Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Standardized Profile said:
I thought the most loved TOS episode dealt with Starfleet disappearing because an annoying liberal didn't get hit by a car in the 1930s?

But people mostly like it because mechanical rice-picker and the personal cost Kirk pays to restore the timeline.
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City is what casuals say is their fave because they don't have any personal taste to go with Taste Of Armageddon and Kirk's "Hi, my name is James, and I'm a kill-aholic" speech, Devil in the Dark for being just really great at everything, or something else.
like when somebody says Trouble With Tribbles is their fave
City On The Edge Of Forever is basically a meme because Jerkguy tried to shove junkies into TOS and got shot down so it's some super great shits.
It's not even the best Trek with the Guardian, Yesteryear was way better
 
AnOminous said:
I never really thought why I hated Friends so much but that's pretty much it.
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I barely watched "Friends" growing up. I remember that my parents liked it (they liked it so much that they had the soundtrack on cd. That was actually a pretty good soundtrack iirc.)

Anyway, I've actually re-watched a few episodes of 'Friends' recently... and, I really didn't think it was *that* bad.
I'll admit, I don't particularly feel the need to see any more episodes, but 'Friends' is still infinitely better than what passes for a sitcom in the "current day," decades later. (Bazinga!)

Semi-related, "Frasier" still totally holds up when it comes to 90's sitcoms. I would consider fighting anybody who disagreed, but you couldn't hit me anyway because I'm a sp..sp...spooky ghost. XD
 
Flexo said:
This is what's starting to anger me. Say what you will, but the original core 5 Trek series? At least they kind of invite participating discussion! (as this board has demonstrated several times) I mean sure Neelix may be a shithead - but we can at least have talks about him! But shows nowadays just don't go any deeper than "shiny lights! big explosions! tears!"
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The worst thing is that Discovery has actually somehow managed to go backwards in that regard. At least with the first season you could debate things like the ethics of the tactics the main characters were using in the war against the Klingons. What exactly was the last season supposed to be about, other than a dozen or so episodes of meandering about, message episodes, and the occasional space battle against Lois Lane's niece before we found out that the Federation was destroyed because some alien kid was upset about his mommy dying?
 
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Exceptionally Exceptional said:
Anyone ever get the impression that Sarek was less Vulcan than he let on? Dude actually seemed to have a sense of humor once or twice. Most specifically I remember what he said when he was asked why he married his wife. "It seemed the logical thing to do at the time."

And also remembering a scene from one of the books where Kirk, Sarek, and someone else were playing poker in sickbay using McCoy's tongue depressors as chips. Sarek won a hand and says "I believe the appropriate cultural euphemism would be; Come to papa!" as he collected his chips.

He had to know how absolutely humorous both of those statements were and I will never not believe that.
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They do have a sense of humor, just like they have the rest of emotions we have, they just don't show it.

Besides, logic can be sometimes ridiculous, so I doubt they don't appreciate the irony of it.

Great President of McHell said:
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Another galaxy destroying threat? oh no how will our brave and clever heros get through this one, explain to me with more forced one-liners please.
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WITH THE POWER OF SCIENCE™
 
HarryHowler said:
the occasional space battle against Lois Lane's niece
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Why they made the Orions the centerpiece, considering "Bound" is one of the top 3 worst episodes of ENT....

It's Star Trek's stubborn refusal to abandon a bad idea.
Tasty Tatty said:
They do have a sense of humor, just like they have the rest of emotions we have, they just don't show it.
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Only the white hats. Nimoy, Lenard, Alley.

Jolene doean't count. She was mildly antagonistic for two seasons.
 
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JamesFargo said:
I saw an interesting piece by a blogger in the UK.
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I thought something similar. Ferengi episodes in DS9 reminded me of British sitcoms like Fawlty Towers: where a very flawed character is put in a hectic situation and has to find a solution. Yet not everything is played as 100% comedy - there is some degree of depth and even a small dose of tragedy to the main character. I like this a lot.
 
horni said:
I thought something similar. Ferengi episodes in DS9 reminded me of British sitcoms like Fawlty Towers: where a very flawed character is put in a hectic situation and has to find a solution.
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Ferengi don't click with the other plotlines.

A lot of people will skip anything with Lwaxana Troi. Which is fair enough, as she is easily identifiable as the "zany" character, which doesn't integrate well with the recurring cast members.
 
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Sweet and Savoury said:
Hollywood thinks everyone loved the twisted, convoluted, world changing plot and that the characters are just a means to that end.
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Which is insanely ironic, since GoT got it all wrong in the end by having the big bad evil guy and his army of the walking dead get unceremoniously dick-punched into oblivion by a shrieking Quasimodo doing Wire-Fu that would even make Ang Lee blush.

Still the "world-ending threat" thing made its rounds... maybe also based on Marvel shlock?
In a show like Star Trek it's just tiresome at some point. It might be interesting for a season, but when it's a new "world-ending threat" every season that gets stopped by a teary-eyed corn-row wearing brown woman and a ham-planet yelling about I LOVE SCIENCE... yeah, fuck that noise.

Shows don't need high stakes to be entertaining. Hell, a good show can be entertaining and engaging even when nothing is at stake. A lot of idiots in Hollywood mistake high stakes for high drama and good writing, but it's just dangling keys in front of barely sentient manchildren, who also seal-clap at any explosion and any 4th-wall breaking smarmy comment.

I hate modern entertainment.

Miller said:
I wonder how the future generations will juge our societies, seeing that we validated mentally ill people instead of helping them get fixed.
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My personal assumption is that a lot of the shit that's going on now will be seen just like lobotomies are seen now. Though with lobotomies, they happened behind closed curtains and weren't openly celebrated like dicksnipping or made-up-pronouns are nowadays. All in all, the verdict of future generations will be devastating.
 
JamesFargo said:
What saves them are Armin Shimerman.

Ferengi don't click with the other plotlines. That is why they are reviled. A lot of people will skip anything with Lwaxana Troi. Which is fair enough, as she is easily identifiable as the "zany" character, which doesn't integrate well with the recurring cast members.
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I'm going to have to defend Lwaxana she does the job she's supposed to do; put our otherwise stoic cast on the backfoot. Watching them squirm because she out-ranks them is a change of pace. She isn't shy about waving her ceremonial dick in everyone's face. Picard is used to moralizing? Now he's got to carry her luggage. Troi has a sane, orderly life? Lwaxana asks her why she isn't married yet. And as she tells Odo, her ostentatious personality is a front that covers up her depressing life like with Timicin or her dead baby. She actually has more depth than half of the cast members.
 
JamesFargo said:
Why they made the Orions the centerpiece, considering "Bound" is one of the top 3 worst episodes of ENT.... It's Star Trek's stubborn refusal to abandon a bad idea.
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I'm guessing the reason producers keep re-using them is partly because they don't require complicated prosthetics - you can just paint a bunch of people green and be done with it - and partly because their cultural hat is being slavers, which makes it handy for occasions when you want to just have an unequivocal villain who doesn't require any set-up or moral complexity.

They worked kinda okay for being side villains in the Augments trilogy, but "Bound" was a failure most epic.
 
Miller said:
I wonder how the future generations will juge our societies, seeing that we validated mentally ill people instead of helping them get fixed.
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I thought we were getting them fixed... So at least they can't reproduce.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
Shows don't need high stakes to be entertaining. Hell, a good show can be entertaining and engaging even when nothing is at stake. A lot of idiots in Hollywood mistake high stakes for high drama and good writing, but it's just dangling keys in front of barely sentient manchildren, who also seal-clap at any explosion and any 4th-wall breaking smarmy comment.

I hate modern entertainment.
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Not just Hollywood. Check out the comments to something like this.

At time of writing, maybe they are trolls, maybe not, but there are some faggots in the comments trying to claim that the Star Wars prequels (or even sequels) were better than ESB.
 
- incoherent shrieks of absolute horrror -
KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT!!!

also....the fuck ugly midget alien is apparently a tellarite

....called Jenkem Pot

ok between this, nightmare phantasm janeway, and the fact that the outragous okana is somehow gonna feature in this shit, i have to assume paramount is actively fucking with us out of spite
 
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Spud Stacker said:
- incoherent shrieks of absolute horrror -
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Lp2MfWFF2WkKILL IT KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT!!!

also....the fuck ugly midget alien is apparently a tellarite

....called Jenkem Pot

ok between this, nightmare phantasm janeway, and the fact that the outragous okana is somehow gonna feature in this shit, i have to assume paramount is actively fucking with us out of spite
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If not us, SFDebris personally.
 
Art Kassul said:
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They've now sunk down to Babylon 5 levels of digital effects prowess.

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STD truly is a mirror to our society. Western society's repugnant and fatal illnesses are the true stars of the series.
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Won’t the anamoly be
be the redhead chick’s fupa becoming an all sucking Diabetes powered rift in space consuming all the cheeseburgers in the alpha quadrant? Joe Bishop must be pissed
 
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