Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Burt Ryan said:
One thing I do enjoy about Star Trek in general, for the most part still holds true to this day, is their production relying on physical sets and practical effects. They're not yet covering everything in green screen and what not, for the most part.

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The VFX team on Stargate Universe did the same thing for a sequence that involved the Destiny's shuttle crashing on the surface a planet.

WonderWino said:
ca.news.yahoo.com

Paramount+ Greenlights ‘Star Trek: Section 31’ Film Starring Michelle Yeoh

Paramount+ is officially moving forward on a “Star Trek: Section 31” project starring Michelle Yeoh, but it will now be an event film instead of a series, Variety has learned. It was first reported that a Section 31 series with Yeoh was in development back in 2019. In the film, Yeoh will reprise...
ca.news.yahoo.com ca.news.yahoo.com

So section 31 got the official greenlight.....but as a film rather than a full series
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Kurtzman finally got what he wanted all along. Paramount probably greenlit the project after Yeoh got an Oscar and then settled for a movie because it's cheaper.

CaptainAutism69 said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UV4nFIaZbPU
So we get some pretty CGI Ent D vs Borg.
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Actual phasers instead of pew pew Star Wars sound effects?!
 
Crossposting from that thread.

Here's how I rank the classic Trek movies from best to worst:

1. IV
2. VI
3. III
4. II
5. The Motion Picture
6. V
 
TVBForever said:
In terms of original Star Trek movies, I'd rank it as follows:

1. IV
2. VI
3. III
4. II
5. The Motion Picture
6. V

Only the fifth movie is godawful, even though I would be missed if I didn't enjoy Shatner's cheerfully hammy acting that made me entertained through and through. Motion Picture gets a bum rep and I can understand why, but I enjoyed it as is, despite being just an extended, yet typical Star Trek episode. For me, IV and VI are tied together as the best, while III is criminally underrated and II is great.
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Khan should be 3 and Search should be 4. 2, 3, and 4 are best watched as a trilogy.

Agreed on TMP. It's a perfectly fine movie but the 4 in front of it are just more enjoyable and warmer.
 
Any list that doesn't have Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World is deficient.

The fact that it wasn't made by Paramount and they don't actually go to the stars is irrelevant. It's very nearly the perfect Star Trek movie.
 
Standardized Profile said:
Any list that doesn't have Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World is deficient.

The fact that it wasn't made by Paramount and they don't actually go to the stars is irrelevant. It's very nearly the perfect Star Trek movie.
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Read the books. It's a mishmash of like the first three in the series.
 
feral cat #6385 said:
Why should I give a shit about some show cosplaying as star trek?
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because in this timeline star trek is worse than offbrand star trek (like most brands these days).

feral cat #6385 said:
Might even watch Enterprise.
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never got the hate for it, but then I went in knowing it won't be TNG/VOY/DS9 but star trek before it becomes "star trek". I suspect people simply expected more of the same and then got pissy it wasn't, you can see that quite often in nerd fandoms.

the xindi arc was kinda meh (and dragged on way too long), but overall enterprise was good imo. also one of the best villains-turned-bro with shran, and I will forever mourn we never got more of it - season 5 was supposed to feature the romulan war with shran becoming a regular on the bridge, imagine weekly jeffrey combs kino! also fucking kzinti! and more mirror universe shenanigans (back when it was cool and before STD utterly ruined it not to mention more t'pol midriff).

Nopenopenope said:
It's a shame because it wasn't the best Trek by far but it was one that I could also watch with my wife. She doesn't give a shit about tachyon emissions and positronic dicks etc, so I don't think she would be interested in anything pre Enterprise.
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really depends, the technobabble is just a vehicle, old trek is more talking than action which always worked better on women. pick one of the good episodes she might and enjoy as an entry, no harm in trying really.
 
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ZMOT said:
never got the hate for it, but then I went in knowing it won't be TNG/VOY/DS9 but star trek before it becomes "star trek". I suspect people simply expected more of the same and then got pissy it wasn't, you can see that quite often in nerd fandoms.
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Because it came out on the tail end of a glut of Star Trek and was seen as more of the same. After Voyager Star Trek needed a rest. There was excitement about Bakula being cast but reactions were mixed to it being a prequel. Also, out the gate the first episode featured Klingons. Not a great way to differentiate the series.
 
feral cat #6385 said:
Because it came out on the tail end of a glut of Star Trek and was seen as more of the same. After Voyager Star Trek needed a rest. There was excitement about Bakula being cast but reactions were mixed to it being a prequel. Also, out the gate the first episode featured Klingons. Not a great way to differentiate the series.
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it was fine because that was people expected, and the klingons where the one of the "main" baddies of TOS. really depends how long it drags on after the hook.

the problem is always you have to walk a fine line between the nerds whining for MORE, but if you give them MORE it's either not enough or just more of the same. to make a food analogy, everyone likes eating cake, so you got people crying for more cake, but they can only eat cake for so long before most people are utterly sick of it. a lot of MORE MORE MORE before suddenly EH I DON'T WANNA like a fucking child. add no restraint or moderation to retarded elitist I'M A TREKKIE I DESERVE STAR TREK and you get stuff like that simpsons skit.

TLDR: things have to change but not too much.

Aqua Panda said:
>Geordi, through sheer mechanical autism, completely restores the Enterprise-D to her heyday in his space garage.

I'll allow it. Hell, this is reaching levels of based that should not be possible.
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something that was on my mind and forgot to post till you reminded me of it, imagine you reach so hard into the memberberries chest you go full RLM:


also the MUH D BRIDGE scene was fucking cringe, holy shit. all that was missing was the reality tv music and people crying while the audience claps

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LUL just saw this after posting:
 
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feral cat #6385 said:
Because it came out on the tail end of a glut of Star Trek and was seen as more of the same. After Voyager Star Trek needed a rest. There was excitement about Bakula being cast but reactions were mixed to it being a prequel. Also, out the gate the first episode featured Klingons. Not a great way to differentiate the series.
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I think it was Ron Moore that said that B&B hated TOS and that because they hated it, it was doomed from the start. I'm not too sure, but ENT does feel more like a sequel to First Contact than a prequel to TOS. As goofy as TOS aesthetics get due to not matching up with our real technology, ENT really needed to go into TOS's style. Like having super magnetic tapes that have better storage or not having viewscreen technology at all. Also, they really should have gotten rid of that stun setting the phase pistols have or make it like modern day tasers where they only work some of the time. In the logic of this show, the plasma rifle should be the primary weapon because it's proven to be reliable, but it's not what they use most of the time.
 
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