Disaster South Australian citizens forced to use geoapp location to avoid wuhan wheezer.

The government of South Australia, one of the country’s six states, developed and is now testing an app as Orwellian as any in the free world to enforce its quarantine rules. People in South Australia will be forced to download an app that combines facial recognition and geolocation. The state will text them at random times, and thereafter they will have 15 minutes to take a picture of their face in the location where they are supposed to be. Should they fail, the local police department will be sent to follow up in person. “We don’t tell them how often or when, on a random basis they have to reply within 15 minutes,” Premier Steven Marshall explained. “I think every South Australian should feel pretty proud that we are the national pilot for the home-based quarantine app.”

Other states also curtailed their citizens’ liberty in the name of safety. The state of Victoria announced a curfew and suspended its Parliament for key parts of the pandemic. “To put this in context, federal and state parliaments sat during both world wars and the Spanish Flu, and curfews have never been imposed,” the scholar John Lee observed in an article for the Brookings Institution. “In responding to a question about whether he had gone too far with respect to imposing a curfew (avoiding the question of why a curfew was needed when no other state had one), Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews replied: ‘it is not about human rights. It is about human life.’”

In New South Wales, Police Minister David Elliott defended the deployment of the Australian military to enforce lockdowns, telling the BBC that some residents of the state thought “the rules didn’t apply to them.” In Sydney, where more than 5 million people have been in lockdown for more than two months, and Melbourne, the country’s second-biggest city, anti-lockdown protests were banned, and when dissenters gathered anyway, hundreds were arrested and fined, Reuters reported.

Australia is undoubtedly a democracy, with multiple political parties, regular elections, and the peaceful transfer of power. But if a country indefinitely forbids its own citizens from leaving its borders, strands tens of thousands of its citizens abroad, puts strict rules on intrastate travel, prohibits citizens from leaving home without an excuse from an official government list, mandates masks even when people are outdoors and socially distanced, deploys the military to enforce those rules, bans protest, and arrests and fines dissenters, is that country still a liberal democracy?

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article link: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/pandemic-australia-still-liberal-democracy/619940/

I don't usually post threads in this sub forum, but I didn't see this posted yet and it seemed like somethin' worth postin'. I thought it was amusing at least.

feel like this is a real "at what point is the cure worse than the disease?" type of shit, innit?
 
They can't even shoot the jackbooted thugs because they turned in their guns. Doesn't seem like such a smart decision now, does it? Poor bastards, they'll have to hurl boomarangs like abbos!
 
Does anyone know why exactly Australia and New Zealand in particular seem to be so gung-ho about COVID and lockdowns still? Europe and North America seems to have moved on, or are at the very least gradually opening up as more people get vaccinated. What is it about these two countries in particular that's causing them to go off the deep end? Has isolation from the rest of the world for the past year and a half made them go mental?
 
Does anyone know why exactly Australia and New Zealand in particular seem to be so gung-ho about COVID and lockdowns still? Europe and North America seems to have moved on, or are at the very least gradually opening up as more people get vaccinated. What is it about these two countries in particular that's causing them to go off the deep end? Has isolation from the rest of the world for the past year and a half made them go mental?
Sunk cost fallacy in action. They bought into "zero COVID" from the start and don't want to admit it is completely unfeasible.
 
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What if people don't want to use a smartphone?

I never liked smartphones, they always seemed like mass surveillance devices to me and South Australia is now confirming my suspicions.
Yeah, I'm not sure how exactly they could enforce this law if you choose to sell it or don't own one already. Force you to buy one? Give you one for free?
 
Lmao prison island is filled with cucks if they let this go through.

Question to any kiwi historians, did the ruling bodies at the time of the bubonic plague take such extreme measures?
Way worse, by any conceivable measure. European cities literally had plague jails to throw in any victims and their close contacts (usually families/neighbors), entire villages that got the plague would be walled off from the rest of society and left to die rather than spread it, more than a few straight-up killed any outsiders who looked like they could be carriers.
Pretty sure it became a Venetian pastime to sink Ottoman traders at some points because of how fearful they were of the plague coming back.
 
@Jimjamflimflam What could they have done during the Bubonic plague that's comparable to forcing you to use a smartphone that's always on so you can be geotracked and receive their messages to which you're obliged to reply? Send a courier to make an etching of your face?

Lol while the idea of calling up random peasants on scrying crystals sounds fun, I'm just curious were taken place. How extreme did the authorities act to deal with the plague
 
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Way worse, by any conceivable measure. European cities literally had plague jails to throw in any victims and their close contacts (usually families/neighbors), entire villages that got the plague would be walled off from the rest of society and left to die rather than spread it, more than a few straight-up killed any outsiders who looked like they could be carriers.
Pretty sure it became a Venetian pastime to sink Ottoman traders at some points because of how fearful they were of the plague coming back.
See, the Bubonic Plague killed a third of Europe's population. I think I'd much rather take my chances with COVID and its 99% survival rate.
 
Lol while the idea of calling up random peasants on scrying crystals sounds fun, I'm just curious were taken place. How extreme did the authorities act to deal with the plague
It varies wildly based on where and when, but the measures ranged from "deport all the Jews" to "burn all the cats" to border quarantines.
 
See, the Bubonic Plague killed a third of Europe's population. I think I'd much rather take my chances with COVID and its 99% survival rate.
Oh yeah, the response was 100% more justified than with COVID, just pointing out that as irritating as the current streak of authoritarianism among the Anglosphere is, we're nowhere near medieval-tier responses to disease.
It helps that we understand what's causing the illness instead of thinking it was a punishment from God, of course. I wonder what COVID would do to a medieval population. Probably not a lot outside of the elderly, since they were all stick thin outside of the wealthy caste.
 
Lmao prison island is filled with cucks if they let this go through.

Question to any kiwi historians, did the ruling bodies at the time of the bubonic plague take such extreme measures?
Well the city-state of Milan would wall off entire families inside their homes to die if one of them showed sickness.
 
Lmao prison island is filled with cucks if they let this go through.

Question to any kiwi historians, did the ruling bodies at the time of the bubonic plague take such extreme measures?
This was the country of Ned Kelly, and to imagine this sort of lunatic tyranny. Aussies have long obeyed stupid laws like mandatory bicycle helmets even though the evidence for them is mixed. An endless array of nanny laws willingly obeyed leads to the present madness. There is a bit protest movement, but the mass of people still don't seem to be moving against the system, and by that I would mean just relentlessly breaking those silly laws, not storming parliament or the Chinese Embassy (who rules prison island). The Aussies were also acting so smugly a while back about how they were vanquishing the Chink cough. Even from the point of view of a COVIDarian they've failed. Now in reality it's good to have so few vaxxed, as it means women will have children, and men and women won't get blood clots in the future. It's mad. Australia is basically Bongland with more sunshine, a place whose rulers love petty rules with a people who keep obeying these petty rules. All this for a near hoax that only harms lardos and a tiny few unlucky people.
 
Lmao prison island is filled with cucks if they let this go through.

Question to any kiwi historians, did the ruling bodies at the time of the bubonic plague take such extreme measures?
Not really at all, at best there were attempted quarantines (I believe the term was invented by the Venetians) and some Italian cities tried things like walling people inside their homes but these measures universally failed, not the least because the plague vector was not understood and it spread so rapidly. Oftentimes by the point anyone was in a position to do anything about the plague it had already run its course.

In comparison, COVID is such a mild pandemic the government is not only fully staffed 18 months later but has the time and resources to deliberate on and implement these measures. The Spanish flu was orders of magnitude worse than it in every way.
 
And I thought this was bad:
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I'm sure Reddit (and all the the other paranoid, pro-lockdown control freaks) are fucking thrilled with these developments.
 
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