Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

Wasn't Tilly an engineer, "I fucking love science" type of character on Discovery? So why the fuck is she teaching theatre?
Star Trek is either doing self-parody on purpose, or the showrunner is slamming every wokie button on the dashboard like he’s trying to land a crashing plane.
 
The idea that everyone just signs a piece of paper like "let bygones be bygones"? After all the bullshit the Vulcans and Tellarites put Archer (and Forrest) through?!
Archer had the full backing of the Andorian government, mostly to piss off the Vulcans but also because Shran is a true bro.
or else I will declare martial law and force everyone to watch and discuss Babylon 5, Sliders, and/or Space: Above and Beyond.
Add Gerry Anderson's UFO to that list.
I also thought pretty much every main human character except Garibaldi lacked charisma.
The reason you know that B5 isn't Star Trek is because you forget that the Doctor exists half the time whereas in Trek they're always memorable, if not for the right reasons.
 
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Tilly so fat Captain Sulu catalogues her gaseous anomalies. In other news, I have declared a jihad on all theater kids. Inshallah, we shall throw them into the sea.
This is going to be the worst or second-worst episode of anything with "Star Trek" in the title. It's up against the Discovery episode that explained that the Burn was caused by somebody crying around a bunch of dilithium for the "honor" of being the new "Threshold" or "Spock's Brain".

Exact wording matters, however: I still hate "Into Darkness" more than anything else. ("Section 31" came close, but it did not have that fucking scene where Scotty waltzes into Space Area 51 without changing uniforms and dicking around with that shuttle's transponder holy shit somebody kill JJ Abrams in Star Trek Online)
 
Star Trek is either doing self-parody on purpose, or the showrunner is slamming every wokie button on the dashboard like he’s trying to land a crashing plane.
They know this is the last chance to make Woke Trek so they're going balls to the wall. There's rumors they'll be dumping season 2 later this year before Kurtzman's contract isn't renewed.
 
Tilly so fat Captain Sulu catalogues her gaseous anomalies. In other news, I have declared a jihad on all theater kids. Inshallah, we shall throw them into the sea.
Statecraft is not theater, statecraft is grand spreadsheetery combined with being a machiavellian fuck who needs to stay ahead of curve internationally to keep their people relevant on the international/platenary/stellar/galactic level.
The theme song is essential listening.
Inferior to the original.
 
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That's exactly the same kind of resting bitch face he does on the blu ray interviews too.

Jolene might as well have Facetimed in. She barely speaks, looks like she regrets ever acting, and when the Trip/T’Pol relationship comes up she meekly admits she objected to it.
I can't decide if that one is worse than Chakotay and Seven.
 
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The reason you know that B5 isn't Star Trek is because you forget that the Doctor exists half the time whereas in Trek they're always memorable, if not for the right reasons.
That was definitely something that surprised me when I started watching B5 after coming off of DS9, how sometimes you'll go an episode or two without seeing certain characters, even the ones in the main cast.
 
Statecraft is not theater, statecraft is grand spreadsheetery combined with being a machiavellian fuck who needs to stay ahead of curve internationally to keep their people relevant on the international/platenary/stellar/galactic level.
What, don't you remember Louis XIV having 'Statecraft is Theatre' inscribed on his cannons?
 
Statecraft is not theater, statecraft is grand spreadsheetery combined with being a machiavellian fuck who needs to stay ahead of curve internationally to keep their people relevant on the international/platenary/stellar/galactic level.
If there's one group of people even less suited to run a modern complex nationstate than the absolute, incompetent muppets that are currently running modern complex nationstates, it's Hollywood writers and actors. On the other hand, I'd love to see them try.
 
You just know there's going to be shills saying "Well, Picard was a fan of Shakespeare, so it's fine and totally the same thing! Why are you complaining?!"
 
You can’t bring back the Pakleds now unless they’re literally just the Academy writers.
The orange and teal thing finally crawled into a grave in 2020, but Kurtzman operates on a time delay.
I thought that was still going strong. Either way, it looks so unrealistic. Gloomy indoor teal scenes, apocalyptic-looking orange scenes outdoors. Seems like every new movie is -- or was -- that way, and of course post-JJ Star Trek isn't an exception. Speaking of "reverse Midas touch" and JJ Abrams, JJ Abrams definitely has that on scifi series.
 
Who's willing to bet that Tilly is just filling in for the usual professor while winging it? Either that, or she was meant to teach engineering before the more qualified Reno got the job.
What a joke that Tilly gets assigned to the Beta Quadrant. The writers are like, We need her somewhere… just not someplace important.
Has anything major ever happened in the Beta Quadrant, or is it the Delaware of the galaxy?
Wasn't Tilly an engineer, "I fucking love science" type of character on Discovery? So why the fuck is she teaching theatre? That whole scene screams of retarded theatre kids with no experience of anything writing the show.
In another show, this could work. Tilly having an artistic side through her knowledge of theatre could expand her character as more than Discovery's rookie. Maybe going to a lot of plays as a kid made her want to be a Starfleet captain in the first place.

Unfortunately, this has the same depth as Chakotay's boxing ambitions. It's just there for the story, not the character.
Statecraft is not theater, statecraft is grand spreadsheetery combined with being a machiavellian fuck who needs to stay ahead of curve internationally to keep their people relevant on the international/platenary/stellar/galactic level.
The writers probably heard critics mention the older shows referencing theatre, so they figured doing a theatre episode would make them look good.

Unfortunately, they think knowing about theatre amounts to watching Epic: The Musical animatics on YouTube.
I can't decide if that one is worse than Chakotay and Seven.
At least they spent more than two episodes with T'Pol and Tucker.
 
I can't decide if that one is worse than Chakotay and Seven.
It always should have been Seven and the Doctor.
Has anything major ever happened in the Beta Quadrant, or is it the Delaware of the galaxy?
The Klingon Empire is traditionally located there, but they blew that up, so it's more like a depopulated Serbia these days.
 
Wasn't Tilly an engineer, "I fucking love science" type of character on Discovery? So why the fuck is she teaching theatre? That whole scene screams of retarded theatre kids with no experience of anything writing the show.
This is Potter Trek, where training naval cadets consists of whimsy, heccin science, and gay sex.
 
You know what bugs me the most about the Enterprise opening and that Brian Adams song. While I actually like the song, I like the message and it is fitting, it's just annoying because it doesn't feel like Star Trek and worse yet, the ending theme is clearly meant to be the Enterprise theme. It's motif shows up in the show a lot and it actually feels like a Star Trek theme and the classic guitar help give it that "It's Star Trek, but a little contemporary". I'd love to hear a opening version of it. Since usually in all three other series the Ending was basically a more upbeat version of the opening theme.

Edit: Also am I the only one who feels that without the Paramount jingle the theme isn't complete?
 
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The reason you know that B5 isn't Star Trek is because you forget that the Doctor exists half the time whereas in Trek they're always memorable, if not for the right reasons.
I actually genuinely forgot about the doctor in B5 when I wrote that post. I was only thinking of Tron, Susan, and Talia, who all just never worked for me. I also forgot about Marcus, but I actually kind of liked Marcus.
There's rumors they'll be dumping season 2 later this year before Kurtzman's contract isn't renewed.
I want to celebrate this but I have this weird feeling that whoever replaces him will somehow be even worse. I hate to say it but that's usually how it turns out these days.
 
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