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sKr0n said:
Are you telling me EVS and the "Lords of the Long Box" might not really have the inside scoop and bullshitting for clicks? Colour me shocked.
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EVS didn't say they'd be taken over by Marvel, he was the one who said that DC might shutter their comic publishing wing if this relaunch fails.
 
HeyYou said:
EVS didn't say they'd be taken over by Marvel, he was the one who said that DC might shutter their comic publishing wing if this relaunch fails.
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I was referencing both rumour mongers that were mentioned in the article, it's weird because EVS did not mention Marvel, definitely totally not because they just wrote a non-sense article because one youtuber with 3k subs said something and had to throw in at least one actual person tied to the company at some point in history for the illusion that this is not shameless clickbait.
 
Notgoodwithusernames said:
probably not gonna happen. What will likely happen though is that unless DC's publishing section steps its game up it might be shut down or at least hugely cut back
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Gotta be honest if DC cut back to just publishing Bats,Supes and Wondy like in the ancient days I'd be happy.

Wonder Woman is the only thing I buy from them.
 
FROG said:
Marvel is not taking over DC books. There's no money in it. They only care about making movies.
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I know that I'm talking to someone who knows more than I do, but I think that's not true. Adding DC shit to Marvel comics would print money like crazy.
 
AnimeGirlConnoisseur said:
I know that I'm talking to someone who knows more than I do, but I think that's not true. Adding DC shit to Marvel comics would print money like crazy.
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Here's what you need to know about Marvel: They didn't even make Fantastic Four comics when they didn't own the movie rights.

There is NO MONEY in comics. Not on the scale that any of the big parent companies would consider.
 
HeyYou said:
EVS didn't say they'd be taken over by Marvel, he was the one who said that DC might shutter their comic publishing wing if this relaunch fails.
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Ethan Van Sciver doomsday predictions are a giant pile of horse shit just like everything that comes out of his mouth nowadays.
 
Zaragoza said:
Ethan Van Sciver doomsday predictions are a giant pile of horse shit just like everything that comes out of his mouth nowadays.
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Probably, but everything is a doomsday prediction until it actually happens. At the very least, we have people like Scott Snyder openly disagreeing with the way things are heading, and DiDio is out. Things can't be perfect behind the scenes right now.
 
Twinkletard said:
Do you think Disney will shut down Marvel after AT&T does it to DC?
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maybe! Look, if DC shutters publishing, the Direct Market collapses within months. So things would have to change if others kept publishing. Amazon would be a good place to go for smaller companies...i don’t know what Disney would do.
 
FROG said:
maybe! Look, if DC shutters publishing, the Direct Market collapses within months. So things would have to change if others kept publishing. Amazon would be a good place to go for smaller companies...i don’t know what Disney would do.
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Pretty much 90% of them cease to exist and the rest complete their transition to Funko Pop outlets.
 
FROG said:
There is NO MONEY in comics. Not on the scale that any of the big parent companies would consider.
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Well Mr. Van Sciver, I don't know what you're trying to get at when you bring up the Fantastic Four, but the way I see it is like this: Comichron says that the top 3-5 comics of the past few months sold around 100,000 copies to stores each. That's what we can expect from the top monthly performers right now. If Marvel was able to either buy the rights to use DC characters in print completely or work out some deal where Warner Bros got a cut of every book sold with a DC character in it and then integrated these popular, established characters into the Marvel comics universe then it would be a big deal. Every normie out there knows about DC's most popular characters and they know quite a bit about Marvel thanks to the MCU. If Batman and Superman were to be inserted into Marvel comics then this would create a great deal of buzz; it could easily be the biggest thing to happen in comics in recent history. I think that if this were to happen then that 100,000 copies sold number would become a floor instead of a ceiling (at least as far as the combination DC-Marvel books are concerned). You say that there is no money in comics and I will admit that it's not as profitable as most other mediums, but how do you get from making $200,000 per book per month ($100,000 number I established for top performing books times 2 as retailers get their $3.99 books from Diamond for 2 dollars*) to making 'no money'?


*Might be wrong on that; feel free to correct me.
 
AnimeGirlConnoisseur said:
Well Mr. Van Sciver, I don't know what you're trying to get at when you bring up the Fantastic Four, but the way I see it is like this: Comichron says that the top 3-5 comics of the past few months sold around 100,000 copies to stores each. That's what we can expect from the top monthly performers right now. If Marvel was able to either buy the rights to use DC characters in print completely or work out some deal where Warner Bros got a cut of every book sold with a DC character in it and then integrated these popular, established characters into the Marvel comics universe then it would be a big deal. Every normie out there knows about DC's most popular characters and they know quite a bit about Marvel thanks to the MCU. If Batman and Superman were to be inserted into Marvel comics then this would create a great deal of buzz; it could easily be the biggest thing to happen in comics in recent history. I think that if this were to happen then that 100,000 copies sold number would become a floor instead of a ceiling (at least as far as the combination DC-Marvel books are concerned). You say that there is no money in comics and I will admit that it's not as profitable as most other mediums, but how do you get from making $200,000 per book per month ($100,000 number I established for top performing books times 2 as retailers get their $3.99 books from Diamond for 2 dollars*) to making 'no money'?


*Might be wrong on that; feel free to correct me.
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No, that's almost literally no money to Disney. And Disney would be promoting Warner Brothers' characters while Warner Brothers held the film rights, while paying them for the rights to do so.

It's stupid beyond comprehension to think Disney would license DC characters for comics.
 
FROG said:
No, that's almost literally no money to Disney. And Disney would be promoting Warner Brothers' characters while Warner Brothers held the film rights, while paying them for the rights to do so.

It's stupid beyond comprehension to think Disney would license DC characters for comics.
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Actually that does make a lot of sense.
 
Water-T said:
There was a TV show that ran for one season about 5 years ago that was very faithful to the comics version. Even after the show got canned, the character and his story carried over to Legends of Tomorrow, where he is the team's resident magic caster. They also let him smoke and fuck both dudes and chicks as God intended.
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I'm glad LoT gives more focus to Johns bisexuality, but I feel like the LoT writers fall into the same trap every bad Constantine writer falls into, which is looking at him and going "British guy who uses magic and is an asshole, got it."

Constantine rarely outright uses magic, his one true talent is lying and manipulating people, all the best Constantine stories in my opinion involve him running a con on someone (Dangerous Habits) or at the very least being a sad story (Haunted). Constantine in LoT as you said is just..the resident magic man. Which is a shame because I like the actor, I just wish he was given more to do. Also not a huge fan of the whole "Astra is evil and John fucked her mother" thing they're doing this season. If they're going to focus on John stuff I'd prefer they just bring in Nergal or FotF.
 
This seems to be the comicbook thread, so... I've been trying to remember a comic I read, or a graphic novel as I don't think it was published in loose issues, it took place in American contemporary society and followed one guy who's brother was got the powers of god and turned mad.
The theme of it is similar to the middle part of the manga version of Akira where Tetsuo is a living god ruling over neo-tokyo, those who have read it know how fucked up that shit gets, this is similar to that if I remember it correctly.

edit: dangit, replaced comic book with "graphic novel" in google and it might be "A God Somewhere"

edit2: yep, that's it nope, started reading it to find out if it was the right one and I'll probably finish it, it's good,
 
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Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
This seems to be the comicbook thread, so... I've been trying to remember a comic I read, or a graphic novel as I don't think it was published in loose issues, it took place in American contemporary society and followed one guy who's brother was got the powers of god and turned mad.
The theme of it is similar to the middle part of the manga version of Akira where Tetsuo is a living god ruling over neo-tokyo, those who have read it know how fucked up that shit gets, this is similar to that if I remember it correctly.

edit: dangit, replaced comic book with "graphic novel" in google and it might be "A God Somewhere"

edit2: yep, that's it, started reading it to find out if it was the right one and I'll probably finish it, it's good,
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That also sounds a bit like The Nth Man, published by Marvel in the late 80s
 
Water-T said:
That also sounds a bit like The Nth Man, published by Marvel in the late 80s
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It's not that one, it should be from 2005-2011 maybe.

I just finished reading A God Somewhere and for fucks sake it's not the right 10-15 year old comic book about two brothers where one gets godlike powers. This one was more superhero-like, the one I'm looking for is more messianic where at one point people went on a pilgrimage to see him because he can heal, he was living in a cave in a red sandstone mountin at that point and the queue stretched far into the rocky desert, that's one of the images I remember. Evil acts were more of a "god works in mysterious ways" situation except god was a human so the decision to kill or let people die was an evil act.

spoiler for the ending as I remember it: his brother manages to convince his god-brother why it is wrong for a human to be god. Brother takes that to heart and decides not to exist anymore

I think it was an indie publisher and not one of the big ones putting out superhero stuff.
 
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