Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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I don't know how CBS can keep giving us these shitty trailers that don't generate any hype or just kill it from the start.
...and where do they find all that money to waste on STD? It looks like they went overseas to shoot a big part of the season, that's not cheap.
The trailer was so incredibly generic I got nothing out of it.
It's a bad remake of Andromeda. At least now that the merger happened, they don't have to butcher the designs of the alien races anymore, same goes for the ship designs (the trailer for Picard had the Enterprise D and a TOS era Romulan ship).
I wish they'd just give up on Spock.
I agree but he's a member berry, Kurtzman won't let him go.
 
One thing the TOS movies, even the bad ones, have over the TNG movies is that the TOS movies tend to keep the characters intact, while the TNG movies shit all over them. That's why I still find something like The Final Frontier to be a fun movie while Insurrection and Nemesis just make me miserable.
Didn't Plinkett basically describe the TNG films as a Picard and Data buddy cop series?
 
Someone above said that Netflix paid for all production costs when it bought the overseas rights, making STD essentially 'free' for CBS All Access.
Agreed, Midnight's Edge went into the finances quite a bit. It's why Netflix was so anti picking up anything by them again, because they got burned so much by the shitty end result that nobody wanted to watch.
 
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Good lord this shit looks like a pre-rendered cutscene from a Playstation 1 game.
 
I'm calling it right now. Since Burnham is apparently the extra special-ist, most imporant-ist member of StarFleet in all history, yet never once gets mentioned outside of STD, even by people who apparently know her... She's going to end up sacrificing herself (in true Mary-Sue fashion) in a way that removes everyone's memory of her as well, because she's just too damn perfect for this universe -gag-
 
I'm calling it right now. Since Burnham is apparently the extra special-ist, most imporant-ist member of StarFleet in all history, yet never once gets mentioned outside of STD, even by people who apparently know her... She's going to end up sacrificing herself (in true Mary-Sue fashion) in a way that removes everyone's memory of her as well, because she's just too damn perfect for this universe -gag-
As long as it removes her from my memory too I'll accept that ending.
 
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Good lord this shit looks like a pre-rendered cutscene from a Playstation 1 game.

God fucking Damn It. Picard is going to be the captain of a Defiant Class battlecruiser.

I called it. I fucking called it. Nu Trek is going to use the Defiant not as an allegory that war can be unavoidable as DS9 so expertly dealt with, but as an in your face baseball bat for "war am bad". Truly nothing is sacred for the hacks at CBS, not even the one warship of starfleet that existed as a horrible contradiction that took entire seasons to unpack. But nah. Fuck it. Lets put picard in it and have it blow starfleet ships up. Why the fuck not. Just blow it all up. pew pew. Its what the ignorant rubes who like this shit want, right? When will these fucking morons realize that Star Trek is not Star Wars? Its TREK, as in Journey, or exploration. There is no WAR.

DS9 only worked because they took the Trek premise and then over several seasons presented it with an escalating moral conundrum. The Defiant being a major part of that conundrum. It took an entire season from the Defiants reveal to the moment we actually saw the thing fire its main guns. The writers and show runners viewed the ship as a metaphor for the terrible destructive power of war, and humanities ability to use its intelligence to make awesome weapons of destruction. The thing was an atavistic representation of our worst impulses turned to necessary ends. Not some sort of pew pew whoa special effects for the brainlets to drool over thing.

Gahh I am raging so hard atm.
 
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And the official trailer for the Picard show:
This is so incredibly schizophrenic in the way it jumps back and forth between old people talking and hugging in soft, warm light ('memba TNG? I 'memba TNG) and pew pew laser and katana battles in near darkness to attract the "new audience".

Oh and if the place Picard meets Troi and Riker is the Nexus from Generations I'm gonna laugh my ass off.
 
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Out of nowhere, we got two trailers.
A trailer for STD S3:
(there's one on YT as well but it isn't available outside the US)
And the official trailer for the Picard show:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QvKBeOKvblIoh, and apparently the new season of Short Treks is also out, lmao.

Brent Spiner is the man, but damn, it breaks my heart to see chubby Data. I wonder how they'll address that in the show.
I have a hunch that Spiner either didn't really want the role or he's not in the show for too long, otherwise, they'd most likely shelled out a few bucks for a dietary aid, so Spiner looks more like the part of Data...

The trailer was so incredibly generic I got nothing out of it. Aside from ofc #qween Michael being important yet again. But I don't know how CBS can keep giving us these shitty trailers that don't generate any hype or just kill it from the start. When Joker's trailer got released, it fucking convinced me to watch the movie because it looked amazing. STD was just bland.
It's terrible. Nothing inspires hype or even just hope. It looks bland, stupid, boring and offensive. The main issue with STD was always the atrocious characters and the ridiculous technobabble-spore-drive, neither is going anywhere, so STD will be stuck with this garbage.

As if sending the ship into the future wasn't bad enough, the show is Andromeda now, of all things?
It's great, we learn that Starfleet went tits up somewhere in the future. That's what fans want to see, right? Their iconic things being trampled for cheap shocks.
Easily the most ridiculous part is where we're supposed to assume that a ship from the 23th century will hold up a candle to ships a thousand years in the future. That's as if a viking ship was participating at the Battle of Midway. The Discovery should be obliterated by the most light of armaments within seconds, given the future-toys that some time travel episodes in Voyager hinted at.

The saddest thing about it: The overall cinematography looks pretty slick, the effects look cool... but ffs nothing makes sense and what glimpses of a story we get is unadultered, raw sewage. It's disgusting.
And of course, Burnham. My god, Burnham.
Would it kill that actress to emote for once?
She always makes this face:
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What were they thinking, when they made this show?
Even Voyager has its fans to this day, but STD, I can't imagine anyone is going to fondly remember that in just 5 years.
As long as it removes her from my memory too I'll accept that ending.
Half a gallon of cheap whiskey will do the trick.

Oh and if the place Picard meets Troi and Riker is the Nexus from Generations I'm gonna laugh my ass off.
Plottwist: It's the Nexus, but will is in there alone.
 
Brent Spiner is the man, but damn, it breaks my heart to see chubby Data. I wonder how they'll address that in the show.
I have a hunch that Spiner either didn't really want the role or he's not in the show for too long, otherwise, they'd most likely shelled out a few bucks for a dietary aid, so Spiner looks more like the part of Data...

By itself it's easy enough to explain by just saying he was surrounded by people who were aging and wanted to seem less like a machine by appearing to age himself.
 
The first Shortbus Trek is out apparently.

Also is this the new gender-neutral character?
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Someone above said that Netflix paid for all production costs when it bought the overseas rights, making STD essentially 'free' for CBS All Access.
Yeah but that was for the first season. The second one was financed by CBS entirely and Netflix paid way less for the rights outside of the US.

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Good lord this shit looks like a pre-rendered cutscene from a Playstation 1 game.
Also why are they using a Romulan Bird-of-Prey from the TOS era?
 
Brent Spiner is the man, but damn, it breaks my heart to see chubby Data. I wonder how they'll address that in the show.
I have a hunch that Spiner either didn't really want the role or he's not in the show for too long, otherwise, they'd most likely shelled out a few bucks for a dietary aid, so Spiner looks more like the part of Data...
They can Walk of Shame it and awkwardly de-age his jowls and paste the result onto a body double :optimistic:
 
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