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Holy shit, I watched those episode so many time and I never realized it was the same actress. It's so obvious too, I can recall her voice and it was the same.
Rate me autistic, but Trek really got me to be able to recognize people by voices because they would so often look different with the makeup that to this day I can hear an actor without looking at a screen and identify which series they were on.

Before they landed on "Trials and Tribble-ations", one of the anniversary pitches was to have the DS9 crew beam down to the gangster world from "A Piece of the Action" only to discover the monkey-see-monkey-do aliens had taken it way too far: now they're cosplaying as Starfleet, like a stealth parody of Trekkies.
So they very nearly did GalaxyQuest before GalaxyQuest, eh?
 
So in this episode, The Doctor marries Francine from American Dad.
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His son becomes a Kligger. (Klingon-wigger)
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And his daughter fucking dies playing playing parrises squares.
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Carry on, Voyager.
 
It’s funny, nobody talks about the Abramsverse anymore. Like it never happened. Especially Into Darkness.
Every once in a while, I remember and get unreasonably angry about the part where Scotty flies a shuttle up to the top secret shipyard where the top secret Section 31 warship is being built, then just goes right in, lands in the shuttlebay where he sticks out like a sore thumb with his uniform, and at no point does anyone ask if he's supposed to be there.
Couldn't have him tech the tech all covert-like or anything like that. No cloaking devices, modified transponder, anything.
 
Every once in a while, I remember and get unreasonably angry about the part where Scotty flies a shuttle up to the top secret shipyard where the top secret Section 31 warship is being built, then just goes right in, lands in the shuttlebay where he sticks out like a sore thumb with his uniform, and at no point does anyone ask if he's supposed to be there.
He’s caught immediately snooping around the USS Vomitclaw or whatever, and has to play even dumber than usual just to buy time to escape.

Beyond felt almost like an apology, since he’s getting the Franklin warp-ready despite it being a hundred years old or something.
So in this episode, The Doctor marries Francine from American Dad.
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His son becomes a Kligger. (Klingon-wigger)
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And his daughter fucking dies playing playing parrises squares.
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Carry on, Voyager.
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This little fucker calls him a… what was it… a "bloodless petaQ."

Imagine your own son hitting you with that one. I'm not even a hologram and I feel proper humiliated.
 
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Beyond felt almost like an apology, since he’s getting the Franklin warp-ready despite it being a hundred years old or something.
Beyond is the only Abrams Trek I feel sorry for. It really tried its best, but it was stuck with the house style of the previous movies, so it had to have convoluted reasons for a motorcycle chase and a dumb, bland villain. It probably would have done okay if it wasn't paying the consequences of Into Darkness, which is a garbage movie.
 
Before they landed on "Trials and Tribble-ations", one of the anniversary pitches was to have the DS9 crew beam down to the gangster world from "A Piece of the Action" only to discover the monkey-see-monkey-do aliens had taken it way too far: now they're cosplaying as Starfleet, like a stealth parody of Trekkies.



In cannon I'm pretty sure that exactly what happened. I remember reading that when the next Starfleet ship visited the planet a few years later they found the inhabitants had reversed engineered the communicator McCoy left behind (cuz I guess the techno babble inside was the foundation of Fed Tech like Spock said...somehow) and were basically at Fed Tech levels and were granted instant membership in the Federation.

I always thought it was a bit weird that Kirk, knowing how quickly the locals assimilated technology, just shrugged at Bones' confession and broke orbit without doing a thing.
 
Wasn't STD made by people who weren't really familiar with the pre-JJ setting beyond maybe the basics of TOS?

Of course STD was also made for...

Critical Drinker - THE MESSAGE
 
STD was made by people who hate Star Trek and more importantly absolutely despise the audience it has.

I mean you can physically feel the disdain oozing through the screen in every choice the writers made during its run. they probably giggled and laughed everytime they wrote some new shit line that would destroy the old cannon, thinking of the incels raging impotently while watching it.

Sucks for them almost no one watched it. certainly not trekkies.
 
Before they landed on "Trials and Tribble-ations", one of the anniversary pitches was to have the DS9 crew beam down to the gangster world from "A Piece of the Action" only to discover the monkey-see-monkey-do aliens had taken it way too far: now they're cosplaying as Starfleet, like a stealth parody of Trekkies.



In cannon I'm pretty sure that exactly what happened. I remember reading that when the next Starfleet ship visited the planet a few years later they found the inhabitants had reversed engineered the communicator McCoy left behind (cuz I guess the techno babble inside was the foundation of Fed Tech like Spock said...somehow) and were basically at Fed Tech levels and were granted instant membership in the Federation.

I always thought it was a bit weird that Kirk, knowing how quickly the locals assimilated technology, just shrugged at Bones' confession and broke orbit without doing a thing.
That would be pretty funny, actually. Get the nerds from Galaxy Quest and they speak in complete technobabble... which I suppose is standard Voyager writing. Janeway sure gets stuck having to say some pretty convoluted words a lot.
 
I've previously said that the Voyager Chakotay/Seven "romance subplot" near the end of Voyager comes the fuck out of nowhere, and goes nowhere. While the second part of that is still absolutely true... especially if you include STP where Seven becomes a lesbian with that crackhead woman...
...I am seeing what could have been seeds of an early romance between the two from "Scorpion Part II". Chakotay is the one who physically frees her from the Borg collective. I don't remember them ever mentioning that as being a thing that ties the two of them together again after this episode, but in a better-written show, it certainly should have been...

As of part-way through "The Gift", I still don't think that Voyager has surpassed DS9 yet, but I obviously do still like it quite a lot.
However, many episodes last season were pretty bad, and not even in an interesting way...
Bonus: Rare Seven of Nine Face Palm
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It wasn't even remotely close to the worst episode last season. If I'm being honest, it was actually pretty fun... but it's probably for the best that I didn't mention the episode where Clifford Main from Better Call Saul tries to kill Sarah Silverman in 1996... So I'll mention it now!

It wanted so badly to be Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.
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I guess it partially succeeded, because I'm comparing the two semi-favorably right now. Haha.
Trek (Before JJ Trek at least) actually has a pretty good track record for time travel episodes.

That's all I got right now, other than... I remember Chuck (SFDebris) saying that Seven would have had better character progression if they had kept her in the Borg suit for at the very least more than just the one episode, ideally for the rest of the season. With her stupidly quick physical transformation still fresh in my mind, I have to say that I definitely agree.
 
They really thought every single Q loved cosplaying as old soldiers, even though as far back as "Encounter at Farpoint", our Q changed costumes to mock humanity's militaristic past. It's the whole reason why Q usually wears a Starfleet uniform when visiting Picard. I've mentioned this before, but even the Picard show better understood Q, he made himself look older just to "match" Picard.
Q fighting Harve Presnell in a civil war reenactment... They could’ve made him a French revolutionary, a Boston tea-thrower, but no, they went with the most on-the-nose “Civil War” because they assume the audience has the literacy of a dog. They didn’t even bother to give Lady Q or Janeway some corsets to get their tits out. Nothing!
I love how VOY handles Q as a concept. He's not a space demon beckoning humanity toward their luciferian apotheosis like he is in TnG (which is pretty implicitly a veneer of scientism overlaying an occult worldview).

In VOY, he's just a guy with personal problems and the Q are just guys. There's nothing numinous about it.
 
It wanted so badly to be Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.
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I guess it partially succeeded, because I'm comparing the two semi-favorably right now. Haha.
If there’s one thing I’ll hand to VOY it’s that you could take half those two-parters and have a feature film. Borg Heist Film! Casablanca… in space! Way better than those feature films they actually made.

Deep Space Nine had better writing, better direction... but, nearly every time they went for a two-parter, it was just actors talking next to a blinking light bulb.

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That's all I got right now, other than... I remember Chuck (SFDebris) saying that Seven would have had better character progression if they had kept her in the Borg suit for at the very least more than just the one episode
Wasn’t gonna happen. You couldn’t escape the marketing. EXCLUSIVE: Jeri Ryan's hooters in tight spandex plastered on every magazine rack.
 
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I absolutely love that so much of TOS is "what does the costume department have available this week" schlock that because of the actors, actually works
Eh, it doesn't always work. Remember the one with the ghost lawyer in a muumuu?
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and that's how there is...

🔵 the ancient Rome but modern planet
🔵 the 1920s gangster planet
🟠 the Nazi planet
Starting to see where the Holodeck malfunction episodes came from.
Before they landed on "Trials and Tribble-ations", one of the anniversary pitches was to have the DS9 crew beam down to the gangster world from "A Piece of the Action" only to discover the monkey-see-monkey-do aliens had taken it way too far: now they're cosplaying as Starfleet, like a stealth parody of Trekkies.
Didn't Species 8472 do that in an episode of Voyager?
So in this episode, The Doctor marries Francine from American Dad.
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His son becomes a Kligger. (Klingon-wigger)
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And his daughter fucking dies playing playing parrises squares.
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Carry on, Voyager.
The best part was that it happened because B'Elanna tampered with the program to teach the Doctor a lesson about "real life".
 
Imagine your own son hitting you with that one. I'm not even a hologram and I feel proper humiliated.
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Really now, is there any Klingon more motivational than Gowron? Sure we all love Martok but is his disappointment really that devastating compared to the big G?
 
Deep Space Nine had better writing, better direction... but, nearly every time they went for a two-parter
I was quite surprised when they made the first three part episode. I think the one with Frank Langella and Richard Beymer. That was really a taste of things to come for ds9. Too bad neither of those guys came back.

Bareil was kind of weird and creepy. Apparently the writers thought so too and sent him to heaven albeit nobly. Shakaar just kind of petered out, ended up super lame and getting cucked by Odo, the O'Briens, and Kai Winn. I feel like the Bajoran politics could have been so much more. And I think the only time we had Dominion interference was the one with the baseball card & soulless minions of orthodoxy. Weyoun would have been playing all sides.
 
I was quite surprised when they made the first three part episode. I think the one with Frank Langella and Richard Beymer. That was really a taste of things to come for ds9. Too bad neither of those guys came back.

Bareil was kind of weird and creepy. Apparently the writers thought so too and sent him to heaven albeit nobly. Shakaar just kind of petered out, ended up super lame and getting cucked by Odo, the O'Briens, and Kai Winn. I feel like the Bajoran politics could have been so much more. And I think the only time we had Dominion interference was the one with the baseball card & soulless minions of orthodoxy. Weyoun would have been playing all sides.
Bajoran politics as a whole were boring that petered out by The Circle. They start off at practically zero and have to worry about the agricultural concerns of some continent that we never see (and would be disappointing if we did) and if it weren't for the Emissary actually going to talk to the Prophets, they'd be stuck trying to divine their intentions via orbs. Poorly since they were willing to go back to the caste system because some guy told them to and the Prophets don't care one way or the other.

EDIT: It is very strange that the Bajorans even bother to do the Catholic thing of revealing the Prophet's will via Emissary rather than using their ships to go into the Wormhole and talking to them directly. They really should be shifting over to Quakerism in modern times while the Cleric class freaks out about the loss of political power. Their entire civilization is built on sustaining rituals that the Prophets couldn't care less about in any way.
 
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I was quite surprised when they made the first three part episode. I think the one with Frank Langella and Richard Beymer. That was really a taste of things to come for ds9. Too bad neither of those guys came back.

Bareil was kind of weird and creepy. Apparently the writers thought so too and sent him to heaven albeit nobly. Shakaar just kind of petered out, ended up super lame and getting cucked by Odo, the O'Briens, and Kai Winn. I feel like the Bajoran politics could have been so much more. And I think the only time we had Dominion interference was the one with the baseball card & soulless minions of orthodoxy. Weyoun would have been playing all sides.

There’s definitely some good and bad about "The Circle". It's one of the only times the show really tried to make the Bajorans interesting. Stephen Macht (who is German but always gets cast as ethnics) is great as the Bajoran officer who’s technically a bad guy but respects Sisko too much to go full Patton. It’s that Picard thing where one guy’s decency is so blindingly obvious that it melts bureaucratic discipline.

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Beymer popping up is a surprise. Li Nalas… yeah, not exactly going to be carved on the Mount Rushmore of sci-fi characters, but his whole “war hero who's actually some random bum” thing was at least something.:punished:

Langella, what a bore. If you weren’t around in the 90s, it’s hard to convey how everywhere that guy was, and not in a good way. He was part of that weird class (Malcolm McDowell, Pete Postlethwaite) who were in absolutely everything, always giving these hacky performances in total garbage. If I’m being a jerk about it I'd say the only good Langella role from that period is Boris in The Ninth Gate.
 
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