Springtrapp - Batshit Otherkin Pedophile Sadist and Her Brainwashed Child Bride

nasty blast from the past said:
yes! back in the skype group i was in with them, they went by the name seth for a long while. it's kinda the only name me and my friends all know them by.
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Is that the name of one of her "kintypes" or something? If so, what is it from? Pretty much every name she's gone by is the name of some fictional character she wants to be and/or fuck.
 
Dismaying Tree said:
That list has:
4 personality disorders(or five--is DID a personality disorder?)
two different types of dissociative disorders which directly contradict each other--DDNOS is literally "non-specified," while DID is a specific type
4 physical ailments
and 1 developmental disorder.
Submit yourself to science right now, Springy, because you have enough shit wrong with you for five people.
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Five personality disorders, by my count. DID is a dissociative disorder and considered Axis I in the DSM-IV, while personality disorders were considered Axis II in the Axis system. However, DPD is Dependent Personality Disorder, PPD is Paranoid, BPD is Borderline, APD/AsPD is Antisocial, and AvPD is Avoidant, all of which are still diagnoses for personality disorders as of the DSM-5.

This list doesn't even make fucking sense because half this shit is impossible or nearly impossible together, especially the personality disorders. It's rare for anyone to even have a pair of personality disorders. A person would have to meet the criteria for each separately to be diagnosed with each. Major components of the claims this lolcow gives contradict each other greatly in some major aspect or another.
 
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TiredConlanger said:
Five personality disorders, by my count. DID is a dissociative disorder and considered Axis I in the DSM-IV, while personality disorders were considered Axis II in the Axis system. However, DPD is Dependent Personality Disorder, PPD is Paranoid, BPD is Borderline, APD/AsPD is Antisocial, and AvPD is Avoidant, all of which are still diagnoses for personality disorders as of the DSM-5.
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Axies aren't used in DSM5. DPD is also not there. Histrionic, which someone else mentioned, has been subsumed under BPD. You also can be diagnosed as a trait-specified PD, though I'm not sure how much that's used. (Note that old diagnoses are not replaced per se, and DSM4 PDs are still available for statistical comparison.)

Obviously I've not met her in real life, but everything she does is pretty textbook for Borderline. She doesn't need anything else. Any other armchair diagnosis is silly.
 
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KingQueen said:
Axies aren't used in DSM5. DPD is also not there. Histrionic, which someone else mentioned, has been subsumed under BPD. You also can be diagnosed as a trait-specified PD, though I'm not sure how much that's used. (Note that old diagnoses are not replaced per se, and DSM4 PDs are still available for statistical comparison.)

Obviously I've not met her in real life, but everything she does is pretty textbook for Borderline. She doesn't need anything else. Any other armchair diagnosis is silly.
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Apologies. I went to school during the switch from DSM-IV and DSM-5, so the first half of my classes involved IV and the Axis system, while the latter half involved the DSM-5. I keep wanting to use aspects of both systems- both have their uses. For example, the Axis system clarifies a major difference between the disorders classified as I and II, while 5 did some wiser choices regarding cutting certain redundancies in regard to some general clinical disorders and the trait system sounds interesting.

Springy claimed to have the acronym for Dependent Personality Disorder in that screenshot of her "diagnoses," which is why I mentioned DPD. I also have a copy of the DSM-5. HPD is still listed separately from BPD and DPD is still a listing in it. It notes in the introduction to the PD section, "As this field evolves, it is hoped that both versions [of the personality disorder diagnosis] will serve clinical practice and research initiatives respectively." A later overview of the changes between IV and 5 also suggest that both models are to be used together.

I also don't know about the use of that in diagnosis compared to the traditional idea of PDs, but that's statistical information we may not get for another few years. Or, at least, not something that's both accurate and a large enough sample to generalize until then. People may either still be stuck on the IV criteria and system right now because they need to adapt or they may overuse the trait system when the traditional method is more appropriate due to the novelty.

As for the diagnosis of Springy, I'd rather not touch the question of what she may actually have because I'm still working my way through all 200 pages of this thread. (It's just clearly bullshit that she has half the traditional personality disorders and a shitload of other stuff.)
 
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Honestly I'd say she fits narcissistic or antisocial PD even better than she does BPD. That said everything else she claims to have is bullshit.

Is the chronic pain claim new? I feel like it is.
 
TiredConlanger said:
Apologies. I went to school during the switch from DSM-IV and DSM-5, so the first half of my classes involved IV and the Axis system, while the latter half involved the DSM-5. I keep wanting to use aspects of both systems- both have their uses. For example, the Axis system clarifies a major difference between the disorders classified as I and II, while 5 did some wiser choices regarding cutting certain redundancies in regard to some general clinical disorders and the trait system sounds interesting.

Springy claimed to have the acronym for Dependent Personality Disorder in that screenshot of her "diagnoses," which is why I mentioned DPD. I also have a copy of the DSM-5. HPD is still listed separately from BPD and DPD is still a listing in it. It notes in the introduction to the PD section, "As this field evolves, it is hoped that both versions [of the personality disorder diagnosis] will serve clinical practice and research initiatives respectively." A later overview of the changes between IV and 5 also suggest that both models are to be used together.

I also don't know about the use of that in diagnosis compared to the traditional idea of PDs, but that's statistical information we may not get for another few years. Or, at least, not something that's both accurate and a large enough sample to generalize until then. People may either still be stuck on the IV criteria and system right now because they need to adapt or they may overuse the trait system when the traditional method is more appropriate due to the novelty.

As for the diagnosis of Springy, I'd rather not touch the question of what she may actually have because I'm still working my way through all 200 pages of this thread. (It's just clearly bullshit that she has half the traditional personality disorders and a shitload of other stuff.)
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Moving OT, but I totally agree with the Axis usefulness...they chucked it due to the fact that some folks thought Axis II meant "made-up problems you should just get over". I couldn't quite remember how the DMV-5 was spelled out for PD...I know they kept the VI, with the "new" version just being a handful of statistically strong disorders. (BPD, ASPD, NPD, OCPD, and.... AVPD as I recall?) Thanks for the clarification.

I try to avoid e-diagnosis usually, but it's kind of the main topic for Spring. Ever-shifting, fragile, permeable identity, low emotional regulation, self-harm threats, manipulation, and high-drama relationships are all pretty hallmark. (But obviously the solution is the same no matter what the Dx really is: go to a damn therapist.)

Android raptor said:
Honestly I'd say she fits narcissistic or antisocial PD even better than she does BPD. That said everything else she claims to have is bullshit.
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Those disorders don't mean what you think they do.
 
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On Spring's cha1nshipping tumblr account, they said they were professionally diagnosed with BPD at some point. I wonder how true that is...

KingQueen said:
Those disorders don't mean what you think they do.
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Yeah, at some point earlier in the thread, someone pointed out that Springy is too unstable to have NPD.
 
Cassowary said:
On Spring's cha1nshipping tumblr account, they said they were professionally diagnosed with BPD at some point. I wonder how true that is...



Yeah, at some point earlier in the thread, someone pointed out that Springy is too unstable to have NPD.
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I don't think she's half as unstable as she projects. I also think if she was BPD/solely BPD she'd have way more in the way of actual self injury and substance abuse issues instead of claims she pulls out her ass for attention. There's also a ridiculously high correlation with BPD and having been abused as a kid (especially sexually), and given I'm pretty sure her abuse survivor claims are bullshit there's also that against it.

She could be cormorbid, or have one with tendencies of the other (which is a thing that happens).

Not to powerlevel but I have a lot of personal experience with both BPD and npd and while they present superficially similar there are some distinct differences, differences I feel like she's more in the NPD end of.
 
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TiredConlanger said:
People may either still be stuck on the IV criteria and system right now because they need to adapt or they may overuse the trait system when the traditional method is more appropriate due to the novelty.
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This kind of shit is really common in the legal system, where people are often still using Axis this and Axis that. I'm fine getting rid of it because I never had any idea what that shit meant anyway.
 
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It's funny to see Kayla and the Farms listed side-by-side on Springy's "before you follow" page
 
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