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[kaien]

Crossed can be summed up as "Garth Ennis and a bunch of other authors try to out-edgelord each other. Except for Max Bemis, who misses the point entirely to whinge about comic readers"

Max Bemis is yet another in the long line of "hire celebrity writer and it all ends in tears" stunts by comics publishers. Somehow they never learn.

The first Crossed mini-series has a point to make in the middle of all the disgusting shit. (I still can't recommend it unless you're okay with huge amounts of disgusting shit, but I mean there's more to it than just disgusting shit.) The rest of the franchise, based on cursory survey, is just disgusting shit. Sadly there's like 200-some issues of it.

 

[AnOminous]

The first Crossed mini-series has a point to make in the middle of all the disgusting shit. (I still can't recommend it unless you're okay with huge amounts of disgusting shit, but I mean there's more to it than just disgusting shit.) The rest of the franchise, based on cursory survey, is just disgusting shit. Sadly there's like 200-some issues of it.

It should have been put to bed after the first couple series. I can't believe it's actually descended to literally having a crybaby temper tantrum over the term "SJW." Seriously? Even the worst edgelordery is better than that.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

Apropos of nothing, here's a cool song about Stan Lee:

Remy: The Legend of Stan Lee

Remy recalls a time when experts were claiming "Hitler was a beginner compared to the comic-book industry," and how Stan Lee took a stand. Written and Perfor...

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[Jonah Hill poster]

Has anyone ever read Transmetropolitan?

Seems like a pretty cool comic:

 

[Hummingbird]

I've only read the first two books and I've enjoyed it.

 

[kaien]

I loved Transmet when I was very young and find it harder to take in middle age. When you break it down far enough, the central plot is another superhero/vigilante comic about a guy who defeats the big bad by shouting and hitting things.

The parts of it that are purely speculative fiction, just Warren Ellis spinning ideas about the future world, are good to great. A lot of those you can read by themselves to get a taste of it. Issue #40, "Business," is a good one (content warning: harsh as hell) or issue #8, "Another Cold Morning."

 

[Foltest]

I have been reading through the old hitman comic by Ennis. Such a fun and at some points, real hearbreaking (the arc when Tommy goes to Ireland is fucking dark, even by Ennis) and is awesome. Hitman #34 is maybe the best issue in the series and nothing much happend in it. It is just Tommy and Superman sitting on a rooftop talking. Ennis have time and time again show that he doesn't care about superhero that much, but he loves Superman. Superman is so human in that issue.
A great and fun series, check it out.

Also, Bueno excellente is the best hero ever.

 

[kaien]

If you ask me (no one did) Hitman is the best thing Ennis ever wrote and it's not even that close.

I suspect there's a debt owed to the editor, Peter Tomasi, who went on to be a pretty good writer in his own right.

 

[Affluent Reptilian]

Of what I've read, agreed. His Punisher stuff is meant to be good, too. Having someone to say 'no' to Grant's more juvenile excesses would benefit many of his works.

 

[JimiHendrix]

I miss comics. The wuhan wheezer delayed everything I wanted to read.

 

[I can't imagine]

Of what I've read, agreed. His Punisher stuff is meant to be good, too. Having someone to say 'no' to Grant's more juvenile excesses would benefit many of his works.

His Punisher stuff is pretty hit or miss, but has some really great high points. Welcome Back Frank is good; at times a bit silly, but good. Most of the subsequent Marvel Knights series is okay, though it gets really dumb at times, especially in the stories where he interacts with super-powered beings.

The MAX series was pretty different; tonally, it's closer to his war books like Battlefields (another series I'd recommend). It takes place in a more-grounded, non-superheroic version of the world, and it actually portrays him as being his proper age (mid-late 50s). I only read the five or six story lines of the MAX series, but they were all good-to-great. My favorite of his Punisher stuff were probably the one-shots The Tyger and The End.

 

[kaien]

Fun connection for the Hitman readers: a character from there resurfaces in the Punisher MAX series. (No, it's not Bueno Excellente; he wouldn't really suit the tone.)

 

[thegooddoctor]

Anyone here A British Comics Fan, I’m absolutely obsessed with Jamie Hewlett and Alan C Martins Tank Girl Series, started in Deadline in 1988 the comic became hugely popular as the ‘Riot Girl’ female empowerment movement of the late 80s and 90s and helped push the boundaries for Tough female action characters in the Comic Strip industry, The comic is masterfully drawn by the polymath Artist Jamie Hewlett responsible for Gorillaz the virtual band that’s worldwide famous and helped bring him all the big money and recognition he received today. The early comics have a Strikingly detailed and Punkish look to them and are all drawn with wonderfully surreal details and tons to see in every panel, The stories are always surrealist and action packed with no real consistent continuity or story . The series has instead a spasmodic narrative structure and writing thy means every comic book a mostly unpredictable in Tank Girls and her friends adventures. Here’s some of my favourite panels and covers:

 

[Detrogen]

I have some Batman questions I’m hoping someone could answer for me.

If anyone here has read Tom King’s run from start-to-finish, is there anything worth reading after “The War of Jokes and Riddles” besides “Cold Days”? I have the first two deluxe edition volumes of his run and just found out that they’re doing a hardcover of Cold Days on its own, so if there’s not much else in his run that’s worth my time I may just pick that up and call it a day.

My other question is, are there any good Professor Pyg-centric stories worth getting into? I’ve seen him pop up here and there but he doesn’t seem to have a defining arc I can discern.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

For anyone that likes The Boys, read Marshal Law, it's very similar but way weirder. It might seem like it is trying too hard but that's kind of the point.

I loved Transmet when I was very young and find it harder to take in middle age. When you break it down far enough, the central plot is another superhero/vigilante comic about a guy who defeats the big bad by shouting and hitting things.

The parts of it that are purely speculative fiction, just Warren Ellis spinning ideas about the future world, are good to great. A lot of those you can read by themselves to get a taste of it. Issue #40, "Business," is a good one (content warning: harsh as hell) or issue #8, "Another Cold Morning."

I didn't know the term "Mary Sue" when I read Transmetropolitan but at some point (30 issues) I started to feel that he was Eliss' cool wish-fulfillment character.

 

[kaien]

For anyone that likes The Boys, read Marshal Law, it's very similar but way weirder. It might seem like it is trying too hard but that's kind of the point.

The difference between a Pat Mills parody of superheroes and a Garth Ennis parody of superheroes is that Ennis still has some level of affection for them, even Green Lantern, while Pat Mills just fucking hated superhero comics and everything they stood for.

You have to make some allowances for the fact that it was 1987, but the first three Marshal Law stories still hold up real well IMO. After Kingdom of the Blind it kinda stops having anything very interesting to say. But up until then it's just mean as hell, and some of the best art Kevin O'Neill ever did.

 

[Clipper]

I read Grant Morrison's Nameless, and I don't know what I was expecting. The story has great art, and some haunting visuals. It starts off strong, but then it begins to breakdown until it becomes completely incoherent. What doesn't sit right with me though is the comic's complete vilification of God. I thought Grant Morrison is bitter to God, since the characters in his story routinely call God a blood thirsty monster. These thoughts of mine were confirmed when I read the backlog, where Grant Morrison stated his views on Christianity. Safe to say I think they're comparable to a fedora tipping atheist.

 

[Detrogen]

I read Grant Morrison's Nameless, and I don't know what I was expecting. The story has great art, and some haunting visuals. It starts off strong, but then it begins to breakdown until it becomes completely incoherent. What doesn't sit right with me though is the comic's complete vilification of God. I thought Grant Morrison is bitter to God, since the characters in his story routinely call God a blood thirsty monster. These thoughts of mine were confirmed when I read the backlog, where Grant Morrison stated his views on Christianity. Safe to say I think they're comparable to a fedora tipping atheist.

He reaffirmed this to a degree in his recent Green Lantern run. In issue 3 an entity called “The Sheperd”, who is visually designed to look like the biblical God, purchases earth in an auction and gives everyone on earth superpowers in exchange for devouring it in 100 years. All the humans fall for this and selfishly exclaim that they aren’t remotely concerned about the future generations since they’re enjoying themselves now.

It’s one of the funnier issues of the run and doesn’t go full neckbearded atheist at any point, but going off your post I can see where the idea for the issue came from now.

 

[sKr0n]

Does anyone remember that Batman issue where he's being chased by an amalgamation of all his villains? Was that Tom Kings run or James Tynions? I fucking forgot and wanted to check something.

Is this what you are talking about? Its from Tomasi's Detective Comics #996

 

[JimiHendrix]

Is this what you are talking about? Its from Tomasi's Detective Comics #996
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yeah that's what i wanted. I liked the ending where he brought up the crime statistics on the batcomputer, I just didn't remember if that was King or Tomasi or Tynion.

I really like Tomasi's batman.