Speedrunning Thread (Take 2) - GOTTA GO FAST

[Super Collie]

UPDATE 06/2018: This thread is for covering the following:
- One-off incidents/drama with speedrunners who do not have their own thread
- Gossip about happenings within the speedrun community
- Other odds and ends pertaining to the people & places of speedrunning
Discussion about specific marathons (GDQ, ESA, NASA, etc) belongs in this thread.

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Original thread was locked due to age, so I've reposted it because of some drama that happened literally within the first hour of Awesome Games Done Quick this year (AGDQ 2017).

PvtCinnamonbun, a speedrunner who ironically includes Sonic games in his lineup of titles, was ejected from AGDQ today for allegedly wearing a MAGA hat during his time on the commentary couch during the Ape Escape 2 run. He insists that he wasn't wearing the hat during the run at all, yet this screenshot from the VOD on Twitch seems to tell a different story. Not sure who this is in the frame, but that looks like a MAGA hat:



In a YouTube video recorded in secret by fellow runner Cyberdemon531, PvtCB claims to AGDQ staff that the only hat he wore was an Ape Escape light-up helmet, which he did wear at one point, and insists he never wore or even showed a MAGA hat. PvtCB was escorted out of the event, and Cyberdemon531 was later banned as well presumably for recording their conversation with event staff though this has not been confirmed. PvtCB has posted a transcription of the YouTube video as well as his arguments against his ban on Pastebin, HERE.

PvtCB's official reason for banning was for "wearing clothing that states political affiliation", however as you can see on Reddit and in the comments of the private YouTube video some are already crying foul that this is simply hugboxing to kick out people with "different" opinions. Some appear to be making plans to challenge AGDQ staff by wearing "I'm With Her" clothes at a later time. PvtCB supports this theory, as he did some digging on the Twitter account of Klaige (the staff member who banned him) and sure enough, the guy shills for Hillary.



When confronted, event staff changed their minds on the reason for the bans, but still stand by banning the two runners this time for "different reasons" which are unclear at this time.

As always, this is now developing so more info will likely come up as the evening goes on. You can check the hashtag #AGDQ2017 for discussion on Twitter.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER GREAT MARATHON!


(ps: I am archiving the YouTube video and working on saving some of the comments for posterity in the likely event that it gets pulled.)

 

[OwO What's This?]

It's no secret that the Let's Play community fucking loathes the opinions and existence of the working class.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

It's no secret that the Let's Play community fucking loathes the opinions and existence of the working class.

Why shouldn't they? Many of them seriously believe they should be paid a living wage to play video games all day.

 

[Super Collie]

It's no secret that the Let's Play community fucking loathes the opinions and existence of the working class.

Why shouldn't they? Many of them seriously believe they should be paid a living wage to play video games all day.

The LP/Streaming community is really kind of odd, because you're both exactly right but the vast majority of streamers who've "made it" adopt this fakey faux-humble "I just like to do what I do" attitude when it comes to their "job". These streamers -- which I'm defining loosely as "can meet their minimum financial responsibilities via their content" -- seem to come off as arrogant and disingenuous on camera. This isn't an across-the-board type of thing, but it's almost like they take their monthly Autism Bux 2.0 for granted, just like a welfare leech. Cosmo (Narcissa Wright) was one of those haughty types and I couldn't see in him what his fans did, because he just came off as really arrogant and "I'm better than you". Wouldn't you know, he eventually trooned out and adopted exactly that mindset. It's a very fascinating phenomenon. I just wish I could better articulate it or look into it because I feel like it could be a great experience for the Farms.

The streamers that I can stand to watch and participate with are the ones who don't make a living doing it. I guess maybe it's because they still have aspirations (and the motivation to get better to reach them) but whatever the case they just seem more jovial and easy going when it comes to streaming and speedrunning. One guy I know used to have a legit world record, then his time was obliterated by something like seven or eight minutes. He didn't even throw a fit you see so often with these uppity "professional" types, he was just "it was fun to have it while I did, this other guy earned it and now it's his to be proud of".

 

[Intelligent Calcium]

Why shouldn't they? Many of them seriously believe they should be paid a living wage to play video games all day.

You haven't read the Cosmo/Narcissa thread then, because he believes he should be paid for streaming himself laying in bed.

 

[Super Collie]

Been meaning to post in this thread but I've been distracted by AGDQ too much. Update on PvtCinnamonbun and the MAGA hat "controversy". As it turns out, PvtCinnamonbun did not put on one of the hats, the person in the screencap wearing the hat is PvtCb's friend Cyberdemon531. He was banned from the event. PvtCb's ban was overturned briefly, however the staff re-negged on that and kept his ban in place for undisclosed reasons. (Knowing him, he probably did something stupid worthy of a ban anyways as he's caused trouble in the past.)

The story doesn't end there however. 2m (Twitter), allegedly left a note outside of PvtCb and Cyberdemon's hotel room door saying "you deserved it". This is a form of harassment and as per AGDQ's rules 2m should be banned as well, and PvtCb claims to have video footage (hotel security cameras) of 2m leaving the note. 2m seems to have remained at the event the entire week without any repercussions. If you check 2m's Twitter feed, he's exactly the type of person you're picturing him as.

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During the traditional run of Super Metroid a bunch of spergs in the audience began doing obnoxious Waluigi impressions. At first they acapella'd the iconic "item" tune from the game each time one of the four runners got an item, but it quickly devolved into people yelling "wah" at random culminating in someone finally screaming an incredibly loud one from the crowd. Some of the runners were visibly upset and annoyed, and CruelFancyBaron (a couch commentator) shut the meme down by using the mic of the guy sitting next to him to blurt out:

"None of you are funny. If you want to prevent cancer go stand in front of the shuttle running by the hotel on the hour."

(Archived video)

Games Done Quick tweeted out that they had apparently dealt with the issue and for people to enjoy the race, but of course that's not what's going to happen.

The #AGDQ2017 tag on Twitter immediately turned into a clusterfuck of triggered snowflakes upset at the admittedly shitty remark. I don't know how to link to a snapshot or something of the tag, because it moves so fast that this will end up getting buried, but essentially all of the people who were tuning in specifically to watch the Undertale run after Super Metroid got their pronouns knickered up.

Reddit's /r/speedrun page also lit up, and archive.is appears to not like Reddit right now so I can't provide archive links so here's the two threads on it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/5o1ykf/that_was_a_bit_harsh/
https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/5o1yjb/whos_the_dude_that_just_told_people_to_kill_them/

This literally just happened like 15 minutes ago as of this post so I don't know if he's been banned or what. As far as I know he wasn't escorted out of the event because he remained on camera for the rest of the Super Metroid run.

tl;dr: You're witnessing the birth of the newest iteration of "I'd prefer if you were quiet".

 

[The Colonel]

About what 99% of all speedrunners look like.

 

[punks is hippies]

I recommend watching it near the end of the last AGDQ video on twitch for the comments and several minutes of silent awkwardness after the comment.

https://www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick/v/114431771
around 37:25:00

 

[NARPASSWORD]

Just saw the title for the thread, and this was the first thing that came to mind.

 

[Super Collie]

Just saw the title for the thread, and this was the first thing that came to mind.

Classic. The srs bizness runners always produce the best content. Cosmo/Narcissa Wright still takes the crown though for getting BTFO so hard at Legend of Zelda that he tucked his wiener in and put on a dress.

 

[Truant]

Where to begin? Let's start with Bigjon, who you've probably seen and heard at AGDQ.

He's a fat fetishist who for a while made it his goal to get the biggest gut possible and documented his journey on the fat fetishist social media website, Grommr.

When this was discovered he deleted everything and damage controlled hard, claiming he was just "fooling around in college". Bigjon has a good reputation in the community and is overall a nice guy so the matter wasn't pressed hard.

 

[D.Va]

Wew, that's something I never wanted to know about Big Jon.

I guess that's a phase that has come and gone, considering he's a pretty successful programmer so Twitch streaming is not his day job and he's not dependent on that. He's still an IRL Big Smoke, but he's too likeable.

 

[Rumblies in my Tumblies]

Holy shit, never knew that about Big Jon. He's pretty much universally loved among the speedrun community so that's a little weird to see. Oh well.

Anywho, there's some pretty great meltdowns from speedrunners. People have already brought up Cosmo and there's a whole thread about them, so I'll leave that one be; it's a treasure trove for sure, though.

Since we're covering the classic stuff...

Werster is pretty up there for me as far as being a fucking dick goes. He's an Australian speedrunner mostly known for having several records in Pokemon games and for a time he was a big streamer. Issue being, of course, he lived with his mother, which caused some chafing here and then.

14 solid minutes of him screaming at his mom. Best part: it's because his girlfriend was cheating on him with his own brother, and his mother not only knew about it, but actively drove them around to hide it from Werster.

Or AGDQ 2013, before they went super hardcore on banning anything even remotely "vulgar"... sure enough, there's Werster saying "fucking niggers" while running a game at AGDQ's bonus stream.

No idea why this guy has this labeled as 2016, but whatever.

And of course, the most autistic thing to ever happen at an AGDQ:

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Speedrunning can be fun.

>If it doesn't involve the usual suspects
>If it doesn't involve stupid fucking arguments
>If there's no face or commentary at all

CJGaroff does a fantastic Hitman speedrun, but the game encourages quick finishes anyways.

I remember someone beating Spyro 2 in like five minutes.

 

[Truant]

CruelFancyBaron, or CFB, is also known as CompletelyFuckingBald due to his male pattern baldness. He's very sensitive about this and gets very upset when you mention it.
It's the reason he was wearing that beanie indoors at night during AGDQ.

 

[The Colonel]

14 solid minutes of him screaming at his mom. Best part: it's because his girlfriend was cheating on him with his own brother, and his mother not only knew about it, but actively drove them around to hide it from Werster.

Damn. That's just fucking shitty. Girlfriend cheats on you with your brother and your own mom is actively involved in hiding it.

 

[D.Va]

Obligatory post: crazy knitting girl asking the speedrunner to stop his charity speedgame

 

[Ravelord]

Holy shit, never knew that about Big Jon. He's pretty much universally loved among the speedrun community so that's a little weird to see. Oh well.

Anywho, there's some pretty great meltdowns from speedrunners. People have already brought up Cosmo and there's a whole thread about them, so I'll leave that one be; it's a treasure trove for sure, though.

Since we're covering the classic stuff...

Werster is pretty up there for me as far as being a fucking dick goes. He's an Australian speedrunner mostly known for having several records in Pokemon games and for a time he was a big streamer. Issue being, of course, he lived with his mother, which caused some chafing here and then.

14 solid minutes of him screaming at his mom. Best part: it's because his girlfriend was cheating on him with his own brother, and his mother not only knew about it, but actively drove them around to hide it from Werster.

Or AGDQ 2013, before they went super hardcore on banning anything even remotely "vulgar"... sure enough, there's Werster saying "fucking niggers" while running a game at AGDQ's bonus stream.

No idea why this guy has this labeled as 2016, but whatever.

And of course, the most autistic thing to ever happen at an AGDQ:

Tbh, I like werster, if only because of all the salty he gets when the rng screws him over. I only watch his pokemon speedruns, though. Didn't know about the gf drama though .


Also I thought he would have an electronics or computer engineering degree or something, because of him memorizing loadzones, stats and coming with routing.


Finally,I definetely agree with him being a dick (specially on stream).

 

[Overcast]

I don't really get those who attempt to speed run RPG's like Pokemon. Considering how RNG plays a very large factor in most of those kinds of games, it just feels like an exercise in futility.

 

[Intelligent Calcium]

Another retelling of the MAGA hat incident.
(archive)

Obligatory post: crazy knitting girl asking the speedrunner to stop his charity speedgame

Didn't she become a staff member after that?