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isnt she venom now? imagine the stds. though i doubt its for real and amazing has never been good in your lifetime and never will.
 
They been giving spoilers about the chapter for #18 and even beyond.

But still no word on this chapter or previews or art over what to expect.

Since no "Ulimate FF" remake has been announced.

I don't get why they not giving moar details on this one.


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Too little too late. We all know she's not going to get back with Peter, they'll just give us some other convoluted reason the pairing that worked for several decades just can't work because the writers are too lazy to think of something to do with MJ besides being just Peter's girlfriend/wife.

She might even end up back with this douche in a couple of months anyway.
 
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MrJokerRager said:
They been giving spoilers about the chapter for #18 and even beyond.

But still no word on this chapter or previews or art over what to expect.

Since no "Ulimate FF" remake has been announced.

I don't get why they not giving moar details on this one.


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Ultimates is so limp. It wants to be the Authority so bad but lacks the balls to be edgy about it.

Cap and Reed are the best parts and even then, Cap forever has a native twink with aimbot by his side and Reed is clearly being reserved to die fighting Maker.
 
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Ultimates is so limp. It wants to be the Authority so bad but lacks the balls to be edgy about it.

Cap and Reed are the best parts and even then, Cap forever has a native twink with aimbot by his side and Reed is clearly being reserved to die fighting Maker.
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The author be sneaking in weird doodoo time to time like equating murder to racism in one of his panels.

Then retards like Cody Ziglar show up to make Camp look tolerable.
 
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The author be sneaking in weird doodoo time to time like equating murder to racism in one of his panels.

Then retards like Cody Ziglar show up to make Camp look tolerable.
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For me it’s the insidious act of making Punisher synonymous with Red Skull.

Fuck that “it’s just an alternate universe” rationale, this shit is subversive as hell, so much so that Based Bruce killing them was actually satisfying.

He will get a humiliating demise at the hands of Temura Morrison “She-Hulk” though, that’s inevitable.
 
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For me it’s the insidious act of making Punisher synonymous with Red Skull.

Fuck that “it’s just an alternate universe” rationale, this shit is subversive as hell, so much so that Based Bruce killing them was actually satisfying.

He will get a humiliating demise at the hands of Temura Morrison “She-Hulk” though, that’s inevitable.
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Yeah making Punisher into an asian and doing le heckin co-opt symbol by the neo-red skulls is not only contrived but also indicative of how lefty it is. Also if you can read through the slop scene of Human Torch jerking himself of to melting Hitler, it becomes apparent that Deniz Camp is a tranny-commie.
 
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Yeah making Punisher into an asian and doing le heckin co-opt symbol by the neo-red skulls is not only contrived but also indicative. Also if you can read through the slop scene of Human Torch jerking himself of to melting Hitler, it becomes apart that Deniz Camp is a tranny-commie.
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It’s the small things, a classic Iron Man being a capitalist caricature, Cap taking shit from the injun despite him famously putting anyone on his team, Bruce prolonging the misery of asians (despite all of them being Gamma rejects and useless to his and the Maker’s design) and the idea that Maker would rewrite reality but not fast-track it into a futuristic utopia is ridiculous.

These social issues he’s forcing, don’t make sense because Maker would’ve eradicated all these rogue variables, because he removed all the others. Frank even getting to the point where he can be an idol is stupid considering the amount of people Reed eliminated or neutralized.
 
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It’s the small things, a classic Iron Man being a capitalist caricature, Cap taking shit from the injun despite him famously putting anyone on his team, Bruce prolonging the misery of asians (despite all of them being Gamma rejects and useless to his and the Maker’s design) and the idea that Maker would rewrite reality but not fast-track it into a futuristic utopia is ridiculous.

These social issues he’s forcing, don’t make sense because Maker would’ve eradicated all these rogue variables, because he removed all the others. Frank even getting to the point where he can be an idol is stupid considering the amount of people Reed eliminated or neutralized.
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Yeah as a dystopia specifically created by the Maker it makes no sense. In USM it's all about corporate espionage and international super Cabal's that aren't in it for the money. Somehow Campz's Ultimates, the evil reality of the Mkaer is just the superhero versions of shit like Charlottesville and capitalism. If anything all the conflicts in Ultimates feels like something the Maker's Council would engineer to create a sense of conflict and keep the cattle docile like they do with the fake wars. Instead it's all serious because it is his pet issue, it's similar in Absolute Martian Manhunter but it makes more sense there than it does in this book.
 
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Yeah as a dystopia specifically created by the Maker it makes no sense. In USM it's all about corporate espionage and international super Cabal's that aren't in it for the money. Somehow Campz's Ultimates, the evil reality of the Mkaer is just the superhero versions of shit like Charlottesville and capitalism. If anything all the conflicts in Ultimates feels like something the Maker's Council would engineer to create a sense of conflict and keep the cattle docile like they do with the fake wars. Instead it's all serious because it is his pet issue, it's similar in Absolute Martian Manhunter but it makes more sense there than it does in this book.
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They want to have their cake and eat it too.

Evil Hulk, without any explanation outside the Maker getting him on a grindset. It’s not said that Bruce was a sociopath before the bomb and it was a bomb so he doesn’t have the excuse that Ultimate 1 Bruce had of being high as fuck and it turning him into a sociopath. Sure it’s a fun callback to Reed and Bruce’s team-up and dare I say “friendship” but this is a gamma-Hulk, a juiced-up gamma-based Hulk. Why is he subservient, especially with Reed out of commission?

The Fantastic Four being prevented, that’s cool and all but that begs the question if Maker bothered to deal with all the cosmic problems normal Read is holding up or if they simply didn’t show.

Mutants were prevented……. except they aren’t

The Avengers were stillborn, we still don’t know the mystery of Cap, even though he’s likely a result of Kang. But why just neuter them? Fucking kill them, you can retard Miles Dyson but the chance of him making the kill-computer still exists, it’s just a smaller chance.

It’s too afraid to be different from our time because Ultimate 2.0 was always a stealth-delivery for Hickman fixing Spooder-Man and following up on his stuff from his run on Ultimates. It’s why it sucks so hard outside Spider-Man, all that world building was just appetizers to pull Peter and MJ out of the hands of a dirty manbun-Arab. You can’t make a new modern standard in a gimmicky dystopia. That being said, Namor being in hell is a good thing because cuck-fetishist writers lose a toy.

Ultimates 1&2 hold up, despite their grimderp because of the art, the nostalgia, the MCU foundations and they are by and large, with three freak show exceptions (Hank, Maximoff Twins and Hulk initially), great interpretations of what they’d be like in our 21st century.

Thor is a guru, brilliant, the Norse Gods would hate modern innovations and the effect on the Earth, him being a hippie makes sense and while he’s the left-leaning member of the team, he’s not like the Authority who were “left” in the modern Hassan Piker way. Ultimate Thor threatened violence against whalers cause he believed in it.

Tony is a dying thrill-seeker trying to make the world better, the best version of Iron Man because he doesn’t make his problems worse or go through the same arc. Sure he’s a drunk and a player but he’s a dead man walking, who wears a harrier jet mixed with a race car.

Cap is out of touch and more like a man from the 40s but the tradeoff is he’s pretty much Golden Age Superman, awesome, he kicked ass and boomerCap was a good guy, his despair and loneliness got to be explored in a very realistic way

These three and their places on the political spectrum were great, one of the few iterations of the core three Avengers where I buy that they’re friends, they butt heads constantly but the dinner scene where the three just discuss the world is great. The movie did it even better having Captain America come with Fury to meet Thor and the thunder god having nothing but respect.

Even Bruce being the odd man out was good, it made Edward Norton being cast as him all the more fitting because Ultimate Bruce is just the protagonist from Fight Club, if he took cocaine and steroids. He is the quintessential “beta male to chad” but dialed up to a thousand and completely hilarious, him having “consequences turned on” was also a nice touch, you don’t get to be a living WMD and still have rights.
 
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Instead it's all serious because it is his pet issue, it's similar in Absolute Martian Manhunter but it makes more sense there than it does in this book.
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I tried to enjoy AMM (as a longtime J’onn fan), but as much as /co/ seems to like glazing that comic, there’s just this sickly feeling of subversion I get from it. It’s always little things, too, like a riot in a major American city being sparked off by rival factions of white male Christians right after a page where minority children were happily playing in a hydrant on the street like it was the ‘70s.
 
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I tried to enjoy AMM (as a longtime J’onn fan), but as much as /co/ seems to like glazing that comic, there’s just this sickly feeling of subversion I get from it. It’s always little things, too, like a riot in a major American city being sparked off by rival factions of white male Christians right after a page where minority children were happily playing in a hydrant on the street like it was the ‘70s.
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These writers need to get off their phones and go out into the real world. I'd shove them on a plane to Detroit, take away their phones, then put them on a bus to the worst areas and tell them "Okay, wander around and take in the scenery for ideas for new stories". A couple of muggings and some rapes later, they'd definitely be disabused of their notions that whites are awful, angry violent bastards while minorities are these perfect, innocent children.
 
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These writers need to get off their phones and go out into the real world. I'd shove them on a plane to Detroit, take away their phones, then put them on a bus to the worst areas and tell them "Okay, wander around and take in the scenery for ideas for new stories". A couple of muggings and some rapes later, they'd definitely be disabused of their notions that whites are awful, angry violent bastards while minorities are these perfect, innocent children.
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I think the more likely outcome would be them projecting those incident onto systemic racism somehow. Like the chick that watched her boyfriend get stabbed by a future engineer/doctor.
 
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I’m sure this was an organic decision and has nothing to do with Ultimate wrapping up and trying to migrate those readers back to the core product.
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That seems too reasonable for it to be the reason this decision was made. Marvel is so out of touch these days i'm sure the only reason this is happening is because they came up with a new way to humiliate Peter.
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ToG was crazy. I still remember when Rogue ditched Gambit in Antarctica.
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That was always such a silly story especially seeing that Rogue's background isn't much better. It does seem like they were setting up something interesting with the story line, but like everything late 90s Marvel it doesn't feel like it every fully gets fleshed out.
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I tried to enjoy AMM (as a longtime J’onn fan), but as much as /co/ seems to like glazing that comic, there’s just this sickly feeling of subversion I get from it. It’s always little things, too, like a riot in a major American city being sparked off by rival factions of white male Christians right after a page where minority children were happily playing in a hydrant on the street like it was the ‘70s.
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That's too bad because it's actually quite good. As far as superhero comics go it's quite original and it's probably the best of the absolute titles right now. If it makes you feel better they're taking a break so no new issues for awhile so you don't have to see anything about it for a few months.
 
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