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ditto said:
Star Trek never does those types of characters very well.
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I just re-watched the DS9 episode where Kira is jumping Shakaar's bones in front of Odo. Man, her character was more of a whore than I remember.

I understand that was deliberately hard to watch, but...that was hard to watch. I'm surprised Odo didn't go full-on incel after that shit.
 
Dr. Sexbot said:
I just re-watched the DS9 episode where Kira is jumping Shakaar's bones in front of Odo. Man, her character was more of a whore than I remember.
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Odo's love quest is even worst than the Ferengi. Armin Shimmerman is always entertaining but DS9 soap opera episode are a total bore.
AnOminous said:
There's one very obvious exception and that's Captain Kirk.
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Kirk's first and only love was the Enterprise. William Shatner on the other hand..
Early Riker wasn't too bad either, because they left it in the background.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
You know what I do when I go see a movie? I want to see a movie not read all the stuff that wasn't in the movie that they put in comics and stuff.
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Same with games. Halo since 343 has put important plot points in comics, books, and web-shows. Good luck understanding who the Didact is or how Cortana was able to come back but evil without those.


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ToroidalBoat said:
Of all the ST films, I think the opening to III ("Search For Spock") is the best opening.
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Stealing the Enterprise might be the best sequence in any star trek movie. I never got why people hated Star Trek III.
 
AnOminous said:
There's one very obvious exception and that's Captain Kirk.
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But even then there was an oil slick. I think of that one episode with Kim Darby—twenty-one, playing fourteen—and there was no way to see it as anything but a grown-ass man essentially grooming a girl on television. (Kim was a whole meal, tho.)

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As for sex appeal, maybe only Avery could match Bill, though he didn't chase many women beyond Kassidy.
 
BIG BILL HELL'S said:
Because it's a mediocre movie sandwiched between two good-to-great movies, and back then people didn't realize just how bad Star Trek could be.
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It's a little bit better than mediocre, but basically this.

Also, if I had a nickel for every time there was a mid 80's movie where a vehicle originally belonging to Christopher Lloyd went back in time and had to find a way to get back to the future, I would have 2 nickels. That doesn't sound like a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
 
Captain Syrup said:
But even then there was an oil slick. I think of that one episode with Kim Darby—twenty-one, playing fourteen—and there was no way to see it as anything but a grown-ass man essentially grooming a girl on television. (Kim was a whole meal, tho.)

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As for sex appeal, maybe only Avery could match Bill, though he didn't chase many women beyond Kassidy.
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The episode showed that he was turning on the charm to try to get her to show him the other Onlies, he wasn't going to do shit to her.

BIG BILL HELL'S said:
Because it's a mediocre movie sandwiched between two good-to-great movies, and back then people didn't realize just how bad Star Trek could be.
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Au contaire, we already had The Motion Picture and season 3 of TOS.
 
UnKillShredDur said:
It's a little bit better than mediocre, but basically this.

Also, if I had a nickel for every time there was a mid 80's movie where a vehicle originally belonging to Christopher Lloyd went back in time and had to find a way to get back to the future, I would have 2 nickels. That doesn't sound like a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
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I’m watching clips of interviews with Lloyd and he loved playing bad guys... Doom, Kruge, Switchblade Sam, he just ate it up. Talked about terrifying kids on the set and stuff.
 
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UnKillShredDur said:
It's a little bit better than mediocre, but basically this.

Also, if I had a nickel for every time there was a mid 80's movie where a vehicle originally belonging to Christopher Lloyd went back in time and had to find a way to get back to the future, I would have 2 nickels. That doesn't sound like a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
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I feel like there should have been a Taxi where Rev Jim gets confused and thinks he's traveled through time
 
Miller said:
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"It don't matter when it's Arcturian!"
Dr. Sexbot said:
I just re-watched the DS9 episode where Kira is jumping Shakaar's bones in front of Odo. Man, her character was more of a whore than I remember.

I understand that was deliberately hard to watch, but...that was hard to watch. I'm surprised Odo didn't go full-on incel after that shit.
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The only romances in Star Trek that weren't somewhere between boring and cringe-inducing were Paris/Torres and Sisko/Yates. For whatever reason, across multiple series, dozens of seasons and hundreds of episodes, Star Trek has just had a terrible track record at trying to do sex and romance. Both in terms of long-term relationships and love side-quests.
 
BIG BILL HELL'S said:
Because it's a mediocre movie sandwiched between two good-to-great movies, and back then people didn't realize just how bad Star Trek could be.
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While the ending of II was one of the best scenes in Trek it basically required a derail of a whole movie just to get Spock back because you couldn't really do Trek without him. I'd still say it was pretty good even though the whole underlying premise was batshit.
 
BIG BILL HELL'S said:
Because it's a mediocre movie sandwiched between two good-to-great movies, and back then people didn't realize just how bad Star Trek could be.
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Because the movie is forgettable and the entire point of it was to un-fuck Star trek, after they realized nobody gonna be interested in it, when Spock isn't there. (late and gay, sorry)
I like the 2nd Saavik actress tho, I don't even mind she had replaced a completely different one in the same role. And finally she has proper eyebrows.
 
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2mm and 99 others said:
Because the movie is forgettable and the entire point of it was to un-fuck Star trek, after they realized nobody gonna be interested in it, when Spock isn't there. (late and gay, sorry)
I like the 2nd Saavik actress tho, I don't even mind she had replaced a completely different one in the same role. And finally she has proper eyebrows.
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I'm a little hung up on the continuity of makeup (the ease with which they discard it when it suits them, in the name of making the actor look attractive).

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If there had been some established rule that female Vulcans had human eyebrows I could let it slide but no, this is Kirstie sidestepping the chair.
 
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2mm and 99 others said:
I like the 2nd Saavik actress tho, I don't even mind she had replaced a completely different one in the same role. And finally she has proper eyebrows.
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Tbh I preferred Kirstie Alley, yes I know she's a total flake and a nutjob but she nailed it in II.
 
Dr. Sexbot said:
I just re-watched the DS9 episode where Kira is jumping Shakaar's bones in front of Odo. Man, her character was more of a whore than I remember.

I understand that was deliberately hard to watch, but...that was hard to watch. I'm surprised Odo didn't go full-on incel after that shit.
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Gotta be fair, nobody thought Odo was looking to bone because he was a puddle of liquid and on many occasions explicitly harrumphed at the concept.
Also, it's funny that Odo actually does bone a random chick in that one episode, but when he finally gets the chance to bone Kira, he hits her with the cum cloud maneuver. What did they mean by this?
 
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