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Q's "death" was not a bad scene if you ask me. It was a terrible plot but the idea of him ceasing to exist and saying Picard good bye specifically had potential.

Maybe Q is like the Guardian Angel of the Picard family. I need a show with Q trolling all generations of Picards even the mom who hanged herself.
 
I was thinking about the character of Sarek recently and you can't tell me that son of a bitch didn't have a sense of humor. I can remember 2 specific instances of him demonstrating this sense of humor, one canon instance from the show and one maybe not canon instance from a book.

For the former it was when his human wife asked him why he ever married her and Sarek responds "It seemed like the logical thing to do at the time."

The latter instance from the book involved Sarek, Spock, and Kirk in sickbay because Sarek was injured or sick and Kirk and Spock were keeping him company. To pass the time, at Kirk's insistence, they were playing poker using Dr. McCoy's tongue depressors as chips. Sarek ended up winning the pot, and in a complete deadpan says "I believe the appropriate cultural euphemism for this situation is 'Come to papa" which had Kirk laughing his ass off and simply prompted Spock to raise his eyebrow at Sarek.

Sarek is no stranger to humanity. He's been around humans quite a bit due to his role on the Federation Council, and for fucks sake the guy married one! He knew exactly how humorous those statements would be to humans. It's something I wish they'd actively fleshed out a bit more, that Vulcans may develop certain habits around humans or other races to better interact with them.
If a normally pacifistic Vulcan will adapt in such a way that allows them to attack and fuck up every Klingon ship they encounter to assert dominance until the Klingons learn to play nice, they can certainly learn to crack a joke now and then to ease tension and ingratiate themselves to humans.

"Are you smiling? I didn't know Vulcans smiled."
"We do not. However, I've observed that many humans are uncomfortable around Vulcans due to our lack of emotional output. So I've learned to emulate the same emotional indicators that are common to other races to put them at ease."
"Fake it till you make it, I guess."
"Indeed."
 
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Some people could have honestly liked it...

Rich and Mike haven't said it's perfect and its' the Star Trek they remember and love, they said it was ok. considering all the trash we are having, and that they enjoyed it. Dave seems to have actually liked it. Personally, I see it like an attempt to make ST as ST as possible, which isn't at all the same situation we see with Discovery, P1/2, or Lower Decks. With that alone, i can see why they feel it was at least passable.

Just because most media is terrible now, that doesn't mean we need to be reactionary all the time. I mean, Picard was definitely bait for the upcoming crap they're about to throw at us, but Picard 3 on itself, was a nice effort.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
Some people could have honestly liked it...

Rich and Mike haven't said it's perfect and its' the Star Trek they remember and love, they said it was ok. considering all the trash we are having, and that they enjoyed it. Dave seems to have actually liked it. Personally, I see it like an attempt to make ST as ST as possible, which isn't at all the same situation we see with Discovery, P1/2, or Lower Decks. With that alone, i can see why they feel it was at least passable.

Just because most media is terrible now, that doesn't mean we need to be reactionary all the time. I mean, Picard was definitely bait for the upcoming crap they're about to throw at us, but Picard 3 on itself, was a nice effort.
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Except it isn't in the ways that matter.


 
Tasty Tatty said:
Q's "death" was not a bad scene if you ask me. It was a terrible plot but the idea of him ceasing to exist and saying Picard good bye specifically had potential.

Maybe Q is like the Guardian Angel of the Picard family. I need a show with Q trolling all generations of Picards even the mom who hanged herself.
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Q offers to help Picard's dull plodding pedantic speech.

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This generally brings back comfy memories...
 
This really has nothing to do with anything, though the timing was admittedly apt with the Borg/Picard plotline.

Rewatching DS9 and I totally forgot Quark's line here.


I kinda love this, because it functions in a couple of ways. Yes, it's clearly a reference to Picard's speech in First Contact, and is a nice little reference for the fans. But at the same time, it functions completely independently - Quark here really fucking means it. His whole civilization is being changed all around him - the same ideology that has helped him become more successful than his father ever was, is now being taken away.

He's furious and full of passion, and it's great. The line lets you know just how serious this is - as serious as Picard was when he felt humanity was on the brink of destruction.

Anyway, that's enough rambling about a solitary line in DS9.
 
feral cat #6385 said:
Speaking of nu trek. l post this here to torture you all.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ToO22Vwqvr4Normies. Not even once.
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Confession : That Sabotage scene in Beyond is a guilty pleasure of mine. Mostly because I do love that song. I also liked Chris Pine as Kirk, but obviously the writing for those movies could have been a lot better. Regardless, I always thought he was a good casting choice.
 
White Devil said:
Confession : That Sabotage scene in Beyond is a guilty pleasure of mine. Mostly because I do love that song. I also liked Chris Pine as Kirk, but obviously the writing for those movies could have been a lot better. Regardless, I always thought he was a good casting choice.
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Beyond is the only Nu Trek movie I like.
 
feral cat #6385 said:
Beyond is the only Nu Trek movie I like.
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I like/hate the first one. It's... flawed but there wasn't an outright malicious attempt to destroy Trek like what we have now. I refuse to acknowledge Into Darkness exists, it's one of the only movies I have ever walked out of, and yeah Beyond was fun. I'd rather have another 10 Beyonds than STD, LD, STP, and SNW.
 
feral cat #6385 said:
Speaking of nu trek. l post this here to torture you all.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ToO22Vwqvr4Normies. Not even once.
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White Devil said:
I like/hate the first one. It's... flawed but there wasn't an outright malicious attempt to destroy Trek like what we have now. I refuse to acknowledge Into Darkness exists, it's one of the only movies I have ever walked out of, and yeah Beyond was fun. I'd rather have another 10 Beyonds than STD, LD, STP, and SNW.
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Beyond was the only one that felt like Star Trek with the crew of the Enterprise having something to do and it had a halfway original plot. Idris Elba being the main big bad was a plus.

Into Darkness was a complete piece of shit. I hate that movie more than I hate Generations.

I don't remember jack about the 2009 movie and don' feel the need to ever see it again. It blends together with the last Next Generation movie because the plot is vaguely similar. Some big bad asshole Romulan in an overpowered ship going around fucking stuff up. Booooring!
 
feral cat #6385 said:
Beyond was the only one that felt like Star Trek with the crew of the Enterprise having something to do and it had a halfway original plot. Idris Elba being the main big bad was a plus.

Into Darkness was a complete piece of shit. I hate that movie more than I hate Generations.

I don't remember jack about the 2009 movie and don' feel the need to ever see it again. It blends together with the last Next Generation movie because the plot is vaguely similar. Some big bad asshole Romulan in an overpowered ship going around fucking stuff up. Booooring!
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Beyond's flaws are honest failures like having a cliché vampire man, goofy motorcycle action scene, and inheriting the problem of destroying the Enterprise AGAIN, which makes it less special, heartfelt, and makes the ship look weak when it should be an adequate ship that gets overpowered. They're understandable and thus, forgivable.
 
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