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I enjoy the X-Men but I swear to god, they're overhyped and overrated.
My problem is that the X-Men writers basically outright hate being involved in the wider universe. It’s an Us vs Then narrative and the shades of grey proposed are basically always white.

You’d think the evolution of the X-Men is some level of acceptance. Like X-Mansion that’s operated as a model for mutants nationwide with someone like Beast with an Avenger being in charge of the program.
 
Cable was basically nuWolverine for a while (very late '80s, very early '90s), a bad ass soldier with a mysterious past and connections to various characters. I think his popularity tanked as soon as his backstory was revealed. Speaking of, I always preferred the original idea of Stryfe being the real son of Cyclops, and Cable being the clone.
 
My problem is that the X-Men writers basically outright hate being involved in the wider universe. It’s an Us vs Then narrative and the shades of grey proposed are basically always white.

You’d think the evolution of the X-Men is some level of acceptance. Like X-Mansion that’s operated as a model for mutants nationwide with someone like Beast with an Avenger being in charge of the program.
Yeah the funny thing is that, I recall the Busiek/Perez Avengers run having some moments where Beast had fanboys during parades, the other mutant avengers were celebrated, while the younger X-Men were kinda jealous of the attention.

They also had the whole Unity Squadron idea which also worked. It was more of a "bring heroes from all these species/groups together". They did bring them back again recently but rip no Inhuman representative or Eternal rep.

But hey, Evil Steve is back to larp as Captain Krakoa and work for Orchis.



Cable was basically nuWolverine for a while (very late '80s, very early '90s), a bad ass soldier with a mysterious past and connections to various characters. I think his popularity tanked as soon as his backstory was revealed. Speaking of, I always preferred the original idea of Stryfe being the real son of Cyclops, and Cable being the clone.

Liefeld had a premise. I don't think he had much of anything else.
 
I've thought about this article a lot ever since it's been published, and namely I've been very much mulling over how it applies to comics and a big problem they have now:

"We have learned psychology: we know that a person is composed primarily of feelings and experiences. Our feelings determine our experiences, which is why it’s important to be very acutely aware of them. But our experiences can also shape our feelings, and the word for when this happens is trauma. One of the important functions of culture is to give you a better understanding of the feelings and experiences of others. But it can also show you what happens when your feelings and experiences are out of balance, and maybe, just maybe, how to get them in order again.

This system is fine. It provides a minimally coherent account of the human soul; none of these paradigms are really any better or any worse than the others. But it seems obvious that most of the characters created under the aegis of this system do not remotely resemble actual people. You start with the idea that humans are made of named and identifiable feelings, and then conclude that to invent a believable human, you have to stuff those feelings into everything.

I don’t mean that people never do things that are cruel, selfish, weak, petty, and vicious. But I do not think they ever do it in a way that’s so tediously explicable. It’s all far too neat; it all makes far too much sense, this moment on which a person’s entire being is supposed to hang. When actual people act, there’s always an element of the inexplicable at play, the sourceless molten stuff we call human freedom. An abyss in the other, the dark hole of their subjectivity. "

I feel like Moore has sort have engulfed himself into this rabbit hole. His characters, even Rorschach who is designed to have this simple A-B character progression ala a Batman, used to have more mysterious elements. Is this truly what changes him or was he always like this? What are the specific elements that made him *him*? Is he truly a believe in his morality or is it arbitrary? He defends Comedian because he liked the guy, which I think is a deliberate contradiction in order to make him more complex because if he was truly believed in his ideology he would go all the way with it. After all he made this whole point of him hating the people and saying "no" but it's all a front in the end

Now all of Moore's characters are products of pop psychology rather than their experiences, their mind, their matter, their neurosis and even the unknown blackness of the soul. James Bond in the books is a self aware misogynist trying to manage his behavior who hates England for its slow decline but is too jingostic to care, but in the LXG comic he's an innefectual habitual rapist turned King of Britain or whatever who wants to "destroy imagination". I'm sorry but at a certain point you get so sci-fi the character study evaporates. I couldnt tell you if James Bond would destroy the fountain of youth, but I can tell you he wouldnt want to be the leader of anything because the whole point of the character is he's a worn out tool. He's clever and introspective but not really villain material unless you make England itself the villain. Harry Potter gets groomed to be the antichrist, then kills all his friends because they lied about his adventures. Again, he has to contort the characters to fit the themes, but Harry Potter has a ton of negative and jingoistic traits he could've used. Instead he does the pop psychology thing of "le trauma makes him evil", even tho if those experiences were fake the traits these experiences gave him as a person would've prevented him from wanting to do that. The guy already knew in the original books he could potentially turn into Voldemort, he already had an abusive family who lied about his identity, the human brain is resilient to trauma already but especially his brain who doesn't even really care about being the Chosen One wouldn't do this

And I'm not saying this to defend Harry Potter, god no, but his criticism of these properties is based off this weird strawman when the original material gives sooooo much to make fun of. Harry Potter is an ineffectual loser who wont help out literal slaves and needs teachers and friends in order to beat the bad guys for him. James Bond will literally aim a gun at anything foreign because "for England" and basically has life because he's a slave to the state. These are great material for deconstructions but his obsession with psychological realism has ironically made completely unrelatable characters. James Bond and Harry Potter are as two dimensional as Stan Lee's characters but that's intentional: they're made to be relatable and recognizable. We've all known a Peter Parker or Aunt May. Moore either stuffs a ton of feelings into his modern characters in order to make someone who could never exist, or just makes a strawman who actually does resemble someone you could know (a chauvinist who thinks he's smooth or a chav addicted to pills) but it fails to portray the complexity of these rather simple characters because it doesn't dare get in their head like the originals do

Same thing with Quartermain. A hunter with a drug addiction? A guy like that wouldn't be literally rendered incapacitated by his addictions, because for one most people aren't and especially he wouldn't but also people build up drug resistances and if you're a basically immortal fictional character I think you would especially build up resistances

I think I'm just sick of pulp fiction taking it so seriously. We've let writers of Science Fiction and Fantasy who considered "Hemingway" boring for not writing about spaceships try to implement psychology and economics and religious philosophy into funny books while being illiterate commie atheists who think everything is some Freud book they read 40 years ago

Maybe now that he's making a new comic again after saying LXG IV was his retirement he'll actually try this time? Hopefully, he's a smart guy
 
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lmao Rob. Cable may have been a high end B lister at one point. I'll even give you the possibility of maybe edging into being a very low-end A-lister that rode the coats of other characters/teams. But being bigger than Wolverine or Spidey is laughable.
Rob has two problems: 1 is that he is absolutely autistic. If you read his posts, it's pretty clear. The second is that he drew the second highest selling individual issue of all time. That doesn't mean comic fans bought 5 million copies of X-Force, just that stories ordered that many, though he's insistent that they're one in the same despite others from around that time pointing out many copies of X-Force #1 and Jim Lee's X-Men #1 were in the discount bins pretty quickly.

Adding onto this is that he created the concept of X-Force by rebranding New Mutants, and came up with most, if not all (I forget if he used any prior characters in that book or if they were all his designs) of the members, meaning that his ego makes him believe that Cable was once more beloved than Spider-Man, because Todd McFarlane's Spider-Man #1 only sold 2.5 million copies. Pretty sure Wolverine was in X-Men #1 but no Wolverine solo book sold that well, so maybe Rob counts that.

From everyone I've seen talk about him in the industry, he's a genuinely nice dude and very enthusiastic about the craft, but he refuses to let go of his glory days because he believes anyone pointing out that his style has aged badly is also like the comic journalists from the 00s who tried to erase any accomplishments he made and turn him into nothing but a joke. And the fact that only Jim Lee ever sold a book higher than him makes him think he's a better creator than he really was, rather than just a fad who was in the right place at the right time.
 
Rob has two problems: 1 is that he is absolutely autistic. If you read his posts, it's pretty clear. The second is that he drew the second highest selling individual issue of all time. That doesn't mean comic fans bought 5 million copies of X-Force, just that stories ordered that many, though he's insistent that they're one in the same despite others from around that time pointing out many copies of X-Force #1 and Jim Lee's X-Men #1 were in the discount bins pretty quickly.

It's better to look at his sales post collapse. He sold six figures when he came back to the x-books. But.....he got handed a couple of DC books in the Nu52 launch and despite all that sales scamming, he sold 18,000 issues!

So no. Rob didn't move a million copies to actual comic book readers. He maybe sold a tenth of that. Still not bad. The problem is what happened in between.

Years of lazy art in the mid to late 90s as he proceeded to fail at every turn to finish projects he solicited and started. Heroes Reborn? He dipped after six issues on Cap America. The Moore stuff from Awesome people loved? He sat on a fucking script for more than ten years and is still sitting on scripts from that period, after soliciting and fans buying his product, leaving them unfinished. And that's typical. Mark Millar, Terry Moore, Robert Kirman. Rob Liefeld has published hundreds of projects never finishing them, or worse, in the 90s just publishing literal garbage without any concern for quality

Adding onto this is that he created the concept of X-Force by rebranding New Mutants, and came up with most, if not all (I forget if he used any prior characters in that book or if they were all his designs) of the members, meaning that his ego makes him believe that Cable was once more beloved than Spider-Man, because Todd McFarlane's Spider-Man #1 only sold 2.5 million copies. Pretty sure Wolverine was in X-Men #1 but no Wolverine solo book sold that well, so maybe Rob counts that.

He didn't create Cable alone. He's stolen credit owed to Louise Simonson as far as I'm concerned, and let's get real. Rob drew/wrote two year? Two years is what I'm going with of Cable material, less of Deadpool. Those characters are really popular because Marvel turned around and found talented men in the 90s and 00s who did the work, grinding out quality material that made real fans. Not just speculators.

Which is why you can find 90s Extreme comics in .25 bins.

From everyone I've seen talk about him in the industry, he's a genuinely nice dude and very enthusiastic about the craft, but he refuses to let go of his glory days because he believes anyone pointing out that his style has aged badly is also like the comic journalists from the 00s who tried to erase any accomplishments he made and turn him into nothing but a joke. And the fact that only Jim Lee ever sold a book higher than him makes him think he's a better creator than he really was, rather than just a fad who was in the right place at the right time.

Oh, it's fun to see him come out a little toward the last year or so. But, the tragedy is, Liefeld COULD have been something good. he isn't without accomplishment or talent.

Image is probably one of the worst things pre 00's to happen to comics.
 
So I just got inspired to overpay ALPHACORE #1, largely to spite Dick Masterson and Ethan Van Sciver for going full retard on Eric July. I even bought the foil cover edition why because that gimmick kinda sounded cool and I recently just watched a video of a nerd go over the history of gimmick covers. I never owned a Foil Comic I dunno it'll just give it more novelty hopefully when Alphacore winds up in its ultimate location my bookshelf.

But anyhow I was just searching up foil comic covers out of interest and one of the search results wound up being an ad for the Harley Quinn cartoon comic book. And this makes me want to throw up.
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I think this is pretty much as close as western media could get to CP. First off Harley has literally no tits, flat chested. But my creep alert dinged real hard when it came to the height of the characters. They're too short. This is what Vaush would jerk off to if it had a horse.
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Being shorter than 5 heads puts them at kid height. Whereas when Bruce Timm drew fanservice Harley and Ivy look properly proportioned to me.
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He gives them titties, hips. Those look like women. Fuck you Warner Bros for ruining Harley.
 
Among other titles from smaller publishers that I've discovered, or rediscovered and then decided to get into even knowing right away that the series was cut short, was this pleasant diversion published back in 2001, Highway 13 by Les McClane.

College student Rick's uncle passes away and leaves him his car, a 1984 "Hruck Greywolf" built in some obscure Balkan state. Rick quickly discovers the car comes with an extra feature, there's a werewolf named Garth "bound" to it. Soon, they end up travelling around America, helping people out with supernatural problems, like mummies, zombies, mole men, giant crustaceans and such. Other stories involved the misadventures of the "Explorers into Mystery". Years before Rick's paranormal road trips, his uncle John Rogers and his two assistants, had many misadventures while conducting field research for the publication Killington's Road Guide to the Unnatural. A neat little series from Slave Labor Graphics, but alas it was supposed to go to 12 issues but stopped at 10, and yet here I was, buying them up anyways.

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"We have learned psychology: we know that a person is composed primarily of feelings and experiences. Our feelings determine our experiences, which is why it’s important to be very acutely aware of them. But our experiences can also shape our feelings, and the word for when this happens is trauma. One of the important functions of culture is to give you a better understanding of the feelings and experiences of others. But it can also show you what happens when your feelings and experiences are out of balance, and maybe, just maybe, how to get them in order again.

This system is fine. It provides a minimally coherent account of the human soul; none of these paradigms are really any better or any worse than the others. But it seems obvious that most of the characters created under the aegis of this system do not remotely resemble actual people. You start with the idea that humans are made of named and identifiable feelings, and then conclude that to invent a believable human, you have to stuff those feelings into everything.

I don’t mean that people never do things that are cruel, selfish, weak, petty, and vicious. But I do not think they ever do it in a way that’s so tediously explicable. It’s all far too neat; it all makes far too much sense, this moment on which a person’s entire being is supposed to hang. When actual people act, there’s always an element of the inexplicable at play, the sourceless molten stuff we call human freedom. An abyss in the other, the dark hole of their subjectivity. "
Nerdwriter made a video about this long long time ago saying due to all the subjectivity bullshit since 2014 15 media has become a lot more self referential than referring to real life and in that process has lost all value. I think there's an added effect to that in the sense of nobody wants to commit fully to anything, everything is very surface level and uncommitted which leads to shallowness.

Moore was never sucked into this rabbithole, he was the pioneer of this rabbithole. More specifically the pioneer of characters as metaphor, narrative as metaphor which we are seeing in excess today. It's a method which rarely works, the only instance I know of where it works is in pink floyds the wall, even there it feels ridiculously self masturbatory. There's a self referentiality in that itself where the characters/narrative are not real, they're vehicles for a metaphor or in modern day the message effectively meaning they are propaganda, they have to poke the screen and tell you that they're metaphors. Contrasting with older morality tales like faust or exodus where the characters feel real but end up having a much better multidimensional moral to tell than just commie garbage. Exodus even says the same slavery subjugation bad thing as most contemporary self flagellation but it's more nuanced and has a lot more to say than just slavery bad. But a lot of people (Lindsay Ellis) don't like it cause innocent brown people get killed, which is half the point of comeuppance.

Also Alan Moore has an inherent problem which plagues all communists to an extent in that they believe flawed characters are those characters who have an immutable flaw, not something which they developed over time. Everything is sexual impropriety or alcoholism or racism or pedophilia or whatever, they're less character flaws but more inserted into the character to puppet them as three dimensional. Again old morality tales including pulp fiction try to portray character/moral flaws as a more nuanced thing which develops over time and experience, something like rage or misanthropy or greed or whatever. This is partially because they don't believe that people can exist without immutable material flaws and have to have some material flaw due to materialism, instead of having character flaws due to bad experiences. This is why something like the 7 sins matters more because all of them are character flaws which develop over time, they're not monolithic materialistic flaws which you tend to catch instantly like a disease.

This is something pulp writers understood as they wanted to depict a world which imitated our own but was materialistically different, which is also why they were successful. Hopefully we see a return to that.
 
so I watch my oldest friend's kid all the time, and when my nephew was 3 and initially learning to read I was talking to his dad and told him we should get him on some comics because it might be easier for him to start to pick up comprehension skills and be slightly more entertaining than hooked on phonics and dr seuss bullshit. anyways it worked and he loves it, he's 6 and reads actual children's chapter books and shit now but he also likes comic books. I gave his dad my copies of BONE & Dragon Ball (half of the DB volumes were his dad's anyways he gave me years ago) and they got super into BONE and are working their way through Z having finished Dragon Ball together recently. with me, since I'm not with him all the time or whatever we stick mainly to shorter one-off stuff & series that have ongoing plots but chapter by chapter are essentially their own thing. right now we are going through lots of Disney comics, DCAU based Adventures comics, & Archie Sonic. it's pretty cool essentially I just sit there while this kid reads me these comics and does hilarious sound effects and over-acts with shitty character voices (his Batman & his Donald Duck are particularly funny). once we wrap up the series we got going on now, with me he's moving on to Byrne's Superman, the Mirage TMNT, & Usagi Yojimbo, and his pop was talking about getting the omnibuses of Ditko/Lee Spider-Man & Lee/Kirby Fantastic Four and the Pokemon Adventures manga for them to go through. does anyone have any good suggestions for other shit a 6 year old might like? preferably stuff a physical collected edition exists of. content isn't really an issue as long as it's not like the boys or something, his dad tried to read through Hellboy with him because he wanted an excuse to buy all of hellboy and his woman not question his spending a few hundred bucks on comics but his kid was bored as shit with it (which I told him would happen lol) it doesn't have to be particularly good either. Archie Sonic is generally terrible but he's young enough he takes it totally seriously and that makes it entertaining enough for me to power through it. Disney-wise we went through all the Gottfredson Mickey strips, Barks & Rosa's Duck books, the 90s/2000s Duck Avenger books when he was little and have been going through the Fantagraphics published Disney Masters series that's acclaimed foreign Disney comics translated into english but I could go without reading about a single fucking mouse or duck ever again outside of Scrooge for the rest of my life. but I wanted to make a list of some possible shit to buy or have on the backburner because they go through shit super fast at home and I'm running out of suggestions because I've pretty much exhausted my limited knowledge of kids comics & the stuff I liked at his age. and I don't particularly trust current year "kids" comics licensed or not to be anything besides faggot propaganda and I don't want to contribute to that shit.
 
My autism is getting nostalgically obsessed with childhood shit. A few weeks back I was watching Wrestling videos and learning how Vince McMahon ran the WWE (did you know they wanted Mark Henry to go by Silverback???) Now I’m on a comic book kick.
Jim Shooter was absolutely BASED.
 
So I just got inspired to overpay ALPHACORE #1, largely to spite Dick Masterson and Ethan Van Sciver for going full retard on Eric July. I even bought the foil cover edition why because that gimmick kinda sounded cool and I recently just watched a video of a nerd go over the history of gimmick covers. I never owned a Foil Comic I dunno it'll just give it more novelty hopefully when Alphacore winds up in its ultimate location my bookshelf.

But anyhow I was just searching up foil comic covers out of interest and one of the search results wound up being an ad for the Harley Quinn cartoon comic book. And this makes me want to throw up.
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I think this is pretty much as close as western media could get to CP. First off Harley has literally no tits, flat chested. But my creep alert dinged real hard when it came to the height of the characters. They're too short. This is what Vaush would jerk off to if it had a horse.
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Being shorter than 5 heads puts them at kid height. Whereas when Bruce Timm drew fanservice Harley and Ivy look properly proportioned to me.
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He gives them titties, hips. Those look like women. Fuck you Warner Bros for ruining Harley.

A reminder that Arkham Harley 1 went from a D cup to an A cup magically, 2. canonically went from being pure evil and in love with the joker to being a morally dubious dyke with Ivy (without any actual evidence of a sexual relationship in the games and Harley literally screwed Ivy over at the end with Knight), 3. she is the one that kills Arkham Batman.

Fuck Warners and Rocksteady.

My autism is getting nostalgically obsessed with childhood shit. A few weeks back I was watching Wrestling videos and learning how Vince McMahon ran the WWE (did you know they wanted Mark Henry to go by Silverback???) Now I’m on a comic book kick.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TdUtdZl67AkJim Shooter was absolutely BASED.

Based Jim banned outright portrayals of homosexuality in Marvel Comics geared to youth and Teens.

Amazing.
 
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Shooter has a blog somewhere where he detailed his experiences in the comics industry. It has a very obvious bias that makes him always look like a genius but it was still a good read.

From what I remember of his articles, he talked about how DC employees were professional and treated their job as an actual job, whereas Marvel was filled with dirty hippies who'd wander in and out of the office whenever they pleased and treated deadlines as suggestions. When Shooter took charge he changed that and forced Marvel's writers and artists to start acting more professionally and they never forgave him for that.

Jim Shooter's reign was definitely the last truly great era for Marvel. A shame his bid for Marvel failed in the '90s, he might've actually been able to turn shit around for them.
 
Shooter has a blog somewhere where he detailed his experiences in the comics industry. It has a very obvious bias that makes him always look like a genius but it was still a good read.

He does. I especially love his sections on the 90s. Defiant, Valiant and Broadway. I loved those comics and its a shame more people don't know about Broadway and Defiant.

From what I remember of his articles, he talked about how DC employees were professional and treated their job as an actual job, whereas Marvel was filled with dirty hippies who'd wander in and out of the office whenever they pleased and treated deadlines as suggestions. When Shooter took charge he changed that and forced Marvel's writers and artists to start acting more professionally and they never forgave him for that.

Jim Shooter's reign was definitely the last truly great era for Marvel. A shame his bid for Marvel failed in the '90s, he might've actually been able to turn shit around for them.

I agree and would add people who praise Joe Q as an EiC on Jim's level are crazy.
 
Shooter has a blog somewhere where he detailed his experiences in the comics industry. It has a very obvious bias that makes him always look like a genius but it was still a good read.

From what I remember of his articles, he talked about how DC employees were professional and treated their job as an actual job, whereas Marvel was filled with dirty hippies who'd wander in and out of the office whenever they pleased and treated deadlines as suggestions. When Shooter took charge he changed that and forced Marvel's writers and artists to start acting more professionally and they never forgave him for that.

Jim Shooter's reign was definitely the last truly great era for Marvel. A shame his bid for Marvel failed in the '90s, he might've actually been able to turn shit around for them.
If I remember correctly, a lot of the Marvel creatives at the time got really petty and turned the New Universe into a mess. They also nuked Jim Shooter's hometown of Pittsburg in a big New Universe event.

Shame, because he was an effective editor. I dunno why so many creatives were prima donnas.
He does. I especially love his sections on the 90s. Defiant, Valiant and Broadway. I loved those comics and its a shame more people don't know about Broadway and Defiant.



I agree and would add people who praise Joe Q as an EiC on Jim's level are crazy.
I think the early half of Valiant's original run is largely enjoyable.
 
If I remember correctly, a lot of the Marvel creatives at the time got really petty and turned the New Universe into a mess. They also nuked Jim Shooter's hometown of Pittsburg in a big New Universe event.
Yeah, New Universe was definitely a shit show. It's hard to tell what really happened with that mess, everyone blames everyone else, though I'm sure we'll get someone in here telling us how the story they heard is the true and honest definitive version of what happened. I remember Shooter placing a lot of blame on Tom DeFalco, saying he wasted a ton of time and resources coming up with nothing more than Speedball, who ended up a regular Marvel character anyway.
 
@Georgio Cocklord i'd like to watch that nerdwriter vid if you can find it. i think that comment is super interesting tho its not necessarily what i was going for, whats pulp stuff would u recommend to me?

As for pulp I would recommend you to explore in general. Start with Robert e Howard and Philip k dick and research about pulp writers to go from there cause each one specialized indifferent things, Dashiell Hammett wrote crime stuff from a communist lens, Ed McBain wrote police procedurals. Howard wrote all about the age maturation process, aristocratic attitudes, xenophobia, fate/destiny and some other stuff while making it very action focused. Philip k dick wrote sci fi satire, he is one of the most copied writers in Hollywood history which is enough credit to his work. One of his short story collections I have has a lengthy intro,I'll try to post this once I get on the computer, where he explains sci fi at least back then was a genre focused on predicting the future so people wrote sci fi based on contemporary attitudes and future tech such that it felt like something which could happen 20 years ahead.

Comics as a genre grew out of pulp at least in the west and a lot of its writing was dumbed down for children since pulp was meant for teens and YAs. It wasn't too complex and that complexity was something introduced in the silver age by people like Denny o Neil and Neal Adams. Today it just feels like dumb fighting stories at best, retarded sperging at worst.
 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ukk5TJL27pE
As for pulp I would recommend you to explore in general. Start with Robert e Howard and Philip k dick and research about pulp writers to go from there cause each one specialized indifferent things, Dashiell Hammett wrote crime stuff from a communist lens, Ed McBain wrote police procedurals. Howard wrote all about the age maturation process, aristocratic attitudes, xenophobia, fate/destiny and some other stuff while making it very action focused. Philip k dick wrote sci fi satire, he is one of the most copied writers in Hollywood history which is enough credit to his work. One of his short story collections I have has a lengthy intro,I'll try to post this once I get on the computer, where he explains sci fi at least back then was a genre focused on predicting the future so people wrote sci fi based on contemporary attitudes and future tech such that it felt like something which could happen 20 years ahead.

Comics as a genre grew out of pulp at least in the west and a lot of its writing was dumbed down for children since pulp was meant for teens and YAs. It wasn't too complex and that complexity was something introduced in the silver age by people like Denny o Neil and Neal Adams. Today it just feels like dumb fighting stories at best, retarded sperging at worst.
I also would recommend Raymond Chandler for anyone who would like to peek at hard-boiled detective stories.

You also can't go wrong with getting a few Doc Savage/The Shadow stories under your belt @BetterFuckChuck . They're probably the biggest names under the "proto-superhero" subgenre of pulps. I also enjoyed The Avenger stories as well.
 
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