Thatcher won that war in large part just to spite the Labour party and it made her massively popular (oh yeah, and the Americans didn't lift a finger to help - "An Attack on One is an Attack on All" my hairy 3-buttocked arse, and we'll remember that if the Chinese invade Guam or something).
We sold you Sidewinder missiles, in fact we had to strip them off of our own frontline fighter jets to get them to you because the latest Sidewinders were in such short supply. We sold you Stinger missiles, and we provided you sattelite data, amongst other things.
In fact, when one of the Vulcans involved in Black Buck 6 got into trouble and had to land in Brazil it failed to ditch one of the Shrike missiles that the USA had sold to Britain to assist in taking out Argie radar installations, this very nearly caused an international incident since the USA was supposedly neutral and was selling missiles to the Brits.
We sold you Sidewinder missiles, in fact we had to strip them off of our own frontline fighter jets to get them to you because the latest Sidewinders were in such short supply. We sold you Stinger missiles, and we provided you sattelite data, amongst other things.
In fact, when one of the Vulcans involved in Black Buck 6 got into trouble and had to land in Brazil it failed to ditch one of the Shrike missiles that the USA had sold to Britain to assist in taking out Argie radar installations, this very nearly caused an international incident since the USA was supposedly neutral and was selling missiles to the Brits.
Yep, and the jets carrying those missiles were sold to the Argies by the Israelis because why wouldn't the Israelis be selling on American military hardware to American enemies?
Yep, and the jets carrying those missiles were sold to the Argies by the Israelis because why wouldn't the Israelis be selling on American military hardware to American enemies?
American enemies? El Presidente was an anti-communist and anti-Sandanista. He could have raped puppies on state television every night and Cold War America would have still seen the Argie government at the time as the lesser of two evils at worst.
American enemies? El Presidente was an anti-communist and anti-Sandanista. He could have raped puppies on state television every night and Cold War America would have still seen the Argie government at the time as the lesser of two evils at worst.
We sold them some toys. Walmart isn't taking my side when they sell me a T-shirt. And we did so secretly because they didn't want the Argentinians to be mad at us.
Oh and on a nice side note she helped inspire Judge Dredd too so aside from the lefty moaning we got a pretty cool comic book franchise out of her too.
The missiles were sold before the war started, and the Frogs did at least agree embargo them after it kicked off. They even refused to deliver missiles ordered by Peru because they knew they were going to give them to the Argies. That being said despite the embargo a team of Dassault engineers was in country and continued help the Argies, including troubleshooting errors that gave the argies more viable exocets to fire at us, so fuck the garlic-eating, nazi-collaborating surrender monkeys on principle tbh.
Yep, and the jets carrying those missiles were sold to the Argies by the Israelis because why wouldn't the Israelis be selling on American military hardware to American enemies?
Much like the Frogs with the Exocets, the jets sold by the Israeli's were before the war. You have to remember as well that at the time the Argies weren't really seen as america's enemy since they ostensibly fought communism, hell Kissinger gave them the fucking seal of approval.
That being said much like the frogs the Israeli's had engineers in country helping the argies and they stayed during the war, and their PM allegedly sold them a bunch of other shit during the war to spite us for our actions fighting the Irgun, which he was part of, in the Mandate, so fuck them as well on principle tbh.
john wagner has literally said a lot of the dystopian themes stem from thatcherite Britian and the heavy use of the police on union strikes. bearing in mind her infulence as a politican was there prior to her being elected to PM.
Since Sikhs and Ghurkas were brought up - they share something quite interesting, they are allowed to carry a blade in public.
The Sikhs have the 5 Ks (men btw) which they observe as part of their religon, this includes the turban, a bangle, the non cutting of the beard, the comb, the under shorts (boxers) and the dagger. The dagger is part of their commitment to fighting the good fight from what i remember. Anyway, religous practice mean they have exemption from laws to have these items on them and to not remove them. Honestly dont know about airport security but day to day in the UK, yes. As an example, head protection that is PPE, nope, they get to keep wearing the turban, so construction sites were the first like back 25+ years ago, maybe 5 yrs it was any other job or industry and that includes police. I am not sure about the army, not my area. Ive met a few that are great but the rest left me cold. Mainly because somehow, they were always midst planning an arranged marriage back in India. I must have bad luck. Along with having a good rep and solid OG immigrants, there is sympathy because the usual shit show of the UK dividing up countries and etc. You find Sikhs generally in Southall (West London) Slough, a bit more west of outside London and the midlands, Birmingham. Southall is an absolute hell hole, but it has the largest Sikh Temple (Gurdwara) outside of India and all Sikh temples give out free vegetarian food, every day, no matter your belief or otherwise. Seriously, just turn up. You will be one of many! (thinking about why people like them, free food is always a winner) They do not seem to like Muslims at all, there was some talk about Muslim men grooming Sikh girls. Sikhs also came from the Punjab, NW region of India, it is a richer area, more arable, the food reflects that, Korma with the inclusion of almonds in the gravy (curry) is an example of the Ottoman Sultan influence. Biriyani is another, with rose water meant to be included in cooking the rice. (So if you like your cooking not so spicy, this is the area of food you are looking for) Anyway, Pakistan and rest of India - is not as wealthy from my understanding.
Gurkhas: Never mistake a small brown raisin skin man as nice and doddery, especially if you happen to be around Aldershot, Hampshire. This is the biggest population of Gurkhas outside Gurkha land Nepal. You can easily dine Nepalese in the restaurants around this area. Dont bad mouth Ghurka's either, the silly MP who thought about questioning Ghurka's right to in the UK stay found themselves summarily apologising to them and the ex model and film star who led the campaign all over the TV. It was hilarious.
I wanted to also raise the most popular man in Glasgow, how can this be you say? Someone managed to put the two waring sides together?
At 3.13pm on June 30, 2007, 4,000 passengers were queueing in the departure hall of Glasgow International Airport to check in on one of the busiest days of the year.
A Jeep Cherokee, loaded with propane gas cylinders and petrol cans was headed for the doors of the Glasgow Airport departure area. Flames were coming out from underneath as it crashed into a concrete post at 30mph. One of the men then got out the flaming Jeep, himself on fire, when ordinary citizens intervened.
Working at the airport as a baggage handler at the airport at the time, one of the men who intervened, John Smeaton stepped up when the city needed him most. Though off duty when he heard two explosions, he raced to the scene to tackle the bombers and helped a police officer restrain them after they’d just crashed a burning Jeep into the terminal.
Smoking a cigarette during his break, he saw the two men get out of the burning car and attack a policeman.“I thought 'that's not right' and ran over to assist. All that was going through my mind was I've got to help the policeman, I'm not letting these guys get away with this,” he added.
“What's the score? I've got to get this sorted,” he said in an interview two days later.
Asked if he had a message to pass on to the bombers, Smeaton simply quipped: “This is Glasgow. We'll just set aboot ye.”
"I got a kick in. Other passengers were getting kicks in. The flames were going in two directions.
“You know when you're younger, you put a can of Lynx [aftershave] on the fire, and it's like a flame thrower.
"Me and other folk were just trying to get the boot in and some other guy banjoed him," he added.
On the subject of police and terror, in vast difference, the way the UK is ""policed is by consent". This is the UK Value to policing dating from Thomas Hobbes. Truly, i think this is one of the most unique identifier of "British Values" but I could go on forever in terms of the ins and outs of that in actual application beyond just theory. That is why our police are not armed. The best way to highlight this is from the 2017 Westminster Bridge attack in which a police officer who was guarding the Houses of Parliament was stabbed to death. You can see the event locations here, you will notice the terrorist was already in the HOPs grounds and where he stabbed the police officer. Luckily the terrorist was denied any more glory, as there happened to be MP Tobias Ellwood, ex army, near by who on hearing, ran through the crowd now running away to help and fight. This incident led to the review of armed response at the HOP. Whatever happened post review at HOP, the UK is policied in the ethos of consent, much in the same way the parliament gives consent to the queen in the black rod ceremony. In terms of armed response, there is a specific section of them - referred to as SO19. They uniquely drive red police cars.
I forgot to mention, you think all the hoo rah about catholic vs protestant would mean the UK was quite evangelical, but most are hard atheists and when under torture of having to legally complete a survey, will chose Jedi-ism.
john wagner has literally said a lot of the dystopian themes stem from thatcherite Britian and the heavy use of the police on union strikes. bearing in mind her infulence as a politican was there prior to her being elected to PM.
Pat Mills and I came up with the idea for Judge Dredd in 1977. The character stemmed from stories I'd done when I'd edited Valiant and introduced a new hard cop into what had become a pretty stagnant mix of stories. We used to get readers' votes in and this story - One Eyed Jack - topped the poll week after week.
This was back in the days of Dirty Harry, and with [Margaret] Thatcher on the rise there was a right-wing current in British politics which helped inspire Judge Dredd. He seemed to capture the mood of the age - he was a hero and a villain.
You know if pro migrant liberals had a single ounce of reasoning they'd maybe look at the fact that even Sikhs, the chillest of chill religions don't like muzzies, and maybe draw some conclusions. Then again if they had an ounce of reasoning they'd probably not be so pro migrant in the first place
Dont bad mouth Ghurka's either, the silly MP who thought about questioning Ghurka's right to in the UK stay found themselves summarily apologising to them and the ex model and film star who led the campaign all over the TV. It was hilarious.
There are lots of things I will never understand about politicians, but them choosing gurkha settlement rights as a hill to die on is amongst the most incomprehensible. It wasn't just that they wouldn't support it it's that they had to be bullied and forced every single step of the fucking way, and I don't understand why. My granddad was heavily inovolved in campaigns to get gurkhas better treatment, and I helped him a lot with it as a kid, and I genuinely don't think in all that time I met a single regular person who opposed it. Sure a lot were kind of ambivalent about it at best, but the way the governement was acting you'd think they were expecting fucking poll tax tier rioting over it or something.
That's because the 90-95% of Irish Travellers who stop doing it rarely refer to themselves openly as Travellers or change their name to hide that fact. It doesn't help that you can tick all three boxes on the census and be technically correct in doing so. Most just identify as British or Irish despite, in many cases, still living in caravans.
There's a few reasons for that, mainly that it's perfectly acceptable for people to overtly discriminate based on it (despite niggers and Pakis behaving a hell of a lot worse imo) and that your surname can draw you into feuds. Police officers are fucking disgusting regarding it all, too, they'll happily ignore Paki heroin dealers but the second they hear your name, they'll just make up any shit they can to get you arrested.
I'd be willing to bet that you have, at some point, met people who have a local accent with a slight "twang" to their accent and a distinctly Irish surname, despite having no real connection to Ireland itself.
What you're describing literally makes up like 19/20 of the entire demographic.
If you're curious, each distinctive tribe has its own "culture" - some will be regarded as more aggressive, others more cunning, some lazy, some talkative, some skilled at certain industries, others not - it seems foreign but it's entirely native to the British Isles.
You know if pro migrant liberals had a single ounce of reasoning they'd maybe look at the fact that even Sikhs, the chillest of chill religions don't like muzzies, and maybe draw some conclusions.
I had a taxi driver once who was an Afghan Hindu. He'd fled Afghanistan with his brother because both of them were being aggressively recruited by the Taliban and wanted nothing to do with that shit.
Some of the stuff he said about Muslims would have made Katie Hopkins blush.
I had a taxi driver once who was an Afghan Hindu. He'd fled Afghanistan with his brother because both of them were being aggressively recruited by the Taliban and wanted nothing to do with that shit.
Some of the stuff he said about Muslims would have made Katie Hopkins blush.
Not surprising. As non Ahl al Kitab, Hindus suffered pretty badly in the Muslim conquests. As for the Sikhs, not only are they infidels, but their gurus arose after Muhammad, which is a big no no. Islam only tolerates Christians and Jews because they were wrong before the truth, but anyone who worships a prophet who came after the truth was revealed deserves death. It's the primary reason why the Ahmadis and Bahai are persecuted.
