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Again, a great issue!
I’m happy that Starro was the main baddy, but they totally missed on the opportunity of calling him something like “Starro the Savior” or something like that. Seeing the Syndicate get together was awesome. I hope the next three issues flesh out the world more.

oh and we finally got a origin for Superwoman, which was neat.
 
Punisher MAX is fantastic, the parts where it's Punisher and not trying to be edgy Metal Gear I mean. Every military arc has been retarded as fuck. Hordes of street thugs from a tactical position? Of course he'd slaughter them. Trained military outnumbering, outflanking, and outgunning? Ennis, you hack, decide which realm of realism you're going for. I'm starting to notice all the retarded moments people just leave Frank alive and conveniently don't hit any of his vital organs.
 
Punisher MAX is fantastic, the parts where it's Punisher and not trying to be edgy Metal Gear I mean. Every military arc has been retarded as fuck.
Yeah, the one in the Russian missile silo, where he's basically doing an 80s technothriller homage, that one is pretttttttttty goofy. And some of the gunfights in "The Slavers" are, let's say, unlikely. "Barracuda" is the only arc that really flopped for me though.

If you liked the main series, the rest of the Ennis MAX Punisher minis/one-shots are all at least entertaining, and the better ones are great. Punisher: The Platoon and Punisher Soviet from the last couple years, I got a real boot out of both of those.

ETA: Just cuz, one of my favorite moments. Something I like about how Ennis writes the character, Frank is a Marine, and he retains a Marine's particular prejudices.

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Yeah, the one in the Russian missile silo, where he's basically doing an 80s technothriller homage, that one is pretttttttttty goofy. And some of the gunfights in "The Slavers" are, let's say, unlikely. "Barracuda" is the only arc that really flopped for me though.

If you liked the main series, the rest of the Ennis MAX Punisher minis/one-shots are all at least entertaining, and the better ones are great. Punisher: The Platoon and Punisher Soviet from the last couple years, I got a real boot out of both of those.

ETA: Just cuz, one of my favorite moments. Something I like about how Ennis writes the character, Frank is a Marine, and he retains a Marine's particular prejudices.

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Cuda deserved better and I'm disappointed the little white kid didn't survive his mini series.
 
wasn't expecting future state: gotham to be a fucking manga, but the art is honestly really good.
 
I was reading early issues of Invincible, and they have this character called Angstrom Levy. He has the power to go to parallel dimensions and meet alternate versions of himself and create portals to go to different locations.

I think Robert Kirkman most definitely had a big influence on Rick and Morty because the color of the portal is way too similar to what we see in the show,

I just thought that I would throw that little tidbit out that I found interesting.

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Again, a great issue!
I’m happy that Starro was the main baddy, but they totally missed on the opportunity of calling him something like “Starro the Savior” or something like that. Seeing the Syndicate get together was awesome. I hope the next three issues flesh out the world more.

oh and we finally got a origin for Superwoman, which was neat.
For me the highlight was seeing the Emerald Knight corps battling a legion of starros.
 

tl;dw Comic book "pros" seem to sense that something bad is coming for them and for the industry as a whole.

A choice comment from that video's comment thread:

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To add to Kevin Feige's statement that he doesn't need the source material anymore, the last really memorable storyline in Marvel was probably the Infinity Gauntlet series, and that was in 1990. And they've already covered it with Infinity War and Endgame.
 
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tl;dw Comic book "pros" seem to sense that something bad is coming for them and for the industry as a whole.

A choice comment from that video's comment thread:

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To add to Kevin Feige's statement that he doesn't need the source material anymore, the last really memorable storyline in Marvel was probably the Infinity Gauntlet series, and that was in 1990. And they've already covered it with Infinity War and Endgame.

I'd argue that Civil War was memorable, but for all the wrong reasons.
 
One of my favorite titles from Marvel's Epic line, besides Alien Legion, was the cut short series "Stalkers", which lasted 12 issues but left the story incomplete. Created by Jan Strnad and Mark Verheiden, early artwork by Mark Texeira, then Val Mayerik and others.

It was published in 1990, and set in a late 1999 where terrorism has been on the rise, fringe groups with axes to grind on the rampage. The answer has been the private anti-terrorist outfit Stalkers, Inc. Founded by major corporations as a way of recouping rising security costs, it's a franchise, complete with noted operatives having fanbases. The book's also in that very narrow late 80s-very early 90s window where some near-future fiction featured Dan Quayle as President.

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There's a certain satirical edge to the series, even as it gets dead serious in the shithole year of 1999.

The first two issues deal with a terrorist situation in Detroit, where a local car lot has been taken over

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but this is just a distraction so disgruntled ex-auto workers lead by a delusional former car company CEO can take over his former offices' now owned by a Japanese firm. Never mind that he negotiated the buy-out in the first place, and was obviously forced out because he's nuts...

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Somehow, these terrorists got their hands on US military nukes, which went missing from an Army convoy and in the fallout aftermath of the Detroit situation, Stalkers' CEO, a hard-nosed ex-Marine named Tiernan sends for an operative, a grinning psycho named Snow who volunteered for a procedure that turned him into a "sleeper". The search leads them to a rogue bunch of Army types funneling the latest weapons into the black market, except one silly fellow decided to go into selling nuclear devices on his own.
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Meanwhile, a mystery man rendered an amnesiac by chemical interrogation is rescued by a Stalkers team, survives an assassination attempt in the hospital and after a failed attempt at getting a job at a fast food joint (and walking into a skirmish in the war between rival chains) decides to sign up at a place where the skills he can still remember may come in handy.

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As the series comes to an early end we have concurrent storylines, "John Doe" is murdered and psychic Stalkers operative Julie Ahmarra tries to get a read off of him of his last memories. Normally she can only pick up recent, short-term memories of the deceased, but trying to read "Doe" sends her into overdrive as she begins to tap into his instincts, abilities, and memories of the mysterious "Circle" he worked for as an assassin, putting her in the sights of one of their other operatives, a murderous eco-terrorist femme fatale. In what's left of L.A., where many freeways are abandoned along with the gas guzzler cars that were abandoned to rot on them thanks to the aftermath of the "Oil Wars", local Stalkers franchise head Wong has to deal with goons holding a movie studio hostage, demanding they destroy all copies of their upcoming animated rap musical remake of "The Last Temptation of Christ". And an insane Stalker wannabe manages to get himself involved in the operation, partly due to Wong's reluctance to actually be involved in front-line action himself.

"We're not Christians! We just hate rap music!"

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joker is not trying to kill batman typically, he trying to push Batman to kill him.
That's with the modern Batman who has the no-kill code. Before that code was in place, the two would often try to kill each other. The Joker from the Batman film starring Michael Keaton was trying to kill Batman, and Batman similarly was trying to kill him, too.


 
That's with the modern Batman who has the no-kill code. Before that code was in place, the two would often try to kill each other. The Joker from the Batman film starring Michael Keaton was trying to kill Batman, and Batman similarly was trying to kill him, too.

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it is not necessarily with "Modern" batman, the trope goes so far back as 1994 with the story Going Sane, where Joker does succeed in "killing" Batman, but he does so accidentally. With Batman gone, what does Joker do? take over the world? he becomes a normal man with a normal life.

Joker's goal early on was to kill Batman like any villain sure, but that has evolved and it's evolved far past the point of being able to dismiss it as being just "modern batman". your entire issue with capeshit is that Batman doesn't kill, but the 1940 Batman did, but as I'm sure you'll agree, Batman has evolved past that, just as Joker has in his motivation, so I prefer we focus on the characters as they currently are, not as they used to be.

i also would not point to live action movies, as they are notoriously bad adaptions, we literally have not had a single good live action Batman.
 
it is not necessarily with "Modern" batman, the trope goes so far back as 1994 with the story Going Sane, where Joker does succeed in "killing" Batman, but he does so accidentally. With Batman gone, what does Joker do? take over the world? he becomes a normal man with a normal life.

Joker's goal early on was to kill Batman like any villain sure, but that has evolved and it's evolved far past the point of being able to dismiss it as being just "modern batman". your entire issue with capeshit is that Batman doesn't kill, but the 1940 Batman did, but as I'm sure you'll agree, Batman has evolved past that, just as Joker has in his motivation, so I prefer we focus on the characters as they currently are, not as they used to be.

i also would not point to live action movies, as they are notoriously bad adaptions, we literally have not had a single good live action Batman.
1994 is still rather recent in comic terms, considering the genre dates back to before the Second World War. And that's just one interpretation of the Joker. Even the DCAU Joker got over Batman's "death" and looked forward to a new future with smiles, before Batman turned out to still be alive.

Well, call me a hater, but I liked the movies better than the comics when it came to Batman. They keep repeating the same formula in the comics, whereas the movies were more memorable and made more of an impact on culture. As good as it was, the Dark Knight Returns is nowhere near as iconic as say, the 1989 Batman and its sequel, let alone the Dark Knight trilogy.
 
1994 is still rather recent in comic terms, considering the genre dates back to before the Second World War. And that's just one interpretation of the Joker. Even the DCAU Joker got over Batman's "death" and looked forward to a new future with smiles, before Batman turned out to still be alive.

Well, call me a hater, but I liked the movies better than the comics when it came to Batman. They keep repeating the same formula in the comics, whereas the movies were more memorable and made more of an impact on culture. As good as it was, the Dark Knight Returns is nowhere near as iconic as say, the 1989 Batman and its sequel, let alone the Dark Knight trilogy.

my issues with the live action movies is there has not been a single live action batman that hasn't killed someone in some way.

which seems to match your tastes, but is very much against mine.

i enjoy the comics and the world built within it i also find the comics to have significantly more heart.

for example I don't recall anything in any of the movies even approaching one of the scenes in the comics, where Bruce keeps a list of every single civilian who has died in Gotham due to violent crime and it's shown that since he became Batman, those deaths have dropped slowly but surely, every single year.

what happened in the movies? Christian Bale got slapped around a bit and quit being Batman for 4 years? what a hero.
 
my issues with the live action movies is there has not been a single live action batman that hasn't killed someone in some way.

which seems to match your tastes, but is very much against mine.
The original Batman had no problems killing people, and to me, that's good enough.

i enjoy the comics and the world built within it i also find the comics to have significantly more heart.
I find the comics to be horribly unrealistic. Only in la-la land will you find a society that keeps sparing homicidal maniacs who have shown an aptitude for escaping prison. Either that, or a society that has its own version of the Dragon Balls.

for example I don't recall anything in any of the movies even approaching one of the scenes in the comics, where Bruce keeps a list of every single civilian who has died in Gotham due to violent crime and it's shown that since he became Batman, those deaths have dropped slowly but surely, every single year.
That's horribly hypocritical of him, since many of those deaths could be prevented if he killed some of the villains he's fought.

what happened in the movies? Christian Bale got slapped around a bit and quit being Batman for 4 years? what a hero.
Yeah, not a shining example, by any metric. Hence why I enjoy the Michael Keaton Batman more.
 
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