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lol Carpe Fulgur, the lads who translated and published it, met one another on Something Awful back in its heyday
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And in true goon fashion, they're responsible for it taking so long to translate Trails in the Sky: Second Chapter because the team got collective sadbrains and made zero progress for months while still finding time to complain about how difficult it was to translate a game explicitly known for having more dialogue than most visual novels. Not only that, but they royally fucked up the editing process upon delivering the sparse updates to XSEED (again, like a true goon organization would...) and caused the majority of delays for the game's release. They then got a pity article written about them in Kotaku.

Goons were almost responsible for ruining one of the best JRPG franchises to come West in decades.
 
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And in true goon fashion, they're responsible for it taking so long to translate Trails in the Sky: Second Chapter because the team got collective sadbrains and made zero progress for months while still finding time to complain about how difficult it was to translate a game explicitly known for having more dialogue than most visual novels. Not only that, but they royally fucked up the editing process upon delivering the sparse updates to XSEED (again, like a true goon organization would...) and caused the majority of delays for the game's release. They then got a pity article written about them in Kotaku.

Goons were almost responsible for ruining one of the best JRPG franchises to come West in decades.
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X-Seed is in dire straights.

Like they're in such bad shape that they're unable to manage more than two game releases a quarter and they're a publisher.

We're supposedly getting a physical edition of Trails in the Sky Trilogy soon*. But there's no solid info outside of before they released the PS4 remaster of memories of Celceta that they said they were going to do more physical editions of their back catalog.

But they can't even clear their warehouses of all the stupid shit they published in the past. They still can't get rid of all the unsold special editions of Fate Extella and it's sequel. Their whole Limited Run games deal still has those copies up with the only new offering being Senran Kagura Reflections.

Any of their elaborate boxed editions they cut major corners on as well. The glue they used to hold the CE Boxes together is prone to melting and then re-solidifying, and in the process it loses it's adhesive properties. So you can order a new game and big cardboard box will fall apart as soon as you open the clear wrapping.

So in the end despite Nisa having some missteps with Ys8 out of the gate, they're actually handling everything better than X-Seed did.
 
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Marissa Moira said:
X-Seed is in dire straights.

Like they're in such bad shape that they're unable to manage more than two game releases a quarter and they're a publisher.

We're supposedly getting a physical edition of Trails in the Sky Trilogy soon*. But there's no solid info outside of before they released the PS4 remaster of memories of Celceta that they said they were going to do more physical editions of their back catalog.

But they can't even clear their warehouses of all the stupid shit they published in the past. They still can't get rid of all the unsold special editions of Fate Extella and it's sequel. Their whole Limited Run games deal still has those copies up with the only new offering being Senran Kagura Reflections.

Any of their elaborate boxed editions they cut major corners on as well. The glue they used to hold the CE Boxes together is prone to melting and then re-solidifying, and in the process it loses it's adhesive properties. So you can order a new game and big cardboard box will fall apart as soon as you open the clear wrapping.

So in the end despite Nisa having some missteps with Ys8 out of the gate, they're actually handling everything better than X-Seed did.
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I was originally really bummed that XSEED lost Trails. But man, their update to Ys 8 to fix issues, the speed and relative accuracy of their Cold Steel 3 release, and how quickly it feels like they were able to announce and heavily promote CS 3 and 4 really changed my mind.

XSEED never would have been able to get Trails as much attention nor get it translated as quickly.
 
Pissmaster said:
lol Carpe Fulgur, the lads who translated and published it, met one another on Something Awful back in its heyday
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Poop A Loop said:
And in true goon fashion, they're responsible for it taking so long to translate Trails in the Sky: Second Chapter because the team got collective sadbrains and made zero progress for months while still finding time to complain about how difficult it was to translate a game explicitly known for having more dialogue than most visual novels. Not only that, but they royally fucked up the editing process upon delivering the sparse updates to XSEED (again, like a true goon organization would...) and caused the majority of delays for the game's release. They then got a pity article written about them in Kotaku.

Goons were almost responsible for ruining one of the best JRPG franchises to come West in decades.
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One must wonder what actually happened to these games...
 
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Carpe Fulgur also wrote an article about their translation strategy for Recettear, in which they admit to just adding dialogue they wrote themselves. The "Capitalism, Ho!" catchphrase is entirely their invention.

The game itself did have the problem that you were entirely doomed to fail if you didn't have a high enough shop level, which you only got by perfectly guessing the prices the customer would pay, and doing that repeatedly for a multiplier bonus. The game never tells you this. So if you naturally set the prices high and the customer haggles you down, you will fail. This happens even if you sell every single item!
 
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Slap47 said:
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One must wonder what actually happened to these games...
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A translator isn't the be all end all, they tend to have an editor or a editorial team who will give a final say on the work. On a team, Members are aware of what information in the translated segments should come across to the players or how the language in question works because they themselves speak it.

For fan translation shit, there is none of this quality control.

IIRC Hatsu cared a whole fucking lot about how the Translations worked as far as tone and accuracy (jokes are something that will never be a 1:1 and are one thing that always needs a regional change) and it's the reason why NISA sought out her expertise when they were doing Cold Steel 3. She was pretty adamant that Trails stayed as true to source as possible.
 
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yeah xseed wasn't always so great. their translation of Zwei was just constant outdated memes that weren't in the original game and completely different character personalities. I don't even mean localisation for jokes that wouldn't translate well, it's just flat out replacement the whole way through. there's an unfinished fan translation showing what the game would be with an accurate translation and it's massively disappointing to see the difference. I dunno if the second game is as bad but I wouldn't even give it a chance.
 
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Pretty sure Xseed will die without Tom.
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It's already on it's last legs. They're only putting out two games in a quarter.

I got the PS4 remaster of Memories of Celceta and while it's good, the extras are kinda pathetic. The bromides are all Ys art we've gotten before in other pack-ins. The Vita version's extras are still available for sale on the website under merch(everything is 5 bucks and I would recommend getting any of the art books for that price they're over 100 pages outside of the Shantae one which is like only 80 pages). The odd thing is the CD set in MOC PS4 features Ys5 songs which we never got and their whole Ys site is really outdated and you can see the bitterness in them pretending that the NISA Ys games don't exist by claiming only they have published the latest Ys game in the timeline.

I just want a physical edition of TITS Trilogy before they fucking blast off and the rights are caught in legal hell. I have the PSP CE of TITS 1 and I was really disappointed that 2 and 3 didn't get a physical edition.
 
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