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I like TNG but DS9 is on another level. Those actors would have otherwise been wasted on sitcoms and guest spots. Take Andy Robinson. Dirty Harry, Hellraiser and...uhh.
Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier
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It's hilarious that in Voyager the first and one of the few people on it that ever kills someone is fucking Neelix.
It's so annoying that the Kazon are a bunch of ruthless murderers that only respect violence and the entire time Janeway is like "oh we can talk it out!"
It's so annoying that the Kazon are a bunch of ruthless murderers that only respect violence and the entire time Janeway is like "oh we can talk it out!"
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Season one Neelix is like if the ship picked up a homeless addict and made him their health inspector.
Seasons 3-5 were just nonstop kiddie-ass plots but it's better than him accidentally poisoning the ship with his slop.
It got so bad that even the actors were like, “These guys aren't scary,” in interviews. Berman’s in the background like, arms crossed, “See? I told you.” Which is the worst possible outcome spiritually.
Michael Piller just didn’t have it.
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A TAS equivalent of Sealab 2021 would possibly be the greatest thing ever.
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Picardo showing us bigots how it really is.
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Star Trek was never woke. Remember when Uhura lectured Fake Abe about using slurs?
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The best and brightest in the 32nd century eat their combadges. At this point I want them to put Not Sure out of the freezer and make him UFP-president to fix the galaxy.
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O'Brien used slurs for Cardassians. It wasn't portrayed as the best thing ever but he also wasn't demonized and treated like he did an unthinkable hate crime. It was understood that O'Brien was a complex person who's had to do horrible things during the Cardassian war. It forged the man he is, while he hold resentment for Cardassians that he will likely never let go, he still became a great man. And in the end, O'Brien's qualities make up for his flaws.
"Its not YOU I hate, Cardassian... I hate what I became, BECAUSE of you."
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Or when Picard was fine with Data's friend's planet blowing up and all of them dying because it would go against the Prime Directive to help them. Worf pretty much said "she's not my friend, I don't care" and nobody thinks he's a bad person for saying it. Riker also calls him a coward for choosing euthanasia because Riker's from Alaska, not Canada.
They also consider the classics the epitome of human culture.
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LEAVE THE CORPORATE PRODUCT ALONE CHUD
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If he really believes that, he should quit his job, because he is a white male and therefore an oppressor who only has it due to unearned privilege. The role belongs to a Queer Woman of Color. (In b4 Afro Puffs' story arc is that her programming merges with The Doctor, allowing her to take over for him in season 2)
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, the Section 31 movie got nominated for an NAACP Image Award.Some other retarded stuff:
What the fuck is he talking about? Earth, after "The Burn", was so isolated they didn't even know the raiders from Jupiter were human.Alex Kurtzman said:
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>Starfleet Academy le good
>War College LE BAD
This shit is straight ouf of "Police Academy". I wanna know who the Proctor of this shitshow is.
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I found Neelix incredibly unlikable and annoying. I, like many others, greatly enjoyed the scene where Tuvok choked him to death (sadly just a Holodeck projection). I also liked it when Q addressed him as, "You, Bar Rodent..."
Also, Kes was a pointless and immensely boring character.
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I dislike this argument. Actually the Greatest Generation didn’t fight fascism, they just really loved war and hated foreigners. They were so hopped up on bombing Japs that they accidentally defeated Nazism.
Laws against interracial marriage were still on the books when Star Trek aired. So, yes, if you rewind the tape a few generations, even people we’d comfortably file under “the left” were more casually racist,
I can’t watch Q without feeling like the writers are just passive-aggressively roasting their own show.“What if I just do Agent Smith shit and shut Neelix’s mouth forever,” that's not even a joke, that’s fanservice. Like the writers left a note in the margins which says, “Neelix talks too much, please help.” And then his kid goes around the ship yelling at everyone for just running scans all day. Which is on point, because that’s literally the entire show. “Captain, I’m detecting…"
It sucks Kes was already gone because Q absolutely would’ve cooked her, “Why are you still here? You’re supposed to be a one-episode alien.”
I like Jennifer Lien, she’s fine, but Kes is 100% a guest character who is just there to be like, “I am the nice alien who proves the Federation is good.” On any other Star Trek she’d be gone after *Caretaker*. Like, “Thanks for the moral lesson, see ya never.” But on VOY they’re like, “She lives here now.”
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At their core, the Kazon are supposed to be nigger-coded, because that's what gang members are really. But they can't write niggers as they are because it's deeply offensive to do so, especially in the mid to late 90s where Black people on TV were The Cosby Show and Fresh Prince of Bel Air. And really, if they did accurately write space niggers having nigga moments, we'd agree with Tom "Maybe they commit more crimes" Paris and adopt a shoot first, ask questions later policy, which is fundamentally contrary to Star Trek's ethos. So Kazon dialogue had them talking in that semi-formal cadence than the Klingons had, but they lacked direction and clear desires and ended up as Villain of the Week fodder where the Hirogen did a better job--and still kinda meh at that--of what the Kazon were trying to do.
That episode of TNG where they meet Yar's sister might have done this gang society concept better and that episode wasn't that locked on it either.
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Kazon are so funny because they’re like, “We live in shit, we eat garbage, our society is collapsing,” and also they’re like, “We will DESTROY YOU with our enormous ships that look like a dildo if it got lost in your ass! We run this city now!”
Judging from interviews during that period, there is this low-key racial panic running through the Star Trek creatives. (I'm not claiming deep knowledge on it, other reviewers like Darren Mooney have done the real homework on this.) So with the Kazon, what you get is this kind of impotent venting.
Janeway's approach to dealing with the Kazon is very much Clinton operating as the world’s cop. So Star Trek ends up tying itself into knots, and it's not surprising that they end up glazing Bush as the pinnacle of Federation values.
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I have information that would lead to the arrest of Admiral Janeway...Janeway's approach to dealing with the Kazon is very much Clinton operating as the world’s cop. So Star Trek ends up tying itself into knots, and it's not surprising that they end up glazing Bush as the pinnacle of Federation values.
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