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Maybe this isn't the right place to post this but...The Turnip Farmers, the translation team that translated Kingdom for seven and a half years have decided to end their run.

It is a shame, but they did a stellar job with top-notch transation and great image quality.
They just posted about it on their blog, and I'd invite those who read them to go and thank them.


I'm a feeling a bit nostalgic now, given how long they stayed in business, every week posting the new chapter..
 
Cyborg being pushed as any kind of important character is due to 1) Teen Titan cartoon/TTGo and 2) Geoff Johns having far too influence over DC, in movies and comics. Johns is committed to pushing all of his childhood wishes into reality and, while some have gone over well (the Rainbow Lantern corps just makes me roll my eyes, bringing back Barry Allen has yet to yield anything worth sacrificing Wally [I could go on and on over the stupidity of Johns]), this elevation of Cyborg hasn't been well received anywhere. As others here have stated, he's not a character than can or has ever stood on his own. His whole gimmick is boring, cliched, and past current sell-by date -- does *anybody* find cyborgs "cool" these days?

Meanwhile, John Stewart (probably the most well-known Lantern thanks to JLU), Black Lightning (the first and probably most interesting of DC's black superheroes, who also has a CW show), Jason Rauch Firestorm (completely discarded by DC despite being a "hot new character!" a few years ago), and Static (again pretty well-known thanks to Static Shock and Young Justice) languish in the corner.
John's the mainline JLA lantern right now, Black Lightning is being set up for the big stage, Static's getting a new Milestone imprint series.

Jason Rusch Firestorm is underutilized but that's more to do with Firestorm just not having any appropriately good villains that can actually deal with his cosmic power level imo. If you didn't know, it was a trope in Suicide Squad books to kill off Firestorm rogues for a while. I think the best they could do is try to rework the weird and funky 80s Ostrander stuff with the elementals and shit until they actually get a Cosmic book or sth for him. They've been trying to push him since he first appeared, but the writing standards for him have never been that good and revolved too much around Ronnie Raymond's legacy than letting Jason stand on him own imo. Kind of a shame too. But I guess that's what happens when you have villains like fucking Hyena and Slipknot.

Cyborg isn't bad, but he's too generic without the Titans stuff. He's just an overall good guy with godlike tech and the durability and power to stand up to gigantic threats. He's also an in-universe paragon of sorts. DC has far too fucking many of those, The Superman Family, Wonder Woman and co., The Marvel Family, the Flash Family, etc.

Hell, that reminds me, we already have a black, technology-powered hero that's already a "paragon". It's Steel. Remember him? He's part of the Superman Family and is already EVERYTHING that Geoff Johns wanted to turn Cyborg into. He's no B-lister. He had a shit movie and several iconic runs and stories. (Louise Simonson's a damn fine writer.)

It's honestly a decent idea to have thrown him into JL Odyssey. Let him get some character development. Maybe he'll return to Earth and suddenly the Titans canon returns and then Beast Boy grows up appropriately.

Vixen could potentially be a big name if they marketed her for a decade. She's fairly known due to JLU and The Legends show. She's also the only member of the Detroit league that made it to the big time. Gypsy never really went anywhere past the 90s and the other two rookies fucking died.

Mr. Terrific works well, but he's B list until they start marketing him properly. He's got potential, but too much of his story is tied into the JSA and being a legacy. Once the rebooted JSA kicks off, he should just be back there and in his own The Terrifics book.

As for other notable black heroes, we have the newer Aqualad who's finally getting screentime after getting cucked by the new 52. He's pretty new tho. The Signal is new as hell and shouldn't be a centric hero until we get an establishing run for him. Bumblebee/Herald are Titans and famous for being semi-retired. Uhh, we also have had Nubia, the black Wonder Woman? She's not a bad concept to extend that family of characters tbh. Wallace West isn't going to be relevant for a while. The new Kid Flash is kind of just there since no one wants to kill off the black kid hero. Bronze Tiger is an anti-hero that'll be with the Suicide Squad again, eventually. The Amazing Man was a retroactively created black hero from the 40s. His grandson got killed off in the Starman run by James Robinson. His other descendent joined the JSA in the 2000s and was just kinda there. I think the 2000s JSA run introduced a ton of modern legacy heroes for use. Black Lightning's daughters were pretty relevant in the 2000s in the Outsiders and JSA. Uh, we also have Batwing as another relevant black hero. The last one that comes to mind is the black Power Girl who just got written off as being trapped in limbo trying to rescue the original power girl. Dunno when they'll resolve that. There's probably Natasha Irons too, but she's kind of relegated to the background.

Can't think of more. I've probably missed some. Is Vixen really the most well-known black superheroine from DC comics tho? Man no wonder Naomi is getting pushed. Granted it's just DC giving Bendis a good shot.
 
It's possible to not be a genius and write a genius, but it's still very tough and only gets tougher the dumber and less talented you are. There's two standard tricks: you give them extraordinary abilities to read people so they can somehow know what people are thinking and going to do, and connected to that is you make everything that happens part of their master plan.

They're both shortcuts to intelligence, but also very easy to make unbelievable. Especially when there was clearly no plan on the writer's part, so the idea the genius character could predict so many different things could happen is impossible.

A good writer can fudge a clever idea. A bad writer treats genius like magic that is like a skeleton key for the problems you want it to solve.
There is one more way to write a genius. Cannibalize, re-purpose, and tweak other works of fiction and real word figures or events. Someone who has been exposed to enough "battle of wits" or detective genre will be able to cobble together a solid plot for Riddeler story. Just drawing on examples and tweaking them to make the story stand on its own would be an improved on what comes out now days. Things get easier for people with even basic interest in cryptography, mystery, puzzles, and ARGs. The problem is that most comic book writers have no interests or exposure to media other than mainstream American comics and mainstream movies and TV. Hence, everyone has the same, limited pool of inspirations to draw upon. That's in part why most cape stories feel so stale.


John's the mainline JLA lantern right now, Black Lightning is being set up for the big stage, Static's getting a new Milestone imprint series.

Jason Rusch Firestorm is underutilized but that's more to do with Firestorm just not having any appropriately good villains that can actually deal with his cosmic power level imo. If you didn't know, it was a trope in Suicide Squad books to kill off Firestorm rogues for a while. I think the best they could do is try to rework the weird and funky 80s Ostrander stuff with the elementals and shit until they actually get a Cosmic book or sth for him. They've been trying to push him since he first appeared, but the writing standards for him have never been that good and revolved too much around Ronnie Raymond's legacy than letting Jason stand on him own imo. Kind of a shame too. But I guess that's what happens when you have villains like fucking Hyena and Slipknot.

Cyborg isn't bad, but he's too generic without the Titans stuff. He's just an overall good guy with godlike tech and the durability and power to stand up to gigantic threats. He's also an in-universe paragon of sorts. DC has far too fucking many of those, The Superman Family, Wonder Woman and co., The Marvel Family, the Flash Family, etc.

Hell, that reminds me, we already have a black, technology-powered hero that's already a "paragon". It's Steel. Remember him? He's part of the Superman Family and is already EVERYTHING that Geoff Johns wanted to turn Cyborg into. He's no B-lister. He had a shit movie and several iconic runs and stories. (Louise Simonson's a damn fine writer.)

It's honestly a decent idea to have thrown him into JL Odyssey. Let him get some character development. Maybe he'll return to Earth and suddenly the Titans canon returns and then Beast Boy grows up appropriately.

Vixen could potentially be a big name if they marketed her for a decade. She's fairly known due to JLU and The Legends show. She's also the only member of the Detroit league that made it to the big time. Gypsy never really went anywhere past the 90s and the other two rookies fucking died.

Mr. Terrific works well, but he's B list until they start marketing him properly. He's got potential, but too much of his story is tied into the JSA and being a legacy. Once the rebooted JSA kicks off, he should just be back there and in his own The Terrifics book.

As for other notable black heroes, we have the newer Aqualad who's finally getting screentime after getting cucked by the new 52. He's pretty new tho. The Signal is new as hell and shouldn't be a centric hero until we get an establishing run for him. Bumblebee/Herald are Titans and famous for being semi-retired. Uhh, we also have had Nubia, the black Wonder Woman? She's not a bad concept to extend that family of characters tbh. Wallace West isn't going to be relevant for a while. The new Kid Flash is kind of just there since no one wants to kill off the black kid hero. Bronze Tiger is an anti-hero that'll be with the Suicide Squad again, eventually. The Amazing Man was a retroactively created black hero from the 40s. His grandson got killed off in the Starman run by James Robinson. His other descendent joined the JSA in the 2000s and was just kinda there. I think the 2000s JSA run introduced a ton of modern legacy heroes for use. Black Lightning's daughters were pretty relevant in the 2000s in the Outsiders and JSA. Uh, we also have Batwing as another relevant black hero. The last one that comes to mind is the black Power Girl who just got written off as being trapped in limbo trying to rescue the original power girl. Dunno when they'll resolve that. There's probably Natasha Irons too, but she's kind of relegated to the background.

Can't think of more. I've probably missed some. Is Vixen really the most well-known black superheroine from DC comics tho? Man no wonder Naomi is getting pushed. Granted it's just DC giving Bendis a good shot.
Mister Terrific would be the easiest one to push and there are many angles to it. I think that making him a Yin to Batman's Yang would be interesting. Similarities and differences between the two would be easy to mine for stories.
 
Uh, we also have Batwing as another relevant
He sort of gets lost in the already horribly oversized Batfamily, though. Because every writer since like 2006 has to add a new Batfamily member on a biannual basis. He might benefit from an identity change.

Maybe one that doesn't share a name with a version of Batman's aircraft.
 
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I'm enjoying Joker War more than I'd like, but it definitely isn't having as big of an impact as it should because of Joker fatigue. I also don't get all the hype surrounding Punchline. It feels like DC is trying to market has as the breakout character, and people were buying up overpriced copies of a Nightwing issue because the word "punchline" was used. Not even in reference to the character. I wouldn't go so far as to call her a bad character, but that's because I wouldn't normally even call her a character. It feels like she's a glorified extra, the generic "thug boss" person you throw into a story when you want the stakes to be higher, but can't put the main villain into the scene because then the story would end. In video game terms, she's essentially a mid dungeon mini boss.

Empyre was weird, especially since it was supposed to be a big event. I was reading the first few issues, stopped for what I thought was a week or two, and now it feels like the event has been over for years and is already forgotten about. Slightly related, but outlawed is still apparently going on. I always thought that was a lackluster idea to begin with, but it was just funny to see it referenced again after all this time when pretty much every other title (at least that I read) dropped it ages ago. I can cut them on slack since that has more to do with Covid shutting down the industry, which I'm sure had some kind of impact on Empyre as well.

I'm glad 5G ended up dying, even if I was kinda looking forward to seeing how much of a trainwreck it was going to be. I don't have high hopes for Endless Winter, which sounds a lot like a retread of that old event from the 90's I can't even remember the name of where Hal Jordan redeemed himself by reigniting the sun. Jon Stewart is supposedly playing a big role in it, so maybe we'll even end up with a similar ending.

Not sure if anyone read it/cares, but they released a Milestone comic #0. It was pretty bland, but I thought it was funny how they updated Static's origin. He's being bullied at school by some white kids, then after school he goes to a BLM protest to impress some girl. Said bullies just happen to be passing by the protest, spot Static out of the crowd of people and decide that's the best place to try and beat him up. Then the group gets teargassed, Virgil gets his powers, and so do the bullies. It was just incredibly hamfisted and lazy. Part of it I'm sure has to do with the fact they only had 3 or 4 pages to show each Milestone character, but given Static is the one that most people are familiar with/probably the only reason people are picking up the comic in the first place, you'd think they'd make more of an effort with him.

Is it Joker fatigue or is that the last time Scott Snyder and Tom King weren't writing the bat books was a decade ago.

I thought Milestone 0 was bad, but I never thought the original Milestone was very good outside of Static.

Final Night is what your thinking of. Its a neat story.

No idea on Marvel's latest groan event. Marvels dead to me.

Cyborg being pushed as any kind of important character is due to 1) Teen Titan cartoon/TTGo and 2) Geoff Johns having far too influence over DC, in movies and comics. Johns is committed to pushing all of his childhood wishes into reality and, while some have gone over well (the Rainbow Lantern corps just makes me roll my eyes, bringing back Barry Allen has yet to yield anything worth sacrificing Wally [I could go on and on over the stupidity of Johns]), this elevation of Cyborg hasn't been well received anywhere. As others here have stated, he's not a character than can or has ever stood on his own. His whole gimmick is boring, cliched, and past current sell-by date -- does *anybody* find cyborgs "cool" these days?

Meanwhile, John Stewart (probably the most well-known Lantern thanks to JLU), Black Lightning (the first and probably most interesting of DC's black superheroes, who also has a CW show), Jason Rauch Firestorm (completely discarded by DC despite being a "hot new character!" a few years ago), and Static (again pretty well-known thanks to Static Shock and Young Justice) languish in the corner.

Cyborg was there because they needed a black character that wasn't a legacy and ordinary people knew. That means him and maybe Static.
 
Cyborg was there because they needed a black character that wasn't a legacy and ordinary people knew. That means him and maybe Static.
Or Jon Stewart but we all know that wasn't going to happen with Geoff Johns having so much creative power.
bringing back Barry Allen has yet to yield anything worth sacrificing Wally [I could go on and on over the stupidity of Johns]
Fuck, I'm still waiting for the big thing that made bringing back Hal Jordan and marginalizing the other GLs (especially Kyle) worth it. Yeah, we got a number of great Green Lantern stories and events recently, but how many of them were great because of Hal Jordan? I've been of the opinion that Hal hasn't really added much as a character to any of these stories.
 
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Not a bad issue imo. I liked the roster of heroes. I wish there was more Owlman though. I wish he hadn’t died. I would’ve loved to see him take on TBWL.

DC should give us a Crime Syndicate Miniseries.
 
Or Jon Stewart but we all know that wasn't going to happen with Geoff Johns having so much creative power.

Fuck, I'm still waiting for the big thing that made bringing back Hal Jordan and marginalizing the other GLs (especially Kyle) worth it. Yeah, we got a number of great Green Lantern stories and events recently, but how many of them were great because of Hal Jordan? I've been of the opinion that Hal hasn't really added much as a character to any of these stories.

John's a legacy. If you weren't on the super friends cartoon, for Didio, safe bet you were a legacy character.

five years worth of GL being one of DCs big sellers. For arguments sake, Kyle was the only one marginalizing anyone, wasn't his big thing he was the only GL?

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Not a bad issue imo. I liked the roster of heroes. I wish there was more Owlman though. I wish he hadn’t died. I would’ve loved to see him take on TBWL.

DC should give us a Crime Syndicate Miniseries.

'Bama Supes will never not be cringe inducing. Rest in peace Stan. Your Wondy you shat out to pressure Marvel into giving you a better deal deserved more.
 
He sort of gets lost in the already horribly oversized Batfamily, though. Because every writer since like 2006 has to add a new Batfamily member on a biannual basis. He might benefit from an identity change.

Maybe one that doesn't share a name with a version of Batman's aircraft.
I liked him because he was like one of 3-4 African Superheroes from DC that you could name. The others were Vixen, B'wana Beast, Dr. Mist, and Congorilla. I think there was a dude named Freedom Beast too?

Anyways Batfamily burnout resulted in The Signal/Duke Thomas not basing his name off the motif and having that stupid "We are Robin" book.

Is it Joker fatigue or is that the last time Scott Snyder and Tom King weren't writing the bat books was a decade ago.

I thought Milestone 0 was bad, but I never thought the original Milestone was very good outside of Static.

Final Night is what your thinking of. Its a neat story.

No idea on Marvel's latest groan event. Marvels dead to me.



Cyborg was there because they needed a black character that wasn't a legacy and ordinary people knew. That means him and maybe Static.
Joker is probably the most iconic supervillain from comic books. He's up there with pop culture recognizability with Darth Vader.
Final Night was pretty nice and somewhat self-contained. It even showed a worthwhile end for Hal Jordan.

I mean it was either Cyborg, Jason Rusch Firestorm, or Vixen.

John's a legacy. If you weren't on the super friends cartoon, for Didio, safe bet you were a legacy character.

five years worth of GL being one of DCs big sellers. For arguments sake, Kyle was the only one marginalizing anyone, wasn't his big thing he was the only GL?



'Bama Supes will never not be cringe inducing. Rest in peace Stan. Your Wondy you shat out to pressure Marvel into giving you a better deal deserved more.
Kyle's been shafted since rebirth began lmao.

You'd think that with like so many team books, they'd find places to toss Kyle, Simon, and Guy. Kyle didn't fit into the new 52 narrative very well and has been sort of shafted as a bullshit placeholder "Torchbearer" for the GLs.

Just look at what happened to Kyle in the Injustice comics lmao.

Stan Lee's DC Universe is a fun concept. Shame we won't be seeing much of it outside of cameos, honestly. I'd love to just see it get a monthly serial in an Anthology book.

GL rebirth and results were fun but it just kept making Hal into some wunderkind. Kinda wish they'd just focus the book on Guy Gardner for a year.
 
Do you read any comics that are still actively being released? Any favorites?

Daredevil is the big one I actively keep up with that's usually pretty decent. Nothing groundbreaking, but more hits than misses IMO. I think of the main two, it has been consistent enough to be good overall.

Maybe this is me being a nostalgia slut, but I also enjoy the Power Rangers comics. They're not exactly groundbreaking or super high quality, but they're fun and feel like they're written by people who know not to take the material too seriously, while also acknowledging that it shouldn't just go into full parody or become too over the top. For lack of a better term, it feels the most "comic-y" out of all the comics I read.
 
Do you read any comics that are still actively being released? Any favorites?
I really like Hawkman. It’s very weird and experimental, which is the kind of stuff I like. It’s a shame DC cancelled it.
 
Do you read any comics that are still actively being released? Any favorites?
I follow the DC rebirth titles and the Dark Nights shit. It's pretty entertaining. As for Marvel, I follow the Avengers/X-Men/Fantastic 4/Spider-Man/Hulk quintet of stuff. Also Venom too given the event teasing.
Daredevil is the big one I actively keep up with that's usually pretty decent. Nothing groundbreaking, but more hits than misses IMO. I think of the main two, it has been consistent enough to be good overall.

Maybe this is me being a nostalgia slut, but I also enjoy the Power Rangers comics. They're not exactly groundbreaking or super high quality, but they're fun and feel like they're written by people who know not to take the material too seriously, while also acknowledging that it shouldn't just go into full parody or become too over the top. For lack of a better term, it feels the most "comic-y" out of all the comics I read.
I mean it takes itself as seriously as a comic book, with little crossovers and shit. Doesn't try to be high art, yet doesn't try to be low culture. Strikes a perfectly fine balance as an enjoyable comic.
I really like Hawkman. It’s very weird and experimental, which is the kind of stuff I like. It’s a shame DC cancelled it.
Isn't it still running as of right now?

Hawkman got his reboot and they even threw in a JSA bit.

Given that Hawkgirl is cosmically important right now, it'll be interesting to see what role Hawkman plays when team books return.

I'd say that I'd like to see more of his villains, but the only fun one is Gentleman Ghost. The rest are either holdovers from his origin stories, like Blyth or Hath-Set, or just figments of the age in which they were published, like the golden age shitters, the silver age shitters, or the early 90s mess. The Void God dude they introduced recently is going to be the fresh new Hawkman villain for the next decade or so.

no wait I also forgot Onimar Synn's a Hawkman villain and a big cosmic one too. He's pretty good.
 
Are there any notable black villains? Equality of evil and all that - or have they all been retconned into Killmonger-esque, 'Remember they are victims before they are villains, always make sure to mention how racism has hurt them' types?

I was trying to think of Marvel villains that were black, and I couldn't think of any - especially not recent ones.
 
Are there any notable black villains? Equality of evil and all that - or have they all been retconned into Killmonger-esque, 'Remember they are victims before they are villains, always make sure to mention how racism has hurt them' types?

I was trying to think of Marvel villains that were black, and I couldn't think of any - especially not recent ones.
Black Manta?
 
Do you read any comics that are still actively being released? Any favorites?

Nothing Marvel. I'm reading Three Jokers and Morrison's GL regularly. I read Tynion's run and while there was some stuff I liked, I felt it was underwhelming. Better than Scott Snyder's or Tom King's run, but those weren't good at all. Mostly done with DC at this point. Metal is junk with pretty pictures. Bendis is raping Superman and LOSH and so much else. Wally is the fucking New Gods now. Wondy is bad, Aquaman junk. Its like they looked at Rebirth and thought 'how do I undermine this?"

There's some good indy books. Big girls from Image.
 
Are there any notable black villains? Equality of evil and all that - or have they all been retconned into Killmonger-esque, 'Remember they are victims before they are villains, always make sure to mention how racism has hurt them' types?

I was trying to think of Marvel villains that were black, and I couldn't think of any - especially not recent ones.

Killer Croc?
 
Are there any notable black villains? Equality of evil and all that - or have they all been retconned into Killmonger-esque, 'Remember they are victims before they are villains, always make sure to mention how racism has hurt them' types?

I was trying to think of Marvel villains that were black, and I couldn't think of any - especially not recent ones.

Miles Morales has his Uncle as the Prowler. I feel like, in universe, he's tried to use the Killmonger-esque excuse, but he gets called out on it. Though the level of sympathy seems to change from writer to writer. Pretty sure Luke Cage has an evil brother, but I don't know enough about him/can't remember the last time he was used to say how he's handled.

The biggest DC one is Black Manta. Bendis set up a black supervillain in his Superman run, but I'd be very surprised if anyone else outside of Bendis acknowledges her. But I think by virtue of fighting Superman multiple times she can technically be considered notable. DC has a few others, but I don't think they're big/used enough to be considered notable. To be fair, the same is probably true of Marvel, I'm just less familiar with those guys as a whole.
 
There is one more way to write a genius. Cannibalize, re-purpose, and tweak other works of fiction and real word figures or events. Someone who has been exposed to enough "battle of wits" or detective genre will be able to cobble together a solid plot for Riddeler story. Just drawing on examples and tweaking them to make the story stand on its own would be an improved on what comes out now days. Things get easier for people with even basic interest in cryptography, mystery, puzzles, and ARGs.

That was my idea as well. Get an actual experienced ARG writer on staff to help with a Riddler arc. The process ARG players go through mimics the detective process closely enough, and making the riddles something like cryptography or a weird website keeps them from feeling corny like a verbal riddle.

They could leave 1 riddle unsolved at the end of each book, giving the reader time to try and solve it on their own before the next issue. If you want to go next level, you could include some actual ARG elements like a website or a seeded search result for some fake in-universe gadget.
 
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