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Deanna only ever did 2 things well.
1. State the fucking obvious.
2. Crash the Enterprise D.
 
Troi's very presence on the Enterprise was a case where it was obvious that Roddenberry was just scribbling down whatever took his fancy without giving any thought to how any of it would actually work. We're told that 24th century humanity accepts death and tragedy, no questions asked, doesn't suffer from vice or prejudice, and wouldn't stoop to the kind of morally questionable missions where the personnel involved would need to talk to anyone after the fact about whether or not they did the right thing.

So... what exactly is Troi supposed to be counselling people for?
 
HarryHowler said:
Troi's very presence on the Enterprise was a case where it was obvious that Roddenberry was just scribbling down whatever took his fancy without giving any thought to how any of it would actually work. We're told that 24th century humanity accepts death and tragedy, no questions asked, doesn't suffer from vice or prejudice, and wouldn't stoop to the kind of morally questionable missions where the personnel involved would need to talk to anyone after the fact about whether or not they did the right thing.

So... what exactly is Troi supposed to be counselling people for?
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Probably because of all the horrifying shit you might encounter in space. I mean, in Trek we've seen planet destroying drone ships, the Borg, creepy Frankenstein monster people who steal your organs, all sorts of shit that might traumatize the fuck out of most people.
 
Lwaxanna only wanted people to have fun and enjoy life, which is very doable for the time they live in. She took her job seriously but still had fun with it. Some members of the Enterprise D did that too (putting aside moments when the situation is dangerous, ofc): Geordi, Riker, Beverly, even Data. Worf was often under a certain stress he caused himself by taking himself too seriously (although he kinda softened in later seasons). Picard too, that's basically all Q tried to tell him every time: "you did good, you are doing fine, now calm the fuck down."
 
Sorry for the double post:
UnKillShredDur said:
2. Crash the Enterprise D.
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She crashed twice the Enterprise. There is definitely a special set of skills to be known as someone who twice crashed your ship.

HarryHowler said:
Troi's very presence on the Enterprise was a case where it was obvious that Roddenberry was just scribbling down whatever took his fancy without giving any thought to how any of it would actually work. We're told that 24th century humanity accepts death and tragedy, no questions asked, doesn't suffer from vice or prejudice, and wouldn't stoop to the kind of morally questionable missions where the personnel involved would need to talk to anyone after the fact about whether or not they did the right thing.

So... what exactly is Troi supposed to be counselling people for?
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I've previously mentioned that her job is to keep about 1000 people living in isolation sane. No matter how much we've got rid of mental illnesses and other things, humans are still humans and we have a lot of evidence that we still have the same attitudes towards tragedy and similar events. You'd think a woman who just lost her husband and finds herself "fine" would realise she's in denial despite even powerless Troi could figure out that, but then she didn't. We have found better ways to deal with these issues, but we haven't completely got rid of human behavior.

And then you have the civilians and children who might not yet be ready to understand why their parents have to constantly move from one ship to the other or why they must let go their friends perhaps for years.

To me, Troi is fine for a ship like the Enterprise, where their mission is simply to explore and do a lot of research and politics while having your family right there. If they weren't the protagonists of the show, life would be quieter for most of them. She has no place in a war ship, though (as Yesterday's Enterprise showed.)
 
Anime Goddess said:
Did the, the producers, asked her to maintain that weight to virtue signal about body posivity?

That's the only reasonable explanation for her not to take care of her weight.

If not, she is comittimg carrer suicide. Not to mention she's being incredibly dumb. As bad as Discovery is she should be using it to promote herself by looking her best to get better roles. It's possible. Pike's actor even got his own spin off despite being a straight white male that they hate so much.

And if she thinks that's bigotted, that wouid be like complaining being a cop is dangerous. Looking your best in Hollywood IS part of the job.
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When I was in drama school we were told outright that any "weird" or otherwise abnormal parts of our appearance would sabotage our careers and force us into typecasting. And our directors made this known by bullying anyone odd harshly in such a way they'd get cancelled nowadays. Any actor who just decides to be fat is in full awareness of how much they are fucking themselves over. They just don't care.
 
St.Davis said:
Additionally: Gul Dukat did NOTHING WRONG. Nothing bad happened during the occupation, and if it did the B*jorans deserved it.
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If Bajorans are so oppressed then how could there be war crimes without a war.

Checkmate, Bajorans.


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Tasty Tatty said:
her job is to keep about 1000 people living in isolation sane.
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How is living on the Enterprise-D isolation?

They stay in quarters that are more luxurious than the presidential suite at a fancy hotel
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They're allowed to have wives and kids in tow, presumably getting excellent education and health benefits, for free
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You can get a pretty sweet haircut
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Hang out with your friends
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Or go on holographic adventures tailored to your wildest dreams... with sexy results :tomgirl:
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And for the non-autistic crew members, let's not forget shore leave... on the galaxy's most exclusive sex planet :wow:
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Join Starfleet, and fuck the stars!
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This message brought to you by Commander Will Riker
 
Anime Goddess said:
Did the, the producers, asked her to maintain that weight to virtue signal about body posivity?

That's the only reasonable explanation for her not to take care of her weight.

If not, she is comittimg carrer suicide. Not to mention she's being incredibly dumb. As bad as Discovery is she should be using it to promote herself by looking her best to get better roles. It's possible. Pike's actor even got his own spin off despite being a straight white male that they hate so much.
Looking your best in Hollywood IS part of the job.
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When the show premiered I was shocked that they didn't drag her to a dermatologist to sort her shit out. She had really bad skin texture and cystic acne that stood out for a mile on HD TV. I assume Hollywood is as shitlordy as ever, so I can't figure out why they haven't suggested/commanded her to fix her skin and weight. Did she sign an iron clad multi season contract or something?
UnKillShredDur said:
Deanna only ever did 2 things well.
1. State the fucking obvious.
2. Crash the Enterprise D.
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3. Fuck Worf (I assume. He seemed happy.)
 
Free the Pedos said:
When the show premiered I was shocked that they didn't drag her to a dermatologist to sort her shit out.
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As Quark points out in that episode, her people leave flakes of skin everyhere.

The Skeeran are one of the more 'undesirable' races. It reminded me of how on Babylon 5, out of all of the League races, the Pak'ma'ra are the ones who most often get the short end of the stick because they're squatters, they seem to do lot of acid and never shower. They have no lobby to represent them.
 
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