Sperg about comic books here

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

“How can we make absolutely sure no one ever buys comics again and manga finishes its complete takeover of the graphic novel market?”
“Boss, I have an idea.”

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

I heard that it was just a bonus page that didn't actually contribute to the plot of the story at all. Just filler. But it's still a dumb idea. The claim that it's to stop piracy, spoilers, and leaks is a braindead take from Tom.

 

[Devil Buster Busters]

sounds like it will just be even more convenient to pirate than before

 

[snowdunes]

QR code where you have to access the content you paid on a random Marvel server.

Academic literature has this shit too, often you had the anwsers for exercises on the last pages of the book, then they started to only include them as a seperate "student guide" (this was fine due to they show "how to do it" in detail and it was still in paper form), but then they removed all the physical copies only to have a serial number to access the exercise anwsers online instead. It gets worse when they release a new edition of said book because the webpage is either taken down or the code is just invalid ("old version is not supported" meme).

You buy a physical book only for its content to be on a computer display in the end. I give it another 20 years until books are what CD's are today: A gimmick giftcard for a website. I hate modern books so much.

 

[0 0]

I heard that it was just a bonus page that didn't actually contribute to the plot of the story at all. Just filler. But it's still a dumb idea. The claim that it's to stop piracy, spoilers, and leaks is a braindead take from Tom.

It's like watching a movie but it stops to make you state the American pledge of allegiance before it shows the next scene. Doesn't matter if that's the ending or bonus content, people are going to hate it.

Even video games that have some bonus content hidden away most frequently have people only ever experience it via watching a YouTube video. People are more likely to pirate your media if you make it just the slightest bit more inconvenient to access. I pirate shows I already have access to just because piracy websites are way more accessible.

 

[ZipDisk]

This is an incredibly corporate move
"Let's create a dependency for a physical object!"

and Fabian Nicieza is a faggot.

I think the last comics I read were the edited civil war comics that made Tony Stark an even bigger sex freak and all logan could say was "grr snikt". This actually improved Civil War logan.
And that was a fully pirate operation.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

This is an incredibly corporate move
"Let's create a dependency for a physical object!"

and Fabian Nicieza is a faggot.

I think the last comics I read were the edited civil war comics that made Tony Stark an even bigger sex freak and all logan could say was "grr snikt". This actually improved Civil War logan.
And that was a fully pirate operation.

I want to read that version of Civil War

 

[jONALD]

this could have been done around 10 or so ago when QR codes weren't as common and probably had things worth being hidden like that because it would have been a cool way of using the rapidly evolving tech. It also doesn't strike me as malicious DRM if it's JUST a bonus page but definitely annoying as hell since the magic of comic books is holding the damn thing in your hands.

 

[ZipDisk]

It was fantastic, they did the whole series. I got it on demonoid but lost it in a hard drive crash. It was like Nextwave on crack.
And it's impossible to find now because of the fucking movie.

LOL, even the guy who did it lost it in a hard drive crash. Fuck mid 2000's hard drives.

https://mightygodking.com/i-dont-need-your-civil-war/

 

[Faceless Whore]

>From now on, Marvel readers will pirate their comics, and nobody at Marvel understands why

 

[jspit2.0]

Watch as this doesn't stop piracy.

Now stay with me. No one will pirate the books if no one wants to reads them!

4D chess my guy.

 

[Nick Obre]

This is an incredibly corporate move
"Let's create a dependency for a physical object!"

and Fabian Nicieza is a faggot.

I think the last comics I read were the edited civil war comics that made Tony Stark an even bigger sex freak and all logan could say was "grr snikt". This actually improved Civil War logan.
And that was a fully pirate operation.

I want to read that version of Civil War

It was fantastic, they did the whole series. I got it on demonoid but lost it in a hard drive crash. It was like Nextwave on crack.
And it's impossible to find now because of the fucking movie.

LOL, even the guy who did it lost it in a hard drive crash. Fuck mid 2000's hard drives.

https://mightygodking.com/i-dont-need-your-civil-war/

I Don't Need Your Civil War may be lost, but you can always read (EDIT: Wait, the whole thing is on that link, man! It's MGK's other, less famous parodies that were permanently lost. For instance, the take down of Sally Floyd's bullshit in Frontline is lost except for the most important page)

Muh Phoenix, a parody of Avengers vs X-Men by Nuzlocke (yes, the same guy who invented the Pokemon Nuzlocke challenge).

and

Illuminating Comics, a parody of Hickman Avengers (including Secret Wars) and more, by Illuminated (Links on the site are broken but I gotchu my lads). Shoutout to his own original comics, too.

Personally I found Muh Phoenix funnier than the Civil War parody, but too vulgar at times, while Illuminating Comics is just about the best of these comic parodies, the most complete, and with an ending actually better than the real comic.

FURTHER EDIT: Fuck it, I've added the MGK Civil War and Muh Phoenix to the same link as the Illuminated ones. They deserve to be preserved. There was another parody called Unxanny X-Men, which I never got to read, and it seems to be truly, fully lost; cant let it happen to these.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

I Don't Need Your Civil War may be lost, but you can always read

Muh Phoenix, a parody of Avengers vs X-Men by Nuzlocke (yes, the same guy who invented the Pokemon Nuzlocke challenge).

and

Illuminating Comics, a parody of Hickman Avengers (including Secret Wars) and more, by Illuminated (Links on the site are broken but I gotchu my lads). Shoutout to his own original comics, too.

Personally I found Muh Phoenix funnier than the Civil War parody, but too vulgar at times, while Illuminating Comics is just about the best of these comic parodies, the most complete, and with an ending actually better than the real comic.

This is like the English dub of Ghost Stories for Comics

 

[Depressed_Oni]

Good to see the comics are down bad, the business model hits people who enjoyed physical media.

 

[Troonos]

Marvel have been adding in effect physical DRM to their new X-Men issues by blocking the last page with a QR code where you have to access the content you paid on a random Marvel server. Who knows if they even let these stay up beyond a few months for each issue. VP Executive Editor Tom Brevoort claims these were for anti-piracy measures and to stop spoilers and leaks.

Pirate every comic book. Fuck these people.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

That's nothing compared to some of the other stuff Moore wrote. Look up Neonomicon, it has really weird fish-monster rape in it. I really don't think Alan Moore deserves to have any fanbase.

And he's so bitter about the watchmen film. Wouldn't you be excited by it? Not just the fact that a group of oh 1,000 or however many worked on it would be appreciative and recognized enough property to even make a big budget film, but in that it would get more people to check out the original source material.

Either he didn't get enough hugs as a kid or he's related to Thatcher.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

And he's so bitter about the watchmen film. Wouldn't you be excited by it? Not just the fact that a group of oh 1,000 or however many worked on it would be appreciative and recognized enough property to even make a big budget film, but in that it would get more people to check out the original source material.

Either he didn't get enough hugs as a kid or he's related to Thatcher.

He's bitter about Watchmen in general cause in his mind it's his Odyssey, it's his das kapital, it was not something to be patented merchandised and sold for a dime. Dave gibbons perfectly knew it was just a contract job but alan took it too seriously and when dc milked Watchmen, that soured him and it felt like betrayal so he disavowed it (A bit like the Williams katzenberg situation with Aladdin). He's been doing the same to every company he works for, he thinks his work is serious literature, the company milks the property, he disavows it. If he was 10 years younger and did self publishing, he would've been better off.

 

[Endangered Species List]

the magic of comic books is holding the damn thing in your hands.

This has me wondering how many people are reading comics digitally (let’s also assume legally for a fair comparison) versus reading physical comics.
Feel free to ignore, been awhile since I’ve talked about comics and considering the name of the thread I figure it’s a bit more acceptable to sperg out here.

TL;DR: what’s the fucking point

Spoiler: long, retarded sperging

I can only find stats for ebooks vs physical books, but I feel that’d be comparing apples to oranges. The most popular and trendy books you can get just about anywhere, but when it comes to comics unless you have an actual comic book shop that’s within a realistically commutable distance, you’re kind of fucked unless you want to deal with getting a physical subscription.

Back before I got capeshit fatigue, I know that ComiXology was getting shilled pretty hard (in my experience, at least). I used whatever the Marvel app was at the time to read stuff because the nearest comic book shop made me uncomfortable for a variety of reasons + the physical comics were just too damn expensive for me. Both services offered a ton of perks and deals that just made them the obviously better options. I see now that Amazon recently merged it into their Kindle service, so it’s offered alongside manga (which I feel has both attracted readers towards and away from western comics) and offers perks to Amazon Prime members which is a lot of people.

You go to somewhere like Barnes & Nobles, and the manga/webcomic section has usually taken up most of that “pop culture” space where comics and related merch used to be. Some of the merch is still there, but most of the comic book shelf space is dedicated to collected editions, volumes, and art books. You’re usually going to be hard pressed to find a single issue of anything specific unless you find a local comics shop, pay for a mail subscription, or the cheapest option… buying from a digital service. While holding a physical comic is really nice, people are spending less and less on nonessentials these days so digital services where you can get frequent discounts and freebies on singular issues I feel have become the most accessible option for readers these days. And when you’re already reading something on your phone, scanning a QR code just isn’t that big a deal. And since I’m assuming the majority of comic book readers these days read digitally, I don’t think they’re really going to complain about it (or praise it) enough to influence if the whole thing gets walked back or not.

I’m curious to see if they stay true to the claim of only hiding bonus content and stuff behind the QR code. And despite what I said about how easy it is to scan a QR code, I honestly don’t think this is going to be a thing for very long. Not because of complaining or anything, but just because it’s kinda useless.

I’m thinking of it as like a post credits scene. Some people are going to be okay with putting in a little patience to see it. Some people are going to leave once the actual movie is done because they don’t care. And some people are going to leave once the movie finishes because they know that they can just see the post credits scene later online (even though recording movies is illegal). Even if no one complains about having to wait for the credits to finish, that’s still only 1/3 putting in “effort.”

And that’s factoring in the high prices of seeing films in theaters + the online pop culture influence of block busters (so FOMO) + the pause between films where it can be years before the post credits scene actually pays off. When you’re buying digital comics at reduced prices + have less immediate impact on pop culture individually (because they have to compete with a million other series until they maybe get hyped up because a movie gets made based on it years down the line) and so have less FOMO, and when the “post credits scene”/bonus content can pay off within the next issues over the course of a few weeks or months, I don’t think a good portion of readers will have mental investment to put in even the littlest effort to see it.

This is also where I think manga has had an advantage over comics. There’s usually longer wait times between chapters, and the reader bases tend to gather around a few “big” manga each season and collectively experience each release around the same time. While not as expensive as watching a movie (I mean, shit, some publishers even allow you to read the most recent chapter for free), you’ve still got that feeling social investment because most people in the related fandom will be ‘on the same page’ at the same time.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

He's bitter about Watchmen in general cause in his mind it's his Odyssey, it's his das kapital, it was not something to be patented merchandised and sold for a dime. Dave gibbons perfectly knew it was just a contract job but alan took it too seriously and when dc milked Watchmen, that soured him and it felt like betrayal so he disavowed it (A bit like the Williams katzenberg situation with Aladdin). He's been doing the same to every company he works for, he thinks his work is serious literature, the company milks the property, he disavows it. If he was 10 years younger and did self publishing, he would've been better off.

To be fair, he was promised ownership and then got screwed out of it. He even offered to make a sequel at one point if they'd give him the rights back and DC said no. Then he created some books for Jim Lee, and then Lee sold them to DC and he lost control again. I can understand him being bitter, but as you said he takes himself way too seriously.

As for self-publishing, he constantly avoids it. He was one of the only writers Image tried to get on board, and aside from some contract work he did for their books, he never gave them an original series. He wants to be paid up front for his work, but also have full control of it. And that ain't happening.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

To be fair, he was promised ownership and then got screwed out of it. He even offered to make a sequel at one point if they'd give him the rights back and DC said no. Then he created some books for Jim Lee, and then Lee sold them to DC and he lost control again. I can understand him being bitter, but as you said he takes himself way too seriously.

Thats not a Watchmen Sequel, thats an ending to the DC universe which I think was called Twilight of the Superheroes which he pitched to DC but they rejected cause it effectively ended the DC universe. Superman and Diana got married and ruled on olympus but I think Darkseid or somebody launches an attack and everyone gets killed, something something.

As for self-publishing, he constantly avoids it. He was one of the only writers Image tried to get on board, and aside from some contract work he did for their books, he never gave them an original series. He wants to be paid up front for his work, but also have full control of it. And that ain't happening.

He gave them that 1963 series from what I remember. He has the same attitude as Neil Gaiman which is if their property gets used for anything (movies, merchandise, spinoffs, mergers etc), they get money. Gaiman in a lot of interviews sounded just as salty about his old british comics which he didnt get rights for. Theres also the infamous legal battle he had with Mcfarlane. I think most british invasion writers have that mindset cause theyre commies, some more unhinged than the others like Moore and Gaiman. Its not completely bad, if you own the ip and if its self published but they dont want to do that either.