Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Erischan said:
I like science vessels.
My favorite is the Nova Class. It's the same basic model as Voyager but ~50% scale. It has 8 decks and a crew of less than 100 so it's nice and cozy. I'd like to be a nice cozy lieutenant working on a Nova Class ship as a science officer. We'd follow up on planets recorded by Exploration ships, once they had scouted it for safety and weird plot contrivances. I'd just study geology and atmospherics and maybe collect some bugs and then head back to a starbase where i show my friend on the holodeck my weird obsession with the game snooker.

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What about being the head inventor on a ship that follows along behind the Enterprise, studying all of the weird happenings and turning them into crazy inventions for profit. Transporter malfunction turned the away team into children? Hello de-aging ray! Live your life again! Hold questionable debates about the age of consent!

Alien technology wipes the memories of everyone aboard? Welcome to the holocinema! Watch a movie, then forget it and watch it all over again! Every TV series is only one episode long! Had a bad fight with the wife? Bam, there go her memories!
 
Just finished S4E16 Accession of DS9, not going to lie it is genuinely heartwarming to see Sisko accept and begin to enjoy being Emissary by the end, given how reluctant he's been about it through the whole series. Avery Brooks just has this way of emoting through his expressions and voice that is amazing, imo.
 
Riker comes off as a leering creep in so many S1 episodes. I'm glad they toned down the "Kirkness" to a more manageable level as the series went on. Some of his lines are just cringy embarrassing. The episode "Justice" when he sees the scantily clad Eloi or whatever they're called running towards him, "they certainly are...fit".


Picard: "Will,please sit down. We've been getting a lot of complaints about you lately, A LOT. I'm afraid I'm going to need you to report to HR at your earliest convenience".
 
Starscreams Cape said:
Riker comes off as a leering creep in so many S1 episodes. I'm glad they toned down the "Kirkness" to a more manageable level as the series went on. Some of his lines are just cringy embarrassing. The episode "Justice" when he sees the scantily clad Eloi or whatever they're called running towards him, "they certainly are...fit".


Picard: "Will,please sit down. We've been getting a lot of complaints about you lately, A LOT. I'm afraid I'm going to need you to report to HR at your earliest convenience".
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LOL as if riker hadn't already railed the HR director.
 
I just realized that if they do decide to reference The Doctor in Picard, it’ll be that the character is dead because after the whole freak out and forbidding androids to exist, they probably felt the same about holograms and turned him off for good. Because everything has to be dark and depressing.

And now I’m pissed.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
I just realized that if they do decide to reference The Doctor in Picard, it’ll be that the character is dead because after the whole freak out and forbidding androids to exist, they probably felt the same about holograms and turned him off for good. Because everything has to be dark and depressing.

And now I’m pissed.
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This is another proof that Kurtzman and his team have never watched Star Trek. Why would the Federation build androids cylons synths™ when they could use holograms like the EMH? ...especially after Voyager.
 
Miller said:
This is another proof that Kurtzman and his team have never watched Star Trek. Why would the Federation build androids cylons synths™ when they could use holograms like the EMH? ...especially after Voyager.
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The androids are expected to do actual work in Mars(?), so I guess they needed them to physically exist. But then, it'd make more sense to build robots, not androids. We already have robots performing tasks we humans can't and we haven't given them consciousness because why would we?

The whole synths shit made no sense when we already had the Romulan plot. It wasn't enough that humans are awful xenophobic bigots who hate Romulans, we also are awful xenophobic bigots who hate androids.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
The androids are expected to do actual work in Mars(?), so I guess they needed them to physically exist.
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Yes but the Doctor on Voyager had a device on his arm that allowed him to interact with the real world. It's safe to imagine that once back home, Starfleet or the Federation would have mass produced that device for other holograms.
But then, it'd make more sense to build robots, not androids.
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Exactly. It makes no sense to have androids when they could make robots that could build ships like they build cars today.
It wasn't enough that humans are awful xenophobic bigots who hate Romulans, we also are awful xenophobic bigots who hate androids.
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...and at the end it turned out that the Federation and the Romulans were right. The synths were (are?) a threat.
 
The synths are a threat because humans became assholes all of a sudden. People treated Data with wonder because he was a novelty at first, but when they got used to him after he enrolled in SF, people accepted him. Yes, some were wary about him, but they got over it.

That makes so odd that, after Starfleet knew that Data was able to be a capable individual, their people treated the new ones so bad. It was like if everybody just decides to hate Ferengis and bully them because they're short.

Miller said:
Yes but the Doctor on Voyager had a device on his arm that allowed him to interact with the real world. It's safe to imagine that once back home, Starfleet or the Federation would have mass produced that device for other holograms.
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The RLM guys are right, these people haven't even watched TNG... I doubt they even know Voyager exists.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
I just realized that if they do decide to reference The Doctor in Picard, it’ll be that the character is dead because after the whole freak out and forbidding androids to exist, they probably felt the same about holograms and turned him off for good. Because everything has to be dark and depressing.
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You're expecting some internal logical consistency from their writing. They'll do whatever they feel like and think will help their ratings.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
The androids are expected to do actual work in Mars(?), so I guess they needed them to physically exist. But then, it'd make more sense to build robots, not androids. We already have robots performing tasks we humans can't and we haven't given them consciousness because why would we?

The whole synths shit made no sense when we already had the Romulan plot. It wasn't enough that humans are awful xenophobic bigots who hate Romulans, we also are awful xenophobic bigots who hate androids.
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Wasn’t there an entire asteroid being manned by Doctor Holograms because the program was deemed a failure? It was the episode that The Doctor wrote his novel.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
The synths are a threat because humans became assholes all of a sudden. People treated Data with wonder because he was a novelty at first, but when they got used to him after he enrolled in SF, people accepted him. Yes, some were wary about him, but they got over it.

That makes so odd that, after Starfleet knew that Data was able to be a capable individual, their people treated the new ones so bad. It was like if everybody just decides to hate Ferengis and bully them because they're short.
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At least when I watched episode 2, it looked like the synths were the equivalent of assembly line robots with just slightly better vocal interaction. Humans towards them didn't seem all that different from how they treat other machines.

Which is why I did cheer when they started killing all humans.

SteelPlatedHeart said:
Wasn’t there an entire asteroid being manned by Doctor Holograms because the program was deemed a failure? It was the episode that The Doctor wrote his novel.
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He tries telling a story to inspire people to look at holograms differently, but all he does is upset his shipmates by making them look like unsympathetic jerkwads.​

So, the Doctor is the head writer for Picard?
 
Tasty Tatty said:
I doubt they even know Voyager exists.
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They've heard of the name but they didn't watch it.
There's a weird line of dialogue from Seven at the end of the season where she says to RomuLegolas that she "has no friends". What happened to Chakotay? The crew of the Voyager? Instead she is now a lesbian who can handle alcohol.
 
Preferred Penne said:
You would learn to play it safe.

And you'll never, EVER, get noticed by anyone.
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In my version of that episode Q would tempt me with a version of reality where I'm a badass go-getter with my own ship and i'd just be like "Nah I'm cool. That sounds stressful. Wanna play snooker? It's like pool kinda." Then I'd go back to doing geology in my comfy turquoise uniform with one dot on the collar.
 
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