to play games
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>buying a PS5 as an investment
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Sony having their games not come to pc would be a good move to sell consoles....if said games were actually good. They have been on a bad streak and none of their current exclusives entice me to get their console.

You guys think sony will up their game following their games becoming exclusives? Or will they revert the decision 2 years in because low sales or something?
 
You guys think sony will up their game following their games becoming exclusives? Or will they revert the decision 2 years in because low sales or something?
The console market is evolving and neither Sony nor Microsoft know which direction it is going to take. When you turn on a console, you have to wait 30 minutes now for everything to update. Unless you play it everyday it becomes a pain in the ass to use. I use my PC everyday, so it's not a problem. Nothing is getting me to use a console everyday, unless it becomes the Netflix box. But TVs can also play Netflix. So what role does a console play in the day to day?

This is the question Sony and Microsoft need to answer.
 
When you turn on a console, you have to wait 30 minutes now for everything to update.
I still have no fucking clue how they've managed to make system updates so slow. You could potentially argue most of that is download time, but it isn't. Even when the downloads are finished, applying the system update always seems to take 15-20 minutes, and I can't figure out what they could possibly be doing that takes so long.

It can't be massive binary delta patching, since the OS isn't that big and typically OS-level patches (Windows, Linux, and MacOS all do it this way) just involve plopping new files down on top of old ones instead of patching. Even if you're taking a complete filesystem snapshot pre-patch to allow for a rollback in case SHTF, that can't possibly take more than a second or two (if you're competent and using real snapshots), or a couple of minutes (if you're not, and you're just going "lol imma make a tarball!"). Extracting even a one-gigabyte update (rare) should be near-instantaneous on this kind of hardware, too. 'member how they made a huge fuss about how fast the PS5's storage subsystem is? Like, "world-first" I/O performance in consumer-grade gear? What happened to that?

There can't possibly be enough post-extraction commands or scripts to execute to justify a ten minute wait either. Individually verifying SHA hashes on every single fucking file should be similarly near-instant with the CPU and storage system on the PS5. What kind of post-extraction "housekeeping" would you need to do, anyway? Are they effectively doing a full OS reinstall with every update or something? De-registering and uninstalling old packages and installing new ones to replace them, piece-by-piece, at such a granular scale that maybe they're running the equivalent of two hundred separate "dpkg remove foo && dpkg install foo" commands for each OS patch?

Part of me genuinely wonders if they're not just fucking with their customers. The patch downloads instantly but the progress bar fakes slowness just for shits & grins because it can. The patches apply near-instantly but they just make players sit and wait, just because "fuck you that's why."

Not even modern Windows 11 Jeet Edition™ has this kind of performance problem with updates. Besides the comical fuckups of "accidentally deleting all user accounts' data across the entire system volume" caliber (yes, that happened), even Windows manages to do a decent job with updates these days, downloading in the background, staging files in advance prior to reboot, doing as much as possible beforehand, then applying patches on the next reboot (likely triggering a second reboot to finish it because lol it's fuckin' Windows, when doesn't it need a reboot?), then running cleanup scripts and finalizing, then it's done. Even big updates only take a couple minutes to apply now.

WTF, Sony? How are you making Microsoft of all people look competent?
 
You guys think sony will up their game following their games becoming exclusives? Or will they revert the decision 2 years in because low sales or something?
Yes and no because multiple things can be true at the same time. They will try to use their meager lineup of exclusives to draw in new people into their ecosystem. But the real money is PS+ and MTX. And since most of the moneymakers are multiplatform regardless ( CoD, FiFa, Fortnite etc.) they don't really need to invest heavily into exclusive beyond anything that just exists to funnel people into PlayStation. A couple of years down the line they will try PC again, it's just too much money going around so some executives/shareholders will force Sony to get back into the PC market.

The only thing that would disrupt any of that and the market in general would be a total collapse of any and all MP titles that revolve around MTX. Only then would Sony (and Microsoft if XBOX is still alive down the line) be forced to restructure everything to churn out "quality" SP games.
 
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You guys think sony will up their game following their games becoming exclusives? Or will they revert the decision 2 years in because low sales or something?
Sony killed the JP studios and has run out every single non-Cali studio. They will not fix the problem because they fundamentally don't understand that a problem exists in the first place.

If they were smart, they'd track down the guy who produced Legend of Dragoon and have him put together another studio dedicated to just making AA RPGs because those seem to be having a bit of renaissance right now. Surely he'll be totally open to working with Sony...

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Honestly the more news comes out from Sony and Playstation, the more I thank fuck I bought a PC when I did. Is it a prebuilt, yes, but between price spikes of RAM and how most of what's coming out largely doesn't appeal to me anymore, I'll be content surviving off my Steam backlog, nevermind proper emulation...
I’m in the same boat as you. I’ve been moving more and more toward PC gaming since the PS3 era after playing on console exclusively since ‘88; at first it was just to be able to mod stuff to work better or get a decent version at release but since I digitized all my media and needed to learn enough to built and operate an NAS, that gave me enough experience and knowledge to put together a system for the household, and just like you said, now we can subsist for years on backlogs and emus.

It is, legitimately, part of the household’s collective retirement plan. We can watch, read, listen to and play anything we want on any screen and I don’t play the kinds of games that typically are console exclusives (which are what, basically only action titles now, anyway). I know I’m late but $900 is over half what I paid for the box I have now and for the 5P to ship with no drive and no stand (lmao) is absurd
 
at first it was just to be able to mod stuff to work better or get a decent version at release but since I digitized all my media and needed to learn enough to built and operate an NAS, that gave me enough experience and knowledge to put together a system for the household, and just like you said, now we can subsist for years on backlogs and emus.
I just got into PC gaming simply because you could mod games on PC, and I saw games that I could get on PC that at the time I couldn't really get on PC or couldn't enjoy the full experience.
 
What game was this again?
this game released a year into the PS5's life, nobody cared, and it died today?, does this mean it now counts as a Concord prequel?
This wasn't just any flop, this was the game that sony used to debut the new $70 price standard. A barebones, live service, microtransaction-purchasing sim.
 
This wasn't just any flop, this was the game that sony used to debut the new $70 price standard. A barebones, live service, microtransaction-purchasing sim.
Wait, so the reason why we're stuck with new $70 games is becasuse Sony tried to hedge thier bets with a shitty live service game and the rest of the industry thought it would be a spectacular idea? What a horrid indicator of how much influence Sony had at the time.
 
was that really the best pic they had for the game?
Unfortunately, yes.
Wait, so the reason why we're stuck with new $70 games is becasuse Sony tried to hedge thier bets with a shitty live service game and the rest of the industry thought it would be a spectacular idea? What a horrid indicator of how much influence Sony had at the time.
I don't think it was even the first, everything they put out was $70, and they clearly coordinated this with 3rd parties as well. It was just what they showed off to announce the change.
 
So, the game lasted five years with little fanfare. So forgotten, Sony did not bother to give advance notice for its server closure. Even Concord had advance notice, however short that was.

If you buy a live service or multiplayer game from Sony, you’re wasting money. Sony games don’t last forever.
See, I've heard from others that the servers have been down for a while now, I think people might only have noticed now that it's delisted.
 
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