Unequivocally the worst scene in the series. It’s like a litmus test for whether someone has any taste at all.
I love The Shield but it’s a bad example for that; it’s like a comic book. Of course they don’t have lawyers that would get in the way of Vic slamming their head into a desk.
i mean ive seen plenty of police interviews where that exactly happens never underestimate how stupid people are
haha there is a dedicated "the wire" thread and now you look like a moron
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Thanks, will delete it now.haha there is a dedicated "the wire" thread and now you look like a moron
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she's one of the best actresses in the show for sure
Early Tone: "Remember the good times."
We was so fucking petty on that episode, holy shit
He learned that the life before his time was overrated by then and dudnt wanna hear any stories from Paulie anymore. Fran also made him finally kill off any love he may have had still for his dad too, but I think he always hated him. Much in the way of Christopher just wanting a legitimate father figure and not a mafia coach.
wrong thread u wanna post that in the seasme street one bro
One of the most disturbing moments for Tony is when Christopher says that his own father was nothing more than a junkie. And not some hero from the greatest generation. Makes him reevaluate his own father on the spot and instantly realize his father was probably even worse. You can see that Tony also knows that Christopher no longer romanticizes the mob. And he figures that Christopher is no longer trustworthy.
It's interesting listening to him in the first episode talking about how he feels like he was born in the wrong era. The heyday for the mafia was the 50s to the 70s, now things are slipping away under his watch. But slowly but surely, he starts to learn how much Hollywood, the old guys, and nostalgia have lied to him. In a different show, it might have led to him trying to redeem himself once he learned he was admiring a false narrative. Instead, here he just dove into the life even further.
Was it overrated? The show coincided with the death of traditional organized crime, due to cellphones, patriot act and corporations making it infeasible.
Based on what Tony said about his dad, his flashbacks, and the movie, I'd say Johnny Boy wasn't a good father at all. And considering that he was in prison at least once, and Livia being like she was. he had nothing like an emotional support system beyond Junior and Dickie which isn't all that much either.
Tony mentioned at least once that belt beatings were a common thing and Johnny made Tony lie to Livia about where they were when she had her miscarriage. He was definitely a bad father and Tony's descent into nihilism happened in part due to realizing all the things he believed in and looked up were either completely over and dead or farcical to begin with - his image of father as a model man easily slotting into both.
