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The funny thing is, as that "It's a Wonderful Life...errr...Career" Q episode showed, Picard had plenty of hair when he was young.
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Shinzon shaved his head to look like a Reman, or something r-slurred like that.
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I remember Mike dedicating a whole segment of his Plinkett review of Nemesis to the idiocy of bald cadet Picard. Despite previously showing young Picard with hair in the show, and despite Patrick Stewart not even being fully bald by the time Nemesis rolled around, they just assumed the audience would be too dumb to understand that Picard was looking at a picture of his younger self unless he was also bald in the picture, and also too dumb to understand that Shinzon was a Picard clone unless young Picard was already bald.
I did like his (joking) theory that the picture is after cadet Picard lost a bet, though.
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As terrible as the state of Star Trek has been lately, I feel like it would be easier to fix or hand wave the damage to the franchise then it would be with star wars. Those poor bastards pissed away the whole barn.
I kinda get the complaint, but it seems like such a petty ass thing to nitpick when you can come up with a decent reason for it in your head.
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Consider this was the mid 90s and a whole lot of people took the time out of their lives to write actual letters to the producers because they enjoyed the character and actor so much.
Granted, that doesn't mean the writers have to acquiesce or that they should have, but your whole edgelord take of "lol those people don't matter at all because I dislike the character" is pretty fucking stupid.
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I don't give a tenpenny fuck about soap actor Philip Anglim.
If that me makes an edgelord, fine.
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I feel like the only one that despises the flying sex toys they try to pass off as canon ships in STO and Nu trek over the last decade or so now.
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So, I was thinking about the Orville episode All the World is Birthday Cake or the Astrology episode and how it's one of the bad Orville episodes when compared to its TNG base episode First Contact.
So, the basic premise is this 20th century civilization hates people born under the astrological sign of Gilliac and arrests them for superstitious reasons. The conflict is that said civilization arrest Union officers at a State banquet celebrating meeting the Orville crew. To compare and contrast, in First Contact, the Malconians at large don't know aliens exist; that's why Riker is such a medical curiosity. In the Gilliac episode, their First Prefect formally opens relations to the Union at a very public State dinner, so the First Prefect can't cover up the existence of aliens.
Second, the First Prefect himself is about as smart as Krola, the conservative guy that tried to get himself shot by Riker's unconscious hand. Making the leader himself as this one-dimensional superstitious fool is a serious downgrade from the Chancellor who has to act like a wise statesman as he carefully weighs the options. From the First Prefect's perspective, he might have started a war with space-faring aliens over his religion. Why? Not just because public opinion requires him to act that way, but because he personally believes Gilliacs must be arrested. He just happens to be lucky the Union adamantly refuse to use force.
Which brings me to the Union's response. The admiral tells Captain Mercer that force is not allowed and that a diplomatic envoy will be dispatched to negotiate the release of his officers. It seems like a standard Prime Directive story limitation, but there are enough key differences in the plot to show that it doesn't apply. For one, the Astrology people know aliens exist. They saw them walking around the hospital asking why they were performing so many C-sections. By Union standards, they are a mature civilization. The second problem also ties into the psychology of the First Prefect, who adamantly refuses to negotiate on any terms. Since the Union decided not to use force, they have no stick and apparently, the First Prefect doesn't seem to want anything from the Union since the Orville floats in orbit for a month before getting relieved. No carrot, no stick, but the Union expects the release of its officers from dialogue?
First Contact worked because the Chancellor had to weigh the ramifications of revealing that aliens exist as well as keeping the aliens from overreacting and deciding that military force is their only recourse. Even if Picard was willing to let Riker die, would he want them to have Riker's body to autopsy and his possessions which include a phaser? In the Astrology episode, that nuance is missing, so the limiting principle makes the Union dumb and it consistently shows that its officers are expendable in these kinds of situations.
So, the basic premise is this 20th century civilization hates people born under the astrological sign of Gilliac and arrests them for superstitious reasons. The conflict is that said civilization arrest Union officers at a State banquet celebrating meeting the Orville crew. To compare and contrast, in First Contact, the Malconians at large don't know aliens exist; that's why Riker is such a medical curiosity. In the Gilliac episode, their First Prefect formally opens relations to the Union at a very public State dinner, so the First Prefect can't cover up the existence of aliens.
Second, the First Prefect himself is about as smart as Krola, the conservative guy that tried to get himself shot by Riker's unconscious hand. Making the leader himself as this one-dimensional superstitious fool is a serious downgrade from the Chancellor who has to act like a wise statesman as he carefully weighs the options. From the First Prefect's perspective, he might have started a war with space-faring aliens over his religion. Why? Not just because public opinion requires him to act that way, but because he personally believes Gilliacs must be arrested. He just happens to be lucky the Union adamantly refuse to use force.
Which brings me to the Union's response. The admiral tells Captain Mercer that force is not allowed and that a diplomatic envoy will be dispatched to negotiate the release of his officers. It seems like a standard Prime Directive story limitation, but there are enough key differences in the plot to show that it doesn't apply. For one, the Astrology people know aliens exist. They saw them walking around the hospital asking why they were performing so many C-sections. By Union standards, they are a mature civilization. The second problem also ties into the psychology of the First Prefect, who adamantly refuses to negotiate on any terms. Since the Union decided not to use force, they have no stick and apparently, the First Prefect doesn't seem to want anything from the Union since the Orville floats in orbit for a month before getting relieved. No carrot, no stick, but the Union expects the release of its officers from dialogue?
First Contact worked because the Chancellor had to weigh the ramifications of revealing that aliens exist as well as keeping the aliens from overreacting and deciding that military force is their only recourse. Even if Picard was willing to let Riker die, would he want them to have Riker's body to autopsy and his possessions which include a phaser? In the Astrology episode, that nuance is missing, so the limiting principle makes the Union dumb and it consistently shows that its officers are expendable in these kinds of situations.
Thinking about the "everybody wants Kira" thing, did Star Trek ever actually have any popular canon couples? Rewatching some TOS and the flings of the week make for more compelling love stories than any of the ongoing romantic subplots in later series.
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Worf and Dax. Was way better than Worf and Troi.
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O'Brian and the she devil. When I think of couples that's the only one that seems organic rather than "who can we get together that would draw more interest?"
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The war with Cardassia truly did a number on O'Brien's psyche.
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She was never a crew member, but I thought the relationship between Sisko and Kasidy Yates was pretty organically written.
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That's because TOS hired hotties for the flings of the week and William Shatner had chemistry with all of them.
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As random as 7 of 9 getting together chakotay was, I approved of it. Another one of my reasons to hate the Picard show.
Surprised nobody has mentioned Riker and Troi.
Surprised nobody has mentioned Riker and Troi.
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Because no one gives a shit about Riker and Troi.
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I admire Scotty and his love of the original Enterprise.
He found his purpose and place in Life and was grateful for it.
He found his purpose and place in Life and was grateful for it.
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I was fuckin destroyed when he recreated the original enterprise and sat down, the man just wants to be in his ship
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Picard and Beverly, even though they finally accepted their friendship was more important than any other feeling. The love JL still felt for her was very sweet and sad.