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JimiHendrix said:
was a pretty good idea with a neat character that kinda didn't go anywhere. which is the entirety of Invincible, honestly.
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I think Invincible was good but Kirkman wasn't able to dedicate his attention to all of it.

Honestly might have benefitted from Kirkman letting other decent writers do an arc. I mean ffs Kirman had Brit! and Wolfman as spinoff characters so it's not like the idea wasn't done.
 
King Koalemos said:
I think Invincible was good but Kirkman wasn't able to dedicate his attention to all of it.

Honestly might have benefitted from Kirkman letting other decent writers do an arc. I mean ffs Kirman had Brit! and Wolfman as spinoff characters so it's not like the idea wasn't done.
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i don't think Invincible was BAD, exactly. but the use of two time skips, weird dropped plot points, like Mark going to the future and seeing everything is shit and then at the end of the story repeating the actions that he *knows* leads to the shit future...like...is that intentional? that we know the future is hopeless or did kirkman forget or what

and how Robot's defeat was handled. I just think the story coulda definitely been handled better in some areas, but I don't regret reading it.
 
Boston Brand said:
Heard they're canceling Savage Avengers. Shame, seeing Conan interact with the Marvel universe has been a riot.
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shame because Marvel outright bought Conan, didn't they?

Savage Avengers was fun but I feel like it didn't quite live up to expectations. It would have been a smash runaway hit in like 2009 though.
 
King Koalemos said:
shame because Marvel outright bought Conan, didn't they?

Savage Avengers was fun but I feel like it didn't quite live up to expectations. It would have been a smash runaway hit in like 2009 though.
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I feel like there are a ton of great ideas that would have beeb smash hits had they dropped in 2009... now its like doing a guitar solo on the deck of the titanic.

As for Conan, the opposite - I think Marvel LOST the rights. Some European company bought the full rights to Conan.
 
Boston Brand said:
I feel like there are a ton of great ideas that would have beeb smash hits had they dropped in 2009... now its like doing a guitar solo on the deck of the titanic.

As for Conan, the opposite - I think Marvel LOST the rights. Some European company bought the full rights to Conan.
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www.ign.com

Funcom Fully Acquires Conan the Barbarian Character, New Game In the Works - IGN

Norwegian game developer Funcom announce that it has acquired the rights to Conan the Barbarian, Solomon Kane, Mutant Year Zero, and more.
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seems they didn't outright loose it ngl.

we're at the point where the loyal consumer bases have eroded and all that's left are the zombie consooooomers and the twitterites who buy first issues.
 
Fromtheblackdepths said:
What is up with Squadron Supreme, why does Marvel keep bringing them in?
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I don't know, but for me the only version that I care was the Max version, I would love if Gary Frank and Straza came back to where they started and ignored everything that came after. It is such a shame to see such an interesting world die with every new writer and their shitty idea.

And the shittiest one was of course bendis.
 
Registration said:
I don't know, but for me the only version that I care was the Max version, I would love if Gary Frank and Straza came back to where they started and ignored everything that came after. It is such a shame to see such an interesting world die with every new writer and their shitty idea.

And the shittiest one was of course bendis.
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I really loved that series. To the point that if they ever release the Squadron in plastek, my shelf has a spot for them. The one-armed military guy was great. Fucking hell, Gary Frank left for Superman and that's understandable, but at that issue? Liverpunch.
 
Fromtheblackdepths said:
What is up with Squadron Supreme, why does Marvel keep bringing them in?
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Mark Greunwald liked them, made them interesting, and his work is appreciated. Maybe it's just that some of the ideas are genuinely interesting, maybe him being beloved made people take a softer look at these characters created as throwaway villains for Avengers. I dug the Hyperion AIM pulled out of the remnants of a universal collision, and before him King Hyperion snorted Holocaust to death in Exiles.
 
Prehistoric Jazz said:
Mark Greunwald liked them, made them interesting, and his work is appreciated. Maybe it's just that some of the ideas are genuinely interesting, maybe him being beloved made people take a softer look at these characters created as throwaway villains for Avengers. I dug the Hyperion AIM pulled out of the remnants of a universal collision, and before him King Hyperion snorted Holocaust to death in Exiles.
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meanwhile, Marvel kinda threw away the Hyperion from AIM after Secret Wars, for some reason.

and never explained it.



Then introduced a new Hyperion. FSR.
 
Squadron Supreme can be pretty fun, I like a lot of the series over the years with them. Hyperion is fun because you can do stuff DC would never let you do with even an alternate Superman. But they almost never seem to work when shoved into a mainstream universe.

JimiHendrix said:
i don't think Invincible was BAD, exactly. but the use of two time skips, weird dropped plot points, like Mark going to the future and seeing everything is shit and then at the end of the story repeating the actions that he *knows* leads to the shit future...like...is that intentional? that we know the future is hopeless or did kirkman forget or what

and how Robot's defeat was handled. I just think the story coulda definitely been handled better in some areas, but I don't regret reading it.
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Kirkman alone has convinced me that writers should only be allowed one time skip per series by federal law. Also he clearly had no idea how to actually end either of his ongoing series.
 
Invincible skipped over anything actually interesting. It was the pretty standard Indie comics Superman story outside of Mark being a literal cuck who lets Eve walk all over him. Western Writers really need to learn to keep shit to like 10 words a panel, visual medium is visual. If a guy is stealing from a nuclear plant then show a nuclear plant in the establishing panel or environment. Relationship drama in Western shit, not just capeshit, really makes me think that the bulk of these people love NTR. Every fucking time a character has a marriage that works it's time to introduce cuckshit. I think marriage as an institution is being attacked and has been for the past century, but comics media for the last 40 years goes whole fucking hog.

Another Spergout, half of the writers in capeshit are really carried by the artists. Buddy of mine really loved Immortal Hulk and that was really carried by the artist. Ewing is just Gillen-lite who uses continuity to cover his shortcomings as a writer. His OC's are shit and Immortal Hulk from the issues I read was really fucking pretentious for a cape book. Hulk is a character who even under Peter David just sucks. Having Bruce absorb Hulk is just boring, She-Hulk was the only good character to come out of the Hulk. Have a character kick him into space and have him drift until he dies, he's better as an entity that causes disaster than as a character.
 
BeepBoopBeepBoop said:
Invincible skipped over anything actually interesting. It was the pretty standard Indie comics Superman story outside of Mark being a literal cuck who lets Eve walk all over him. Western Writers really need to learn to keep shit to like 10 words a panel, visual medium is visual. If a guy is stealing from a nuclear plant then show a nuclear plant in the establishing panel or environment. Relationship drama in Western shit, not just capeshit, really makes me think that the bulk of these people love NTR. Every fucking time a character has a marriage that works it's time to introduce cuckshit. I think marriage as an institution is being attacked and has been for the past century, but comics media for the last 40 years goes whole fucking hog.

Another Spergout, half of the writers in capeshit are really carried by the artists. Buddy of mine really loved Immortal Hulk and that was really carried by the artist. Ewing is just Gillen-lite who uses continuity to cover his shortcomings as a writer. His OC's are shit and Immortal Hulk from the issues I read was really fucking pretentious for a cape book. Hulk is a character who even under Peter David just sucks. Having Bruce absorb Hulk is just boring, She-Hulk was the only good character to come out of the Hulk. Have a character kick him into space and have him drift until he dies, he's better as an entity that causes disaster than as a character.
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I loved the book, but I did not get the finale at all. What does the Leader's ancestor have to do with the current situation? Was it implying that The One Below IS also The One Above? I did not understand his answer to the Hulk about why The Hulk exists. It all felt like Ewing was trying too hard to be deep and came up short. Also, Jacquelin McGee did next to nothing the whole series aside from tag along, only to be used as a quick dues ex machina at the end. What a surprise /sneed
 
Water-T said:
I loved the book, but I did not get the finale at all. What does the Leader's ancestor have to do with the current situation? Was it implying that The One Below IS also The One Above? I did not understand his answer to the Hulk about why The Hulk exists. It all felt like Ewing was trying too hard to be deep and came up short. Also, Jacquelin McGee did next to nothing the whole series aside from tag along, only to be used as a quick dues ex machina at the end. What a surprise /sneed
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Jewish nonsense from the Kabbalah. It's a branch of mysticism that really attracts psueds because Alister Crowley talked about it once, and Crowley is someone I find fucking hilarious because the minute someone starts talking about that man you can kinda write them off depending on if they talk about him as a spiritual leader or a businessman. Hulk is a branch of the Jewish tree of life or some shit, he's there to clean up messes, blah blah blah dualism blah blah blah.

I prefer where evil doesn't actually have mass of it's own. It's a parasite or corrupted good that's born out of sin. If you go the Divine route then Good doesn't understand Evil initially, I hate niggas who go dualism like the Devil is God's equal when the Devil's job in the majority of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism is to tempt, if you fall it's on you. So yeah, Banner and Leader being related is so we can have more basic bitch dualism.
 
AirdropShitposts said:
Kid Karnevil, who was a member of the Fourth Reich and posed as the All-American Boy, is who you're thinking of.
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i liked him because he was kind of a fun little fucking psycho.


Water-T said:
I loved the book, but I did not get the finale at all. What does the Leader's ancestor have to do with the current situation? Was it implying that The One Below IS also The One Above? I did not understand his answer to the Hulk about why The Hulk exists. It all felt like Ewing was trying too hard to be deep and came up short. Also, Jacquelin McGee did next to nothing the whole series aside from tag along, only to be used as a quick dues ex machina at the end. What a surprise /sneed
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feels like the author's being pretentious again ngl.
BeepBoopBeepBoop said:
Jewish nonsense from the Kabbalah. It's a branch of mysticism that really attracts psueds because Alister Crowley talked about it once, and Crowley is someone I find fucking hilarious because the minute someone starts talking about that man you can kinda write them off depending on if they talk about him as a spiritual leader or a businessman. Hulk is a branch of the Jewish tree of life or some shit, he's there to clean up messes, blah blah blah dualism blah blah blah.

I prefer where evil doesn't actually have mass of it's own. It's a parasite or corrupted good that's born out of sin. If you go the Divine route then Good doesn't understand Evil initially, I hate niggas who go dualism like the Devil is God's equal when the Devil's job in the majority of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism is to tempt, if you fall it's on you. So yeah, Banner and Leader being related is so we can have more basic bitch dualism.
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i don't mind this "mystical" explanation for hulk's shit or the dualism, i just hope it's not heralded as a 10/10 run for this sorta forced dualism/symbolism stuff
 
BeepBoopBeepBoop said:
Jewish nonsense from the Kabbalah. It's a branch of mysticism that really attracts psueds because Alister Crowley talked about it once, and Crowley is someone I find fucking hilarious because the minute someone starts talking about that man you can kinda write them off depending on if they talk about him as a spiritual leader or a businessman.
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I like my mysticism and shit like that, but I never understood the fascination with Crowley. Is it entirely English thing? One of us so we gotta pretend that he is relevant?
 
GranDuke said:
I like my mysticism and shit like that, but I never understood the fascination with Crowley. Is it entirely English thing? One of us so we gotta pretend that he is relevant?
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crowley is in the milieu of recognizable "mystics" because he was the evilest man in europe or sth.

anyways he's less evil than most lefty UK politicians now.
 
Batman - The Long Halloween Special was alright. I didn't feel the same as Captain America White, where the writing of Loeb was good but the art by Tim Sale was fucking terrible.

I remember almost nothing of the original Long, but when I read it, it was my favorite batman story
 
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