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Sorry, Taylor Swift – friendships that cross political lines never work​

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Taylor Swift’s most divisive move yet? Hugging a rumoured Republican. Over the weekend, the singer was photographed embracing her pal Brittany Mahomes, who’s thought to be a Trump supporter. Cue the eternal question: is it possible to be friends with someone on the opposite side of the political spectrum? Is it even ethical? And can such a friendship ever have real staying power?

Mahomes, in case you’re not up to date with the intricacies of Swift’s sprawling friendship group, is the wife of Patrick Mahomes, who plays American football for the Kansas City Chiefs alongside the singer’s boyfriend, Travis Kelce. She was spotted attending various matches alongside Swift during the last football season, and even flew out to Amsterdam to enjoy one of her gigs; the singer shared photos of the two couples’ Euro trip slash extended double date.

But last month, Mahomes was met with backlash when she liked an Instagram post shared by Donald Trump, in which the former president laid out the Republican party’s 2024 election platform (policies included “keep men OUT of women’s sports” in reference to the transgender debate, and “cut federal funding for any school pushing Critical Race Theory, Radical Gender Ideology, and other inappropriate racial, sexual or political content on our children”). She later unliked the post, and then shared a message on Instagram that seemed to indirectly allude to the controversy, writing: “To be a hater as an adult, you have to have some deep rooted issues you refuse to heal from childhood. There’s no reason your brain is fully developed and you hate to see others doing well.” Never one to shy away from celeb-adjacent drama, Trump then waded in to thank “beautiful Brittany Mahomes” for “so strongly defending me” in a message posted on his Truth Social platform. “It is nice to see someone who loves our Country, and wants to save it from DOOM,” he added in signature understated style.

Swift’s politics, or what she doesn’t say about her politics, are always a hot topic, and never more so than in the run-up to the 2024 presidential election. She previously shared her regrets about staying quiet during election season in 2016, when Trump eventually beat Hillary Clinton, and in 2019 she accused the then-president of “gaslighting the American public”. Her 2020 documentary Miss Americana also spotlighted her political awakening, and later that year she endorsed future president Joe Biden. There’s currently much speculation as to whether Swift will lend her support to Kamala Harris’s campaign for the White House, and what impact a possible endorsement could have.

When Swift and Mahomes were spotted in different suites at a Chiefs game last week, it prompted whispers that the singer might have decided to distance herself from her pal over her purported political views. But then the two couples were photographed at the US Open men’s final, with Swift embracing Mahomes (Tay ’n’ Trav were also videoed enthusiastically singing along to “I Believe in a Thing Called Love” by The Darkness, which is a whole other issue).

Despite this show of affection, though, I’d predict that this friendship is just as doomed as the romances Swift wrote about on The Tortured Poets Department. Why? It’s not just because their platonic PDA has already prompted criticism on social media – Swift is a star who is always conscious of her public perception – as this is a problem that can affect you whether you’re a billionaire pop star or an average civilian rolling your eyes at questionable Facebook posts shared by someone you went to school with. A friendship that spans political divides is one that’s built on shaky foundations; it’s liable to collapse at any moment. Countless people will have learned this the hard way in the wake of the Brexit referendum in the UK or the 2016 election in the US.

When we make friends as adults, we tend to be drawn to people who share our values. That’s not to say that you can’t get on well with someone who has, for example, mildly divergent views on how much council tax we should all pay, but there are some overarching issues that feel fundamental to a person’s worldview: their stance on women’s rights, for example, or their beliefs on abortion or climate change. If you feel strongly about those issues, spending time with people with opposing viewpoints might well feel like a betrayal of your principles.

As nice as it might be to believe that we can all benefit from reaching out to those on the other side of the political divide, in practical terms it’s just not very realistic – because unless you’re constantly careful of avoiding drama, every conversation has the potential to be a minefield. In an election year like this one, there will be topics that both parties would have to studiously avoid, for fear of an all-out row or a passive-aggressive concession to “agreeing to disagree”. You’re only ever one heated debate away from causing serious offence, unless you’re prepared to shut off that side of your personality completely.

It’s certainly possible to be polite or even warm acquaintances with someone with very different beliefs to your own (and, dare I say it, to look cheerful when hanging out with your partner’s colleagues, while trying your best to avoid thinking about their dodgy social media posts). But build a deep, lasting friendship? I don’t think so.
 
The biggest mistake you can make is entering into a partisan thing. Be the person who stands above that and don't even try to get a glancing blow in. If they want to make a big scene and make everything about politics, make them be the only one who's playing the game, so it's clear to literally everyone what's happening. You stick to "everything is delicious, I'm so grateful we could all be here tonight" and let them be a fool.
Yeah I have not found that to work with diehard liberals. And it long pre-dates TDS. It's a chronic issue going way back for some of these folks. They simply won't accept diplomacy- only total capitulation. "Kathy did a great job on the stuffing" is answered with "don't change the subject- wait do you support that sick babyhands orange man or something?" Any attempt to derail their ranting is viewed as a counterpoint from the strawman "MAGAt" in their heads. If you're going to be subhuman dogshit so long as you do anything other than affirm their delusions, the only options with moral integrity are to either engage with them according to your honest views, or to fuck off and leave them to their echo chamber.

I've had libtard family members nearly come to the point of physical menacing when I have doggedly tried to deflect their confrontational questioning and jabs. "I don't want to talk about that right now" or "let's just enjoy the food" or "I'd rather talk about anything else than politics" are all seen as admissions of guilt. Such people have dehumanized themselves. It's like dealing with a heroin addict in the family. At some point you do everyone involved a favor by walking away.
 
Good, keep pushing for polarization, balkanize the fuck out of the west, this will wont cause a violent outburst and unending civil strife that will cripple our countries forever and doom us to the same fate of all civilizations that destroy themselves from the inside out.
 
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When we make friends as adults, we tend to be drawn to people who share our values. That’s not to say that you can’t get on well with someone who has, for example, mildly divergent views on how much council tax we should all pay, but there are some overarching issues that feel fundamental to a person’s worldview: their stance on women’s rights, for example, or their beliefs on abortion or climate change. If you feel strongly about those issues, spending time with people with opposing viewpoints might well feel like a betrayal of your principles.
I always made friends with people based on common interests and hobbies. If you can't contain your autism that's a you problem, lady.
This reads like the adult version of a high school girl mad that her friend was nice to that bitch Becky who mogged her at the spring dance.
 
So many things about this article. Okay. *huff*

1. Stop assuming Taylor is supposed to be your bestie. I know she cultivated this image, but even your real-life bestie isn't parroting your political beliefs just because you want her to, and it's kind of sick that you might think she should.
2. Rich people don't play left vs right. They might do it to pander to you for the sake of branding, but they don't care about sides, because they have enough money, influence and power to weather any political troubles brought about by either side of the political spectrum.
3. People act like famous people should be so grateful to be the mouthpieces of nobodies like this one. Like, who are you to tell a famous person that she needs to use her platform to speak up, conveniently about what issue you want her to, taking the side you want her to, and saying the words that you want her to say?
4. The other insidious thing that people do when famous people could say something about an issue is that they want it so badly so they can use it against others. Like, your favorite star would hate you for being against them. Well, fuck off, my favorite star doesn't like me anyway. Whoever that might be doesn't know I'm alive, so knowing that this person might "hate" me doesn't make me feel bad about myself.

It's a chronic issue going way back for some of these folks. They simply won't accept diplomacy- only total capitulation.
So you tell them that, point blank:

"I know you've got an axe to grind, but unless you've got solid evidence of me doing whatever crime you think I've committed that's by the way all in your head, I suggest you pipe down before I humiliate you with some of the real shit I know you did."

Because, let's face it, anyone who is that kind of malicious already did something mean, or else they wouldn't be trying so hard to cover it up with the "good" that they claim they are. You don't even have to know what it is, just let them know that you know they did something that would make them look worse than they're trying to make you look.
 
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I've found this is a worsening trend and it tends to be very one sided.

I've always been fairly conservative, even when I flirted with lolbertarianism, in that I want more traditional values. America was at our strongest when we valued the nuclear family, masculine leadership, and worshipped God. Whether you personally believe in God is irrelevant, there is a strong enough correlation between Godly and orderly societies in recent history it can't be ignored as an outlier. I can admit we had some shitty practices in the past that didn't align with the stated vision, but that doesn't mean throw the baby out with the dishwater. We can and have improved things over the years by working the system as it was intended, and that's all been pissed away in recent history and broken.

But anyway, my experience has been that the rightoids I know and myself don't really care what someone else votes for, as long as they are willing to not yammer on and on about it if they know it's a point of contention. Those are the people who don't get invited to bar nights.
But that doesn't even become a problem anymore because leftoids have been enforcing a cult like stranglehold on their own believers for several years now. This article itself is proof - Taylor Swift was just seen being friendly toward a woman who is married to her "boyfriend"s teammate, and they are already launching the purity spiral articles to rope her back in. The left has honest to God become more openly cult like than Jonestown type shit to the point I'm positive they have murdered their own to keep them from leaving the plantation.
 
This sort of shit drove a wedge between one of my now deceased grandmothers and the rest of the family. I loved her to death(pun intended), but dreaded seeing her from 2017-2021 because she wouldn't shut up about how much she hated Trump. She would call my dad just to rant about Trump.

Thanks to CNN and friends, a beloved member of the family became someone we dreaded interacting with until it was too late to patch up the bridge.
 
This sort of shit drove a wedge between one of my now deceased grandmothers and the rest of the family. I loved her to death(pun intended), but dreaded seeing her from 2017-2021 because she wouldn't shut up about how much she hated Trump. She would call my dad just to rant about Trump.

Thanks to CNN and friends, a beloved member of the family became someone we dreaded interacting with until it was too late to patch up the bridge.
My grandma got the same way about Obama, but she was at the point of losing her mind and later started hating Orange Man for no reason.
 
Okay so what are you supposed to do with people you disagree with? Segregation, deportation, re-education, genocide?
Nothing.

Most people don't even know what they are supporting much less the intricacies of said issues, it's downsides, nor unintended consequences.

On Single Payer Healthcare / Bernie M4A:
KFF polling also shows many people falsely assume they would be able to keep their current health insurance under a single-payer plan, suggesting another potential area for decreased support especially since most supporters (67 percent) of such a proposal think they would be able to keep their current health insurance coverage (Figure 11).

Honestly, most people vote based on emotions without careful and lengthy consideration on all aspects of the law.

Another example is gun control, most vote the general idea of stricter laws but then will feel bad when Blacks are locked up as they tend to be the group least likely to conform to the new law. Such, when Blacks are locked up at higher numbers for CCW without a permit, suddenly their is moral outrage over the amount of nignogs incarcerated:
New York enacted its firearm licensing requirement in the early 20th century to prevent immigrants and people of color from possessing guns. Since its enactment, the law has justified discriminatory policing and criminalization of Black and brown people living in urban low-income communities. As public defenders, we represent too many people of color who face years in prison not for shooting, but for simply possessing an unlicensed gun — something that is legal in close to half of the country.
 
Yes, there's a point where you need to tell someone they need to be quiet if they won't stop trying to bait people with politically controversial statements, jokes, etc. But when you do it, you don't have to interject your viewpoint into it. You don't have to make it a takedown of their politics. It's not an actual obligation to enter into a debate for "your guy" any time someone disparages him.
I was helping some family friends build a barn earlier this year and four out of five of us were on the same wavelength, and when the brother who had been a highschool teacher gently disagreed we just dropped political talk altogether. A few months later when we were baling hay on the evening Trump got shot at the same brother said he thought it was staged and someone else in the truck just said "The production value was incredible then" and then we dropped it after that. It is entirely possible to hold opposing views with people you like if you're a functioning adult.
 
It’s certainly possible to be polite or even warm acquaintances with someone with very different beliefs to your own (and, dare I say it, to look cheerful when hanging out with your partner’s colleagues, while trying your best to avoid thinking about their dodgy social media posts). But build a deep, lasting friendship? I don’t think so.

You're absolutely right, deviationists get a bullet. What a stupid article.
 
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