Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Deepland Bystander]

You’ll love this: there’s some evidence bone health improves. Why? Because compared to other men, they can have worse bone health before transition because they are less likely to exercise or get vitamin D from being outside. The added E goes some way to fixing this. It’s almost as if the stereotype of terminally online autist incel troon has some basis in reality.

Overall however there is conflicting evidence, and most papers online have the traditional caveats and calls for more research, because so much in this field is so poorly studied.

I am largely thinking more about child transitioners than the shut-in types - What would happened to the others who were trooned out very early like Jazz decided that they'd 'detransition' but they also do not wish to not get either exogenous estrogen or testosterone in continuation from that. (Largely because I think they'd been groomed into believing that they're true and honest girls for so long, so even if they realise that everything was an illusion, some of them might not have the desire to get 'medically masculinised' as it'll still feel artificial for them)

There's been a few trans regret post from the ones who's been on blocker already on reddit, there's going to be many more of them where being a troon is no longer cool.

I'd say the child transitioners that continuously take estrogen will be able to ward off osteoporosis at least a little bit better than the eunuchs. Not on par with a normal person though.
In saying that, it's probably the only upside to taking estrogen. It will worsen every other symptom; like their eunuchoid fat deposits, anorgasmia and psychosis among other things.

That's probably what I think too. But damn, trooning out is a no-win game if you've already got your gonads removed.

 

[The Gunt Whisperer]

Those pictures reminded me of one of the most horrifying things I have ever seen: an untreated breast cancer bursting through the skin. Do not for the love of God google that, and please seek conventional treatments for all cancers. Coffee enemas and fruit juices do not work. Also, don’t tangle with your genitals.



Just like Joan’s husband in Mad Men when he failed as a surgeon, huh? Are they at least good enough for trauma treatment in the golden hour?

I’ve seen this IRL. It’s horrific.

I’ve actually seen it twice. Case 1, patient declined treatment. Understandable. She was at peace with her diagnosis and poor prognosis, and did not want to prolong life and suffering. Gnarly to look at. But we just kept her comfortable.

Case 2, patient was into woo woo and declined any traditional western medicine. She drank vinegar and applied black salve to the lesion (making it infinitely worse.) By the time she realized she chose poorly, it was far too late for any medical intervention. The cancer had metastasized.

This shit is so stupid.

A) all that risk, pain and potential future complications for a change of less than 2 inches. You can see him cope with it and pretend he's happy with the minute change, only to immediately hope for more

B) Despite the fact that being gargantuan is indeed a tell (combined with others) for troons, this framing is now placing the idea that tall women are so abnormal that troons experience torment from being the height some women actually are. Famke Janssen and all the other tall Scandinavian women must be having fucking panic attacks constantly that people don't see them as women for being 5ft11. No? That's weird, surely even their cis gender identity must be threatened by their mannish height.

As a 5’11 woman, I can confidently say that no one has ever misgendered me because of my height.

Because I’m not a man.

There are drawbacks. Dating, for example. But I can also reach the top shelf of my cupboards without a stool.

I can’t imagine all the potential pain and complication for 1 3/4”. That’s less than the height of my every day shoes. Insane.

 

[batteredpancakes]

What would happened to the others who were trooned out very early like Jazz decided that they'd 'detransition' but they also do not wish to not get either exogenous estrogen or testosterone in continuation from that. (Largely because I think they'd been groomed into believing that they're true and honest girls for so long, so even if they realise that everything was an illusion, some of them might not have the desire to change their look 'medically' as it'll still feel artificial for them)

I think that happens already with people who naturally have absent puberty. There was a male comedian I saw recently in my youtube shorts that did this; I can't find him now unfortunately. It wasn't Andy Milonakis although maybe he counts too?

I'd expect a lot of these kids to have peter pan syndrome from being behind their peers mentally which would just reinforce the decision to refuse treatment.
In fact I think a lot of the early ones, particularly the TiFs, are afraid of puberty and might be using puberty blockers as a cope for their fear. Pretty much every girl is upset about puberty to some degree so blockers look very appealing to the short sighted and fragile.

Edit: Found him he's called Mario Bosco.

 

[Mr Bones Wild Ride]

Case 2, patient was into woo woo and declined any traditional western medicine. She drank vinegar and applied black salve to the lesion (making it infinitely worse.) By the time she realized she chose poorly, it was far too late for any medical intervention. The cancer had metastasized.

Oh god - fucking black salve! Nightmare fuel!

I cared for a patient who tried to treat his facial melanoma with black salve. It went as well as you'd expect

As a 5’11 woman, I can confidently say that no one has ever misgendered me because of my height.

Because I’m not a man

Yay, another tall woman on the 'Farms!

I'm just a smidge under 6ft (181.5cm tall) but I do get "Excuse me young man" and "sir" when people (usually elderly) approach me from behind if my hair is in a bun/I'm wearing a hoodie.

Despite this, I have somehow never developed gender dysphoria or wanted to poon out or had any kind of meltdown over being *misgendered*

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Because looking at child transitioners like Jazz or Kim Petras

Ol' Tim can't even walk properly. Exculansic made a few videos about that but they disappeared when she got banned from youtube. Dude is a cripple and dances like an old man. He has severe hip problems.

 

[Lady Farishta]

most (if not all) of Exulansic's vids are on Rumble.

 

[Mellow Malevolent]

Yay, another tall woman on the 'Farms!

I'm just a smidge under 6ft (181.5cm tall) but I do get "Excuse me young man" and "sir" when people (usually elderly) approach me from behind if my hair is in a bun/I'm wearing a hoodie.

Despite this, I have somehow never developed gender dysphoria or wanted to poon out or had any kind of meltdown over being *misgendered*

Have you though about getting the full Cotton Hill surgery and having your tibias removed so you can feel like a girly girl? Think of how affirming it will be! The waves of Gender Euphoria will just wash over you.

Sure you ankles will be fused straight to your knees but based on this thread, that's a small price to pay for being your authentic self.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Have you though about getting the full Cotton Hill surgery and having your tibias removed so you can feel like a girly girl? Think of how affirming it will be! The waves of Gender Euphoria will just wash over you.

Sure you ankles will be fused straight to your knees but based on this thread, that's a small price to pay for being your authentic self.

I don't know what level of mental illness it would take to make somebody start thinking cutting fucking chunks out their femur, with all the mobility issues, crippling pain, and future complications it involves, all for a fucking 2 inch difference, is at all sane and a reasonable way to spend 50K.
They're fucking crazy.
Thats worse than Michael Jackson chipping away at his nose until he just had a hole in his face by the time of his death.
All that shit for an inch or two difference, its insane, and the butchers that do this are unethical as fuck.
I won't even call them surgeons. Surgeons treat people.
These fucks are Fleshcrafters.
Fucking Splicers.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

these make me appreciate having normal genitalia, something I had taken for granted my entire life.

probably goes without saying but this thread makes me appreciate...no matter how many mistakes I've made, at least I never paid a small fortune to mutilate my genitals and throw away my health, literally for no good reason. There are like 19 year olds in this thread who threw away their sexual function...just devastating.

 

[Lady Farishta]

probably goes without saying but this thread makes me appreciate...no matter how many mistakes I've made, at least I never paid a small fortune to mutilate my genitals and throw away my health, literally for no good reason.

and appreciate being able to pee without issue.

this thread makes me feel sexy and beautiful af. just come here if you're ever feeling low about yourself. I know that's kinda fucked up, but it works.

 

[SimplyScrumptious]

But I can also reach the top shelf of my cupboards without a stool.

Part of me is jealous. But my whooping height of 5’3 has made me a master of climbing- both at home and in supermarkets lol (although I will admit that there are times where I have to resort to asking a passing tall human for assistance, sigh.)
These men really think that it’s their height that’s the biggest error… I’ve never seen a tall woman and doubted that she is a woman. I’ve never seen a short man and doubted that he’s a man either.

and appreciate being able to pee without issue.

this thread makes me feel sexy and beautiful af. just come here if you're ever feeling low about yourself. I know that's kinda fucked up, but it works.

Oh absolutely. I think most people have insecurities about their genitals, despite being aware that it’s all completely normal; this thread is a great reminder that you are normal and everything works as it’s supposed to! Our friends at ovarit some weeks ago discussed this very thing lol Previous post

Just being alive and your original sex makes them seethe with envy.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

Should I see a doctor, or perhaps an exorcist?

It's much too late for an exorcist.

oh boy this one's bad.

Whoa. He's still alive? Maybe Babysoots has a chance.

but the thing that consistently grosses me the fuck out the most about amholes is how they all look like claws or pincers from the front.

I expect that eventually the au natural Big Bush look will make a roaring comeback. Pushed by trannies for its botched SRS concealing qualities.

 

[rusty shackleford 1]

It's much too late for an exorcist.

Whoa. He's still alive? Maybe Babysoots has a chance.

I expect that eventually the au natural Big Bush look will make a roaring comeback. Pushed by trannies for its botched SRS concealing qualities.

Next up in absurd gender affirming care: pube perms to compensate for the difference in appearance between men and women’s pubic hair.

 

[Xanax and Wine]

Wouldn't cutting height out of just your legs make your proportions all wonky? Not sure a gorilla with weird tits is gonna be seen as a woman

 

[neverendingmidi]

I expect that eventually the au natural Big Bush look will make a roaring comeback. Pushed by trannies for its botched SRS concealing qualities.

Modern Merkin, for dealing with that stubborn scar tissue that doesn’t allow one to grow a quality bush.

 

[pink cigarettes]

It's much too late for an exorcist.

Whoa. He's still alive? Maybe Babysoots has a chance.

I expect that eventually the au natural Big Bush look will make a roaring comeback. Pushed by trannies for its botched SRS concealing qualities.

A bunch of them will still have to do some viking beard level braiding to cover up the scarring. Pube bush combovers lol

 

[Procrastinhater]

Wouldn't cutting height out of just your legs make your proportions all wonky? Not sure a gorilla with weird tits is gonna be seen as a woman

I mean yeah, they're gonna look fucked. They're trading a max 2 inches in height for the proportions of a Proto-Hominid, which is just gonna crank that Uncanny Valley Effect Troons have up to 11.
I guess maybe he could pass for a female Ogryn, or a Homo Habilis or some shit.
Its a lot of pain and risk for no benefit.
The only advantage he might edge out of it is have people distracted by his freakish Gibbon like appearance rather than his manly hands and face.

 

[Peaches Demure]

I mean yeah, they're gonna look fucked. They're trading a max 2 inches in height for the proportions of a Proto-Hominid, which is just gonna crank that Uncanny Valley Effect Troons have up to 11.
I guess maybe he could pass for a female Ogryn, or a Homo Habilis or some shit.
Its a lot of pain and risk for no benefit.
The only advantage he might edge out of it is have people distracted by his freakish Gibbon like appearance rather than his manly hands and face.

The surest way to lose height is actually to speed up the degeneration of the spinal discs; which for a troon would be easily accomplished simply by taking testo blockers and not taking any estrogen to compensate. I'm sure that within a couple of years he would have had the bone health of an 80-year-old lady and the kyphosis hump to go with it. And likely the same amount of height loss.

Oh, and not - $50k.

 

[Bloo]

He paid 50k for this. He went from the 99th height percentile to the 98th.

Jesus Christ. The FFS results are so subtle as it is considering the price. Paying 50K to become ever so slightly shorter to the point that no one would even notice. I don’t understand why. I get having breast implants and even the idea of SRS if you have actual gender dysphoria but this is baffling.

 

[GloriousScarf]

Part of me is jealous. But my whooping height of 5’3 has made me a master of climbing- both at home and in supermarkets

I never reach for anything on the top shelf in the supermarket way too risky and it makes me feel like a child being up on my tip toes.

8 week metoidioplasty. Fucking pathetic, what was even the point:

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8 weeks!

The last lots. Although they do take a long time and are a bit boring. I think I can do everything, but I'm still not allowed to do anything. And after a few hours my body whistles back at me. Then the stinging starts to itch and everything has to be freshened up and repacked.

There is still quite a bit of swelling, but with a bandage at night this will reduce automatically.
It is still open along the edges and at the bottom, but that is slowly improving. The scar at the edges becomes increasingly firm and the wounds become fewer and fewer.

Now in doubt when I will go back to work. My head is already quite ready for it, but I don't know whether it is wise from a body-technical point of view and with a view to wound recovery.
Contact my team leader again next week and make a plan.

And!!! A connection is starting to happen!! I started playing/trying very carefully a few days ago and it's going quite well! I recognize the feeling, it is nice and that gives a lot of confidence for the future and the Great Discovery