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i don't because i actually like the majority of what tom taylor wrote.
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GranDuke
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No, Tom Taylor is simply very invested in the current Jon book (he signed exclusive with DC recently) and it is pretty much his responsibility to make him work.
If adult Jon succeeds then it is likely to be Taylor's legacy, if he flops then it likely will be Taylor's legacy as well. Not that surprising that he is super defensive about his Superman work.
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I just want Marvel to do a MC2 that wasn't purely retarded on the concept of world building. I'd love for Marvel's society to have cops with powers running around and the X-Men to be that group that lost purpose because they accomplished their goals. IRL what happens with minority rights groups is you get grifters living off the good will of the previous movement, Booker T. Washington saw this and most Civil Rights "icons" that still survive are grifters who need to stir up trouble to survive. Modern Marvel would never do that, but I'd just want X-Men having to deal with the Mansion loosing funding and support because better alternatives start popping up/ anti-telepathic technology makes it to market and Xavier can't manipulate donors and kids into coming to his school.
It's fucking boring for Marvel to never really let it's setting evolve. Marvel citizens are retards only because people literally have otherworldly powers and they have no system to deal with it after like 15 years in universe. Worse is that writers keep retconning shit further and further back in history. Some random hero in the 17th century will likely be chalked up to tall tales, but when you have secret societies mind wiping everyone every 5 years it's boring. Worse is the hyper-liberal mentality of writers to destroy any interesting setting. Can't have a slaver society because writing about it means your somehow supporting slavery, can't explore a monarchy for the same reasons.
Generally, the X-Men are like a conjoined twin that's trying to rip the shared spine of it's twin out. I really blame the editorial office because the Avengers and Spider-Man prior to the early 2000's they played ball pretty well. X-Men really never wanted to co-exist, they made it harder and refused to let other Offices use characters. Literally anytime a crossover happened in the early 2000's it was a mutant complaining about how the Avengers never helped them. I actually liked Uncanny Avengers because it looked like there was going to a diversity of opinions. Sunfire didn't give a shit about American racial relations and wanted to be a volcel in peace, Rogue was a hardline Xavier fanatic, Wanda (still a mutant, fuck the retcons) was tired of being the bad guy, Wolverine is just a guy, and Havoc wanted to exist outside of the paradigm of mutant and human. Cue Bendis using his Jewish, Upper Class waifu to tell everyone how wrong Havoc was for not being classified by a gay codename and his status as a minority.
I do like the aspect that mutants are hated in Marvel for being a testable form of superhuman. You can scrutinize them and identify them. Combine that with Magento being a dickhead and you have someone to blame. I just wish they'd stop going full allegory and just let being a mutant be applicable to the odd ones out. If they can't just have people develop random ass powers.
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Gerard Jones turning out to be a creep should have been not so much of a surprise, and it certain taints his work, like the series he co-wrote with Will Jacobs, the satirical action comic The Trouble With Girls , about Lester Girls, unwilling trouble and woman magnet who keeps getting mixed up with wild adventures and wild women thanks to a family curse, when all he wants to do is settle down to a quiet suburban life, married to a plain woman and have plenty of time to read.
It was published via Malibu, then Comico, and then Marvel's Epic imprint. Of course, for the most part it comes off as a mild satire of almost everything around in comics in the late 80s and early 90s. Though in the wake of events, a few moments might make a person go "hmm."
"A naked adult woman? Yuck!"
It was published via Malibu, then Comico, and then Marvel's Epic imprint. Of course, for the most part it comes off as a mild satire of almost everything around in comics in the late 80s and early 90s. Though in the wake of events, a few moments might make a person go "hmm."
"A naked adult woman? Yuck!"
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Among other finds I made over the past year was a crossover mini from First Comics, featuring Max Allan Collins' hardboiled PI Ms. Tree (get it?) and Mike Mauser, whose character had gone on a long, strange trip from his creation. A short, stubbly private eye with deplorable eating habit who packed a pistol he shared a name with (the classic broomhandle Mauser), he'd started out as a sidekick to Nicola Cuti and Joe Staton's superhero character E-Man at Charlton Comics, never meant to be more than a sidekick in a lighthearted superhero series but he sort of took on a life of his own. getting his own backup feature in Charlton's short-lived PI series Vengeance Squad. These were hard-boiled-ish detective stories played mostly straight. It wasn't until the 80s that E-Man and Mike returned at First, and then came this crossover in '85.
The other part of the equation in this crossover is Ms. Michael(yes, a woman named Michael) Tree, created by Collins and Terry Beatty. Originally appearing at Eclipse Enterprises, the series went to being published for awhile at Aardvark-Vanaheim, then being co-published with Renegade Press and at the time of the crossover was solely being published by Renegade. After 50 issues, Ms. Tree returned as a quarterly mag published by DC for ten more issues, and she's made an appearance now and then, including a novel from Collins published by Hard Case Books.
Collins made no bones about his inspiration, what if Velda, pistol-packing secretary/partner to Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer, married Hammer and he was killed on their wedding night?
This is what happens, ex-policewoman Michael Friday takes up hard-boiled detective Mike Tree on his offer to join his new detective agency. After awhile, they get married but he's gunned down on their honeymoon. She takes over the agency and discovers who ordered the murder, setting in motion her vendetta against gangster Dominic Muerta and his 'family', which involves wreaking violent havoc and having to shoot more than a few people, but not without some serious consequences, including arrest, a prison sentence, involuntary medication and even a stay in the nuthouse. Besides all that, she took on various other cases involving serial killers, missing children, child molesters, crooked cops, and the rest. It is perhaps the longest running PI book in American comics.
For the sake of the crossover, Mike Mauser has relocated to Chicago from NYC, while Tree Investigations happens to have rented out an office in the floor above his, a temporary move after Ms. Tree's offices were bombed in her series.
Then, a married couple independently make their ways to each PI to hire them for the old "surveill my spouse to see if they're unfaithful" job, the Kirbys are big comics fans who were originally brought together via their comics fandom but have hit a rough patch.
Mauser's end of the investigation leads him to a comics dealer we later learn has one of the biggest inventories in the Chicago area, and he might be involved in shady business (a sleazy comic shop owner, get out of here!)
So reluctantly, the Two Mikes team up to protect their clients, who despite how it looks just happened to be on scene with innocent purpose - a sort of Gift of the Magi scenario - when a guy who'd had some beef with them but was still willing to do business was gunned down. Later, The PIs are checking out the scene of the crime only to discover some ski-masked gentlemen loading up boxes of merchandise, which they end up foiling, somewhat.
The one thief they caught later ends up murdered by a masked freak dressed up like something out of a comic book, and their case leads them to tracking down the real killer at a comic convention.
The other part of the equation in this crossover is Ms. Michael(yes, a woman named Michael) Tree, created by Collins and Terry Beatty. Originally appearing at Eclipse Enterprises, the series went to being published for awhile at Aardvark-Vanaheim, then being co-published with Renegade Press and at the time of the crossover was solely being published by Renegade. After 50 issues, Ms. Tree returned as a quarterly mag published by DC for ten more issues, and she's made an appearance now and then, including a novel from Collins published by Hard Case Books.
Collins made no bones about his inspiration, what if Velda, pistol-packing secretary/partner to Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer, married Hammer and he was killed on their wedding night?
This is what happens, ex-policewoman Michael Friday takes up hard-boiled detective Mike Tree on his offer to join his new detective agency. After awhile, they get married but he's gunned down on their honeymoon. She takes over the agency and discovers who ordered the murder, setting in motion her vendetta against gangster Dominic Muerta and his 'family', which involves wreaking violent havoc and having to shoot more than a few people, but not without some serious consequences, including arrest, a prison sentence, involuntary medication and even a stay in the nuthouse. Besides all that, she took on various other cases involving serial killers, missing children, child molesters, crooked cops, and the rest. It is perhaps the longest running PI book in American comics.
Then, a married couple independently make their ways to each PI to hire them for the old "surveill my spouse to see if they're unfaithful" job, the Kirbys are big comics fans who were originally brought together via their comics fandom but have hit a rough patch.
Mauser's end of the investigation leads him to a comics dealer we later learn has one of the biggest inventories in the Chicago area, and he might be involved in shady business (a sleazy comic shop owner, get out of here!)
So reluctantly, the Two Mikes team up to protect their clients, who despite how it looks just happened to be on scene with innocent purpose - a sort of Gift of the Magi scenario - when a guy who'd had some beef with them but was still willing to do business was gunned down. Later, The PIs are checking out the scene of the crime only to discover some ski-masked gentlemen loading up boxes of merchandise, which they end up foiling, somewhat.
The one thief they caught later ends up murdered by a masked freak dressed up like something out of a comic book, and their case leads them to tracking down the real killer at a comic convention.
Adam Hughes and Alan Davis. Shame Hughes especially did so much of this. He made the right decision, going to work on Justice League International.
For another what the fuck, go luck up soul searchers.
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Hard Case Crime has also started reprinting the Ms. Tree comics. Three volumes so far, and there's a fourth one on the way.
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He seems to be a just a mediocre writer. Dceased and Injustice are both incredibly underwhelming plot wise with most of the mileage being that the reader already cares about the heroes and in universe all the characters have history. This isn't to say he can't write good emotional moments or narratives just that it's easier to have those moments for capeshit than in anything else and everything I've read from him seems to peter out incredibly quickly.I wanted to gauge people's opinions on Tom Taylor.
I'm just asking because he recently attempted to roast noted lolcow Jeremy or the Quartering over the latter's comments on Superman: Son of Kal-El on Facebook. TLR, Tommy-boy is making claims that his Special Ed Superman title is seventh on the Amazon best-seller list (comics wise) and a best-seller on Comixology. However, he doesn't back it up with numbers as DC distributor, Lunar, and Amazon do not disclose units shipped/sold. It made me wonder, if Tom Taylor is such a big deal, then why is he even giving a neck bearded fool like Jeremy the time of day?
Then I looked at Jeremy's channel. He has 1.18M followers and I have seen his videos get as high as 400K views in the last few weeks. Could it be that the great Tom Taylor is butthurt that a seeming nobody can get more eyes on his videos than Tommy-boy can for his shitty comic? My opinion of Tom Taylor is that he is a mediocre-to-shit writer who is easily the most overrated in the industry. Hell, I just watch Arris at Variant Comics or Rob at Comics Explained if I want to know what's happening with DCeased.
Frankly, I see some lolcow potential in him if he's going all Mark "King Baby" Waid on Jeremy. For all his bluster and the comics media backing his books get, it must sting knowing that more people would rather watch an idiot with a camera than read your shitty book.
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Sandman is pretentious garbage.
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i liked it as a teen, but it's really overrated.
the twitterite fans are the worst
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When people ask me how I can hate Hal Jordan... mostly because of crap like this. That, and compared to Guy, John and Kyle, he's boring as hell.
Steel was literally so popular he got a movie that was supposed to tie into a planned Superman movie... at least before it turned into a vanity project for Shaquille O'Neal.
Steel was popular enough, had a 50 plus issue run that sold well, perennially popped up in Superman titles, and was even a JLA member. He was an interesting character - middle aged black tech bro Tony Stark when Tony Stark was still a defense contractor.
You know how the New 52 desperately tried to turn Cyborg into the Justice League's tech guy/diversity hire who could support his own title and failed fprnthe entire 2010s? Steel did exactly that in the 90s without even trying to be that.
He probably would have remained a DC staple if he hadn't been tossed out with all the other 90s stuff during editorial changeover in the early 2000s.
As for Aquaman, Peter David's run in the 90s is considered one of the best modern runs on the character... pre New 52, it was the ONLY good modern run with the character.
Aquaman was one of the few characters who really benefited in the past decade until Kelly Sue DeConnick sank the comic.
If you ever want to know how influential 90s Aquaman was, just watch the movie. Stick a hook on Jason Momoa's hand, and hes the Peter David Aquaman.
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Nice to see the so called "Loli defense" has gone from being used by neckbeard weebs to mainstream creators trying to justify themselves.
Gee it's almost like hiring an SJW manbaby who insists on retconing the son of Superman (aka the nu Superman) into Being a gay boy who marches for climate and racial justice was a terrible idea. There's a reason the joke DC stands for dying comics caught on so fast...this is that reason. Only time will tell when it goes from dying to dead.
Even the dumbest of that decade from electric Blue Superman to the Spider-Man clone saga will never reach the lows the industry has sunken too in current year, hell that least you can look back on crap like that and laugh at how popular it was, like looking at a yearbook photo when you ridiculous hair and clothes.
Well I just went and depressed myself.
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I honestly hate detective shit in comics where it's some perpetually rainy city and the entire thing is a tongue-in-check joke about old hardboiled detective stories. Calvin and Hobbes did the best parody of that and police/detective procedurals are literally the bread and butter of so many shitty writers. Weirder is the meme of internal affairs being some subhuman department that solely exists to trouble the main characters, fucking hell SVU is the pinnacle of this where officers break and bend the law to the point where it's literally an abuse of authority and power.
I stopped caring about Fantasy and SciFi in the West a while ago. People really are shilling shit like a black lesbian becomes a single mother to an alien that is effectively just a black kid with ESP. Black guys can write good fiction, Black women are shilled despite having negative fucking talent. I can count the black women who've wrote good fiction on one hand and most of those are weebs who do hentai.
Sandman is for people who didn't grow up reading myths and scary stories, my mom didn't watch me when she was studying at the library when she went back to school. Irish myth is pretty cool, but degenerate. A goddess pisses a river before a battle and the main hero fucks his female teacher and her daughter. All of the African and Native American myths aren't really that cool, it's mostly my OC is so strong and clever. I don't understand why people like Gaiman, I assume he's shilled by that cult he's apart of.
I stopped caring about Fantasy and SciFi in the West a while ago. People really are shilling shit like a black lesbian becomes a single mother to an alien that is effectively just a black kid with ESP. Black guys can write good fiction, Black women are shilled despite having negative fucking talent. I can count the black women who've wrote good fiction on one hand and most of those are weebs who do hentai.
Sandman is for people who didn't grow up reading myths and scary stories, my mom didn't watch me when she was studying at the library when she went back to school. Irish myth is pretty cool, but degenerate. A goddess pisses a river before a battle and the main hero fucks his female teacher and her daughter. All of the African and Native American myths aren't really that cool, it's mostly my OC is so strong and clever. I don't understand why people like Gaiman, I assume he's shilled by that cult he's apart of.
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Confusing shit.iirc they were gonna reprint all of the Gerard Jones Justice League stuff until he got arrested for uh. . .
Gerard Jones Sentenced to 6 Years in Jail on Child Pornography Charges
Gerard Jones, long-standing comic book writer, was sentenced yesterday by a San Francisco court to six years in federal prison on child pornography charges.bleedingcool.com
. . . for child porn charges ofc.
apparently DC ain't gonna print his stuff? It's a shame because Green Lantern: Mosaic was a fun idea, his JLA stuff had interesting moments, his Martian Manhunter stuff was decentish iirc, and whatnot.
THough I do wonder if any pedophilic shit is in his old work now that I think about it.
While they did cancel a JLI trade (Breakdowns; which was a 15 part crossover between Justice League America, written by Keith Giffen and Justice League Europe, which Jones wrote), it was Jones's Green Lantern run that DC had begun the process of reprinting in full before he got busted for child porn. They managed to get two trades out (one reprinting the two flashback "Year One" type minis Emerald Dawn I and II, of which Jones wrote the second half of ED 1 and all of ED 2 and the second reprinting the first 12 issues of the 90s Green Lantern series) before the line was killed due to his legal troubles.
That wasn't Jones. Steve Englehart wrote the run of issues (Green Lantern Corps #201-224) that had Hal date Arrisa, who was introduced as a pre-teen Green Lantern years prior but had been aged up to adulthood (physically at least) to date Hal and who Englehart, realizing the implications of what he carelessly did, later retconned as coming from a race where everyone is long lived and retroactively made Arrisa her species' equivalent 18 years old after the fact.
Christopher Priest wrote Arrisa out in the Action Comics Weekly Green Lantern run (she became a professional model) and Jones himself, granted midway through his run, depossessed Carol Ferris of the Star Sapphire persona and had her and Hal reunite.
Good if you stop at the end of the Surtur storyline. Afterwards it just meanders about as Simonson had no idea where to go after that.
Also Executioner's death is one of those cases where a guy writes a storyline for a bad character to make you care for them when the die. Skurge was a forever simp who Enchantress dickteased MERCILESSLY for the evilulz because Skurge loved her and would do anything bad she asked him to do, culminating in him getting kicked out of Asgard because of her manipulations. Simonson basically gave him a heroic sacrifice death after having him reach rock bottom, which hit with fans in a way that writers kept him dead for decades until they finally brought him back a couple of years back in a Guardians of the Galaxy spin-off book.
DC reprints from 1976 through 1997 are kind of super fucked due to royalty issues. During that time period, DC has a rule in place if books sold x-number of copies, the writer/artist gets royalties on the material. It's why reprints for DC works in the late 70s and the 80s and 90s are so fucked; as they basically have to pay creators more than they would for work before or after that period unless the creator renegotiates their deal to take less money.
It's one of the chief reasons the Showcase Presents line died out as they reached the point where any volumes would require renegotiation and this led to a number of titles not being allowed reprints in the Showcase line and why some books (Suicide Squad and Who's Who) got canceled and never released.
Also (and I should have mentioned this in a previous post about Gerald Jones); DC's workaround for reprinting Gerald Jones' DC work is to not put his name on the cover or advertise it with his name. They've done several volumes reprinting the Dan Vado JLA run with Vado and Mark Waid's name being on the cover and solicitations even though it includes issues of Justice League Europe (when it was rebranded Justice League International in it's final two years of existence). Same with the JLI omnibuses, as they put Keith Giffen's name on the front and don't mention Jones and (allegedly) why Christopher Priest's Justice League Task Force hasn't been reprinted yet, as far as DC allegedly wanting to mix it in with the last two years of Jones' JLA run for future reprints so they can sell it entirely off of Priest's name.
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I wonder if they will retroactively credit him as Christopher Priest instead of James Owsley
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He had already switched over to the name Christopher Priest by the early 90s and used that name on his mid-90s DC work, like JLTF.
Also, Marvel still credits him as Owsley on his pre-name change work.
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I'm not sure that I understand, Isn't entire Ostrander's SS run collected in trades? And Who's Who is collected in two omnibuses.
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Suicide Squad was one of the most requested Showcase Presents volumes and one was solicited for mid-00s but got canceled, because royalties were deemed too damned high for the pre-orders they received so it was canceled. TWICE. They solicited it several times but each time they canceled it because they needed to sell X number of copies to break even on royalties Ostrander and the artists had to be paid.
Finally, in the early 10s, they decided to renegotiate the royalties so Ostrander and the main artist for the run (Luke McDonnell) so the two would get less money royalties to compensate DC for expected low sales for the trades. At which point, the decision was made to just release the series as a regular TPB line. Only a SINGLE volume came out before DC killed the trade series due to poor sales. And didn't bother trying again until the first Suicide Squad film came out, at which point DC FINALLY released the entire series in TPB format.
Adding to this, Who's Who was also announced for the Showcase Presents line in the late 00s and it got spiked from getting release due to the royalties that would have to be paid for the artists being too much to justify for a book that most likely wouldn't sell well enough for DC to make a profit. They only just now released it as an omnibus and at the highest price point allowed for an omnibus at that, meaning that they had to overcharge for it to justify releasing it and making money off of it.
They've done most of that already. Going back to the first Roy Thomas run, there have been multiple periods where the X-Men are without the mansion or school or Xavier's trust fund and have to struggle to survive, though in the Outback and Kelly/Seagle runs, you had the X-Men finding room and board with a defeated super-villain lair or Archangel basically funding the group per the off-camera plot point of Warren regaining control over his family fortune after being declared dead.
Also, you had in the 80s the Hellfire Club and Emma Frost as a rival to the X-Men in the recruitment/ideology department which got pissed away when they made Emma a good guy. Which Emma actually doing mental manipulation to get kids to go to the Massachusetts Academy.
Also the "where where you when X happen" shit only happened in the MID 00s, not early 00s and was pushed by asshats who simped for Emma as the new Xavier. In general, the X-Men and Spider-Man franchises were the moneymakers for Marvel in the 80s and 90s, but Claremont was notoriously prickly about sharing shit and would only agree to crossovers if it involved the Simonsons, Nocenti, or if Shooter forced him to (as in the case of Secret Wars II).
Only two X-Men appeared in Infinity Gauntlet (Wolverine and Cyclops) and the X-Men were explicitly stated to have not died when the snap happened (being off-world in a never shown noodles event type adventure that took place immediately following the Xtinction Agenda but before the X-Men, Wolverine included, were teleported to Shi'Ar space to overthrow Deathbird) and Jean, Warren, Bobby, and Hank the only confirmed snap victims, though Excalibur and New Mutants were MIA entirely during Infinity Gauntlet.
Crossover tie-ins were few in Infinity Gauntlet because no one had much faith it would be a big thing, hence why War and Crusade had a TON of them. But while there were no X-Men family crossover issues, BOTH War and Crusade were written to put the X-Men in major roles in the main series. X-Factor and the X-Men played major roles in Infinity War with Havok and Polaris BOTH playing major roles in the final battle and Xavier/Jean Grey also given a major subplot. Meanwhile Infinity Crusade gave Storm a major role in the narrative as one of the Goddess's top brainwashed henchmen.
X-Men played a central role in the next major company wide crossover (Onslaught) and later in the next ones (Maximum Security and House of M) and Wolverine's Civil War tie-ins had him go after Nitro. The X-Men Civil War tie-in mini-series meanwhile was a stealth sequel to the 198, which itself was a stealth sequel to David Hines's District X and wrapped up loose ends from both books.
But in general, the isolation of the X-Men comes at the price of Marvel not wanting the rest of the super hero community bailing the X-Men out along with the toxic SJW types who want Emma and Scott to be smug and fix everything wrong with mutantkind themselves. The only reason we have crossovers with Empyre and King In Black, is that Marvel realized fans were waiting for the Krakoa era to be "erased" via Moira's plot erasing power and had to insert them into it to joss that notion that Krakoa won't last because no one else was referencing it.
As for Taylor, he's long been reviled as a franchise killing hack. His work on Injustice is ground zero for everything that went wrong with Harley Quinn and her becoming a toxic Mary sue character (as Taylor REPEATEDLY had DC heroes defend and white knight her, even though she was a willing and EAGER partner in Joker's plan to break Superman by murdering Lois and everyone in Metropolis and has show ZERO remorse for her crimes of mass murder).
He also raped and killed New 52 Earth 2, which started out strong with James Robinson creating a new incarnation of the classic JSA on a world where Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman were dead but Taylor wanted a Batman book on Earth 2 (featuring a Thomas Wayne Batman, because Flashpoint had made Thomas Wayne Batman popular with casuals) and REFUSED to work with Robinson and got Robinson forced out as Taylor ALSO wanted an evil Superman story, due to him being hyper butt-hurt over fans shitting on Injustice.
So he took over Earth 2, crashing sales to the toilet as the JSA were shoved into the background and the book became all about Thomas Wayme, Dick Grayson, Barbara Gordon, Lois Lane (who Taylor brought back by putting her brain into a female Red Tornado body), and Black Superman replacement that was fighting an evil Zombie Earth 2 Superman who worked for Darkseid. He killed one of the few DECENT New 52 books so gruesomely, that DC ended up having to destroy Earth 2 itself and move the survivors to an alien world which they terraformed into a duplicate of pre-war New 52 Earth 2 as a last minute deal to try and salvage shit only for Taylor to have irrevocably fucking shit up.
His rape of New 52 Earth 2 alone makes him one if not THE most reviled writers in comics today, but combined with him making Jonathon Ken gay (purely to further fuck over Superman, a character and franchise Taylor has shown to DESPISE with a passion) and Injustice? It makes him one of the worst human beings in comics because EVERY DC BOOK HE WRITES, Taylor goes out of his way to scorch earth Superman out of an absolute Lex Luthorian hatred for the character and everything he stands for. He makes John Byrne's hate boner for Vision seem mild in comparison.
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My point was more that the X-Men never really struggle within the setting to fund themselves or run a school. It's handwaived and something a lot of the writers for western comics don't dare elaborate on because finance is assumed uninteresting (Peter David learned the hard way to pay attention to it). I unironically find black ops shit and killing some world conqueror boring. Superheros were always more about the mundane meeting the spectacular or fantastical. The inherent idea of Spider-Man being a guy who got powers and tried to make money is apart of that. I'd actually love if Daredevil or She-Hulk was more or less about characters trying to patent shit, superhero lawsuits, or superhuman legislation. Marvel and DC really don't indulge in their setting. Shit like Raildex (yeah one guy, but one guy vs a company) does a good job of being creative with powers and actually developing a setting that kind of makes sense.
A lot of the events were sparse prior to Infinity Gauntlet, that is true, but smaller crossovers were fairly good because Shooter probably is the only person in the industry who knows what nerds actually like. X-Men and Spider-Man were always crossed over with a pretty formulaic standard, hero pops into story > misunderstanding > fight > resolution to team-up > bad guy is beat up in unsatisfying action scene. Spider-Man flexing on the X-Men was always great though and it was followed up by Prof. X casually being an evil bastard. Heroes Reborn is the dark era of the 90's and I remember being a kid saying what the fuck is this art and coloring. Civil War was when certain writers like JMS and Peter David would fuck with one writer because they were unhappy they had to share their toys. I don't hate Mark Millar, but I find his stuff the worst kind of edgefest. The early 2000's with Marvel was really editors and creative leads not communicating to actually do a good crossover.
Krakoa is Utopia again. It was fine in Dark Reign (I fucking love how Marvel thought McCain was going to win and the result was in universe Black President gave a wigger on meth power). I just hate how people on comic forums actually like it by saying that "It's fan service all the characters are back and written so good!" They aren't it's like when the three characters I liked from New X-Men are written out of character, made gay for no other reason than being gay, or in the background of a shot. Like I find the entire thing of the X-Men being hated and feared fucking boring if it's just racism instead of them being feared because they're guys with knife hands and hated because all their telepaths are immoral assholes who can't stop mindraping people.
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I think the Krakoa era would have worked best as a thing like right before/after AvX when the status of mutants was a limited number but also uncertain it'd grow. Krakoa era popping now just doesn't have the narrative weight for anything. Like shit happens but it's kinda just nu-marvel being neutered every time something interesting comes up.
all it's done now is succeed in making Xavier more or a less worse than Magneto in some ways.
I think the Krakoa era would have worked best as a thing like right before/after AvX when the status of mutants was a limited number but also uncertain it'd grow. Krakoa era popping now just doesn't have the narrative weight for anything. Like shit happens but it's kinda just nu-marvel being neutered every time something interesting comes up.
all it's done now is succeed in making Xavier more or a less worse than Magneto in some ways.