Spider-Noir from Amazon - From the producers of the Spider Verse moves, with Nicolas Cage.

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MunsterCheeseJr said:
OK. The first episode is out. I could get into black & white, or color.

Those who have watched this, which is the way to go? Color or Black & White?
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Feel like black and white is the intended viewing. Colour makes a lot of the CGI and sets look more cheap despite this show seemingly boasting a big budget.

Finished all the episodes, overall a pretty positive experience. Ben and Silvermane are most of the show and they play their roles perfectly.
 
Impressions from the first episode:
* Black & White is doing extremely well for viewing. No disappointment there.
* Nicholas Cage seems a little to old and bloated for this part.
* Secretary is fat hispanic. That doesn't feel like Noir.
* Buddy cop is a competent properly dressed black man in the middle of the great depression. I am not sure that fits.
* What should have been a bombshell singer is cast as a past her prime asian... and not the good looking kind either.
* CGIed a throat slit. Really? Computer graphics? They couldn't do it the old fashioned way?
* Something just seems off in the dialogue and acting when it comes to attempting the Noir genre.

It seems like they avoided DEI casting the primary characters. But you still see and feel the disappointment.

As of episode 1, it still seems worth watching. The errors just take a bit off the edge of something I suspect many people were looking forward to.

I haven't read the comic it is based on. For all I know the comic was stuffed full of DEI characters.

Edit: The spider man-noir comic follows Peter Parker instead of Ben Riley, so it looks like they really wanted full freedom to depart from the comic itself, and just use the concept of a Spiderman in a Noir setting.
 
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I saw a little bit as my wife watched it
seems fun enough Nicholas Cage doing Nicholas Cage things as alcoholic 1930s-ish Spider-Man
I had a few sincere chuckles at the jokes
 
MunsterCheeseJr said:
Edit: The spider man-noir comic follows Peter Parker instead of Ben Riley, so it looks like they really wanted full freedom to depart from the comic itself, and just use the concept of a Spiderman in a Noir setting.
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The name is explained later in the show. But it's also done that the Peter parker/spiderman ip is so protected that they couldn't have done this show this way if they used Peter Parker.
 
clickbait said:
The name is explained later in the show. But it's also done that the Peter parker/spiderman ip is so protected that they couldn't have done this show this way if they used Peter Parker.
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I wonder if that has something to do with them using Scarlet Spider look on the lucha Spiderman in AAA
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
I wonder if that has something to do with them using Scarlet Spider look on the lucha Spiderman in AAA
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Yeah... Not sure how they're going to do any other spiderman related shows given that they can't use the name Peter Parker or spiderman for live action television.

Maybe the success and popularity of this one will loosen the reigns a bit but it's Disney/sony bs. Sony is very protective of spiderman.
 
clickbait said:
given that they can't use the name Peter Parker or spiderman for live action television.
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Thus it is "Spider-Noir" instead of Spiderman-Noir. And why is he constantly called "the spider."

So you mean to tell me that this entire time Sony was trying to push out a spider man universe with all of the bad guys without spiderman, all they had to do was to was bring in Ben Riley, call him "the spider," and put him in a black or otherwise designed costume?

Seriously, that is why Sony's Spiderman bad guy universe failed. None of the bad guys makes sense without spiderman.
 
MunsterCheeseJr said:
Thus it is "Spider-Noir" instead of Spiderman-Noir. And why is he constantly called "the spider."

So you mean to tell me that this entire time Sony was trying to push out a spider man universe with all of the bad guys without spiderman, all they had to do was to was bring in Ben Riley, call him "the spider," and put him in a black or otherwise designed costume?

Seriously, that is why Sony's Spiderman bad guy universe failed. None of the bad guys makes sense without spiderman.
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They could just do spiderman and never reveal him to be Peter parker or spiderman and just like a day in life fighting street level crime and the criminals call him the spider.

But yeah... Either Sony or Disney gotta bite some sort of bullet for spiderman IP to actually thrive.
 
That bizarre overprotection of Spiderman's name is yet another example why IP laws suck and must die (in fact, when is Spidey becoming public domain again?). Then again, perhaps it's better than doing dirty to the character like the horrible Thor 4 movie.
 
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One down side to the black and white is that when Spiderman came face to face with Sand Man, I couldn't tell that he was Sand Man.

For a while, I was wondering if he was hulking out and turning green, or was grey hulk/Mr. Fixit, or was some other kind of concrete villain.
 
Stupid sonarr/plex didn't allow both versions. Overwrote the b/w release. Super gay. But am interested in how they did it in colour. B/w was great through and through. Still have the show in the back of my mind so gotta wait till that's gone before I rewatch in color.

Reminds me of what I remember old tv broadcasts of colorized movies looked like. Technicolor and such.

They keep mentioning Bogart noir movies and shit but all I was thinking of was Billy Wilder noir movies and from what I saw on x from colored version his colored movies.

Lol. Some kid on x said Nicky Cage channeled his Jimmy Stewart. Bitch where?
 
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They keep mentioning Bogart noir movies and shit but all I was thinking of was Billy Wilder noir movies and from what I saw on x from colored version his colored movies.
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Nicolas Cage is a big fan of Bogart, he brings him up in Dog Eat Dog, so I assume that's coming just from him.

Overall the show was good, but we lose all our noir whenever the fat secretary and Winston from New Girl are on screen. It just feels like they showed up to a Marvel TV series, instead of a trying to be noir. Winston did do a pretty good Cage impression for the finale.
 
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Lol. Some kid on x said Nicky Cage channeled his Jimmy Stewart. Bitch where?
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I saw a clip on YouTube of him in the car with some old Irish guy and it sounded like Jimmy Stewart doing a 1930s gangster voice through a wet towel, couldn't even understand half of what he said. Leave Ben Reilly alone, you see? Yah.
 
Watched the first three episodes in black and white and then switched to color. I don’t think you can go wrong with either option. It’s the best live action Spider-Man to date. Apparently Disney/Marvel is responsible for the name issues. Despite Sony owning the I.P. they have some agreement with how Spider-Man/Peter Parker is portrayed and don’t want him in a mature setting. Super fucking gay if you ask me.
 
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