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Enterprise A didn't blow up, that was the refit original.
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Oh, yeah. I always think of them as one ship because the refit and the A look identical.

Okay, so that isn't as dumb as my first reaction thought. But the Episode just had too much dumb shit. Like Geordi mentions the ships being networked. Shaw is an engineer first, captain second. Why didn't he know about that.
 
Realistically, this is the best anyone could have hoped for. It works because it's heavy on the Member Berries, and Member Berries is better than whatever the fuck the first two seasons were. The original characters aren't treated like retards. While some of them have evolved or had personal growth, they generally act how one would expect them to act, (except Geordi for some weird reason).

It's not great. It's not horrible. It's OK. A Solid B-.
 
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khaine said:
Oh, yeah. I always think of them as one ship because the refit and the A look identical.

Okay, so that isn't as dumb as my first reaction thought. But the Episode just had too much dumb shit. Like Geordi mentions the ships being networked. Shaw is an engineer first, captain second. Why didn't he know about that.
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They networked the ships to increase the speed of space bitcoin mining I guess.
Jordi La Fridge was totally out of place and didn't behave as his character should, that and he's working at a fucking museum all by himself or something? Wouldn't a starbase that big need a large team of people to keep it up and running?
Troi looks like an extra from the Witcher...damn she's rough.

I'll go out an say it though, although Hunny Bunny is channeling Khan's performance, she's probably the best acted character in this series so far. She look's like she's having fun too.
 
They are being tracked by wifi? Like Geordi couldn't disable any beacon or whatever. (Hint. Go to the settings menu.) If our heroes stole the Bounty that point would even be moot--but we can't have too many extras, sets, etc. Didn't you hear of corona? Really, the whole season has been like one bottle show. At least we get a single block on Matalas Prime and a few nondescript Daystrom hallways.

As far as Amanda Plummer, good on her. Chew that scenery for all it's worth. Maybe her bonkers performance inspired Sir Pat to wake from his slumber, even if only a percentage of the time.
 
The more I read these posts the happier I am I haven't watched this crap at all. Picard is a robot now? Lmao
 
I m really wondering how they will do Kirk if they legit bring him back. He's gonna get wacked of course but it would be cool if they made him go out like a boss. That would be a fun memberberry, especially if they leave a little Suger for the shatner books.
 
Okay, I guess I'm gonna have to update on the new season. I've watched the rest of the series it and it was bad. I will stand by my point that it's better than the last two seasons, but it's still garbage. It may be light on the member berries shit compared to the last two seasons, but it still reeks of it. And the fact that Robot Picard really made me pissed is saying a lot as to how bad this season, and especially the entire show, is.

tl;dr still fuck you Paramount
 
Never Scored said:
Realistically, this is the best anyone could have hoped for. It works because it's heavy on the Member Berries, and Member Berries is better than whatever the fuck the first two seasons were. The original characters aren't treated like retards. While some of them have evolved or had personal growth, they generally act how one would expect them to act, (except Geordi for some weird reason).
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Its basically a TNG movie as a series right now. I'm watching it because people have said its good (which is a fucking low bar) and its just....ugh. I'm pretending the Picard bot shit didn't happen because who the fuck would go, "Sure, turn me into a robot, but keep me as a 90 year old man with all the same health problems".

Also, I get that actors age and shit, but in a future where you can cure radiation sickness you can't cure aging? Really? Riker is honestly the best part of the show so far, since it looks like Jonathan Frakes is loving being back in Riker's shoes. He really makes me feel nostalgic, even if the first couple of episodes are basically 'Wrath of Khan' (Nebula, Outgunned, etc.).

The largest problem to post-TNG era, unlike post-TOS era, is that Patrick Stewart fucking hates Picard. HATES. It doesn't matter that its made him wealthy, beloved or iconic. He does not like the character, does not like the genre. Its a big reason why a lot of post-TNG movies are shit. Nemesis was clearly going to be a part one of two and copy 'The Search for Spock' with Data, but it preformed poorly and Stewart didn't care enough about the character and was happy to be done with it.

The problem with adaptions nowadays or 'sequels' or 'soft reboots' (Picard is a TNG reboot in a new universe, because JFC it is trash) is that its like "WE HAVE GOT TO DO OUR OWN THING" and then when they do it, lose the old audience completely, don't attract a new audience, and their new canon has burned the franchise to the ground, they panic and run right back to the source just to copy and paste it. "SEE WE LOVE IT TOO." It goes far beyond homage, because the entire plot structure is just copied. See 'Star Wars'.

Because they miss the essence of what the problem was in the first place: You cannot stray far from the tone or message of the original, or it is no longer a part of the thing you are trying to continue. It may as well be something new. The only reason it works is because the old stuff is so good that a little bit rubs off on the new product. Its incidental.
 
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CaptainAutism69 said:
OMG it's the Enterprise A!, OMG Genesis device II, ZOMG Kirks body! Look at the Defiant and Voyager! DO YOU REMEMBER THAT! Look pop goes the weasel! ENCOUNTER AT FARPOINT!!!! Georgi La Fridge!, Deana! DATA!!!!11111 Do you remember all this stuff do you do you? LOOK! Bird of Prey from the movie about the whales! DO YOU REMEMBER? DO YOU?! TRIBBLES!
What a load of shit after last week.

Oh the top secret thing stolen from Daystrom is Picard's body
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Shut the fuck up. You are the most miserable person I've seen. Its the last hurrah of the TNG cast. I think a bit of indulgence of fanservice is deserved
 
This Is Hard To Do said:
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Shut the fuck up. You are the most miserable person I've seen. Its the last hurrah of the TNG cast. I think a bit of indulgence of fanservice is deserved
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Some fan service is okay, but the last episode is just jam packed with it, to an excessive and stupid amount. Seeing the old ships was fine, but really should have ended in them in switching ships so they can't be tracked.

Picard season 3 is like mainlining memberberries from a filthy syringe covered in all the shit from the previous Picard seasons.
 
khaine said:
Some fan service is okay, but the last episode is just jam packed with it, to an excessive and stupid amount. Seeing the old ships was fine, but really should have ended in them in switching ships so they can't be tracked.

Picard season 3 is like mainlining memberberries from a filthy syringe covered in all the shit from the previous Picard seasons.
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Member berries feels like the best and worst thing South Park ever did cause it got co opted by the usual gang of "let's shit on something people like" crowd (see also RLM and "Don't ask questions......")
 
This Is Hard To Do said:
Member berries feels like the best and worst thing South Park ever did cause it got co opted by the usual gang of "let's shit on something people like" crowd (see also RLM and "Don't ask questions......")
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I agree. There is a difference between sharing a common world (i.e. A star war movie set when the Empire was in charge, you would expect to see evidence of that like storm troopers or tie fighters), having subtle nods to the audience (like the music cues in Picard S3), and replacing the plot with 'remember this from a better movie' (i.e. Star Trek Into Darkness's use of Khan).

While I thought the last episode was bad because it relied too much on the member berries, it is still leagues ahead of S1 and S2.
 
This Is Hard To Do said:
Member berries feels like the best and worst thing South Park ever did cause it got co opted by the usual gang of "let's shit on something people like" crowd (see also RLM and "Don't ask questions......")
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Huh, so Invisible Crane actually made a legit good post that I agree with? What in the actual holy fuck is this bizarro world we live in?

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Have no fears they'll have stories for years!
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Or how Data gets a new cell phone.
 
khaine said:
Some fan service is okay, but the last episode is just jam packed with it, to an excessive and stupid amount. Seeing the old ships was fine, but really should have ended in them in switching ships so they can't be tracked.

Picard season 3 is like mainlining memberberries from a filthy syringe covered in all the shit from the previous Picard seasons.
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Ya the memberberries were a bit too sweet even for me in this episode. I will say this Jack Crusher has the best taste in starship design, 'cause Connie refit is the best refit and the best starship design. Change my mind.
 
It's just kind of gross the writers have the portal weapon that's so important, but it's jettisoned from the baddy ship at a most convenient time to be jettisoned from the plot.

Then we move on to the Daystrom shit. The Daystrom shit is indeed shit, Data returning the most contrived thing ever, capped by no one saying "oh my gawd it's my old friend Data" they just want to continue the plot--"what was stolen, Mr Manifest?"

Transparently there are segmented/extended stories in the guise of a single-story season. The budget is way too low for what is occuring, it should have been like half the length so far. The sets are small, there's hardly any extras, and the sfx are too prominent (which suggests budgets going in the wrong direction.) Then things like the fleet museum are halfbaked while the Daystrom Vault has way too many memberberries.

Five episodes on the Wrath of Khan remake was too much. Jack Crusher's special shit better be really important and make sense since it's playing so slow. If it doesn't end up working then Picard season 3 is going on the [sadly] proverbial bonfire.
 
Travoltron said:
They fagged-up Transformers as well. Groomer shit shipping big robots with little ones.
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(meanwhile, in the based East Aryan homeworld...)

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khaine said:
Well its taken six episodes, but its finally shit the bed. Too many member berries that don't make a lick of sense. Enterprise A blew up. They only made one genesis device, isn't daystrom a research institute, that did computers and engine design?
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No, the original blew up. The A continued on with a new crew after Kirk and company were decommissioned at the end of "Undiscovered Country". As for that Genesis device, we don't know for a fact that no one ever made another device. Carol Marcus was certainly still around after "Wrath of Khan" and it's plausible that she would have wanted the work to continue.

Why is Kirk's body at Daystrom? To provide yet another unnecesary easter egg, and foreshadowing so that the more eagle-eyed viewers might clue in that the maguffin would end up being Picard's corpse.

Can't quote @Mayhem for some reason but I tend to agree, the crew are mercenaries or a new servitor race of these rogue Changelings, similar to what the Vorta and Jem'Hadar used to be for the Founders.

And as several have so correctly pointed out, the nostalgia has been turned up to 11 all season. I mean a bit of it is ok, but it's just so far over the top that it's like a big middle finger at this point.
 
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