Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[Flexo]

"Oh no your civilization just had a catastrophe that only the Federation can solve and the Klingons are having a civil war again. Better go with the Federation." -The Federation

"Hush, Sloane. Everyone can see a Section 31 operation from a mile away you glowie!"

This is where the ENT: Dear Doctor would've been great plot thread to be tied later had the series not been canceled. As Phlox and Archer's decision to let a sentient species die out because Phlox observe only one autistic member of the another sentient species exhibiting signs of limited learning abilities.

That was literally the conclusion of SFDebris' review - that one of the species did get help but had to start wearing suits to survive and became the Breen. (the autistic species became the Pakleds) It's a darkly humorous bit that also explains a lot of other Star Trek bits. (like why do the Breen seem so intent on Earth in DS9)

 

[Ike Aim]

He did Save Earth after stealing a Starship, it's really hard to court martial the guy that just saved The Capital of The Federation.

Not to mention considering Star Trek VI, there would be many at Starfleet Command at that time who would want to provoke the Klingons into doing dumb shit with "the renegade James T. Kirk" still in command of a starship. We then see that play-out in Star Trek V and Star Trek VI. I'm sure the Federation is indeed grateful, but it also likely not just that.

 

[TVB]

Not to mention considering Star Trek VI, there would be many at Starfleet Command at that time who would want to provoke the Klingons into doing dumb shit with "the renegade James T. Kirk" still in command of a starship. We then see that play-out in Star Trek V and Star Trek VI. I'm sure the Federation is indeed grateful, but it also likely not just that.

The thing is, V was implied in a very shitty way while VI explained the whole Starfleet Command and the federation in much better detail. This also explains why the writing in VI is still way better.

 

[Travoltron]

Ferengi are not Federation members. Neither is Bajor or the Klingons.

We had one TNG episode about a "bidding war" with a planet. Sadly most of it was taken up by a stupid Troi love triangle with the guest star of the week. I'd also love to see a story where there's "bidding" over a new species.

There were some TOS episodes like A Private Little War where the Federation and Klingons were fighting over a planet, but it wasn't quite a "bidding war".

 

[Burt Ryan]

Ferengi are not Federation members. Neither is Bajor or the Klingons.

It's always gonna be funny to me how, DS9 starts because Bajor is requesting to enter the Federation, and after 7 years and an inter-galactic war, Bajor is still not suitable and ready to enter the Federation.

 

[AnOminous]

He did Save Earth after stealing a Starship, it's really hard to court martial the guy that just saved The Capital of The Federation.

That's sort of the point of my comparison to the U.S. military, which seemingly has an unwritten rule you can break a rule and if it works they'll let it slide. If it doesn't, your ass is grass.

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

It's always gonna be funny to me how, DS9 starts because Bajor is requesting to enter the Federation, and after 7 years and an inter-galactic war, Bajor is still not suitable and ready to enter the Federation.

What?

Literally the plot to an episode is that Bajor is about to sign on the dotted line to join the Federation but Sisko Kool-Aid Mans his way into the ceremony and is like, "Aw hell naw!"

 

[Travoltron]

I dunno. I read some interview where Behr basically said Bajor not joining the Federation was his own personal "fuck you". I'm not sure to whom. Gene Roddenberry? Rick Berman? The audience? Who knows. Now that I know that it was only done out of petulance by ridiculous blue-bearded man, it taints that part of the show for me.

 

[Kerr Avon]

Troon Mallory Ortberg ( thread in Stinkditch)) git interviewed about "passing" in Star Trek

https://archive.is/aAj5Q

 

[Burt Ryan]

What?

Literally the plot to an episode is that Bajor is about to sign on the dotted line to join the Federation but Sisko Kool-Aid Mans his way into the ceremony and is like, "Aw hell naw!"

I remember that episode, yes. But even after the Dominion War ends, the Federation's last thought in their mind is to invite a over-religious planet among their ranks.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

there's several slurs for Cardassians
there's no slurs for Bajorans
simply calling them Bajoran is enough, there's no reason to make things worse

 

[TVB]

there's several slurs for Cardassians
there's no slurs for Bajorans
simply calling them Bajoran is enough, there's no reason to make things worse

Bajiggers?

 

[Flexo]

Bajiggers?

Bikes.

 

[TenMilesWide]

there's several slurs for Cardassians
there's no slurs for Bajorans
simply calling them Bajoran is enough, there's no reason to make things worse

mining equipment

 

[NSA]

-Occupation ends
-Federation gibs you the means to rebuild
-Start bombing your own temples
-Start assassinating each other
-Start buying weapons from the Cardassians so you can overthrow your own government

ATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS

 

[TVB]

Bajoran wage cucks?

 

[Evil Peter Griffin]

I thought those fucking Spoon Heads called them Crinkle Noses?

 

[Feathers McGraw]

In case anyone else has fond memories of the Birth of the Federation PC game they released in the 90's, it looks like there's a similar game being made by Paradox that just had a trailer released.

Dukat's in the trailer so I assume we can play as the Cardassians and exterminate the Bajorans properly this time.

 

[Flexo]

In case anyone else has fond memories of the Birth of the Federation PC game they released in the 90's, it looks like there's a similar game being made by Paradox that just had a trailer released.

Dukat's in the trailer so I assume we can play as the Cardassians and exterminate the Bajorans properly this time.

Nice.

Was this the place that clued me in on this?

https://www.armadafleetcommand.com/get-files?ssid=4

BOTF download along with like... a thousand mods so you could play as the borg, or skip building upgrading, or get a flagship or....

Man I will rust away playing that game.

 

[Still Exceptional]

-Occupation ends
-Federation gibs you the means to rebuild
-Start bombing your own temples
-Start assassinating each other
-Start buying weapons from the Cardassians so you can overthrow your own government

ATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS

I have never understood WHY the Federation would even want Bajor as a member world. The Bajorans are a race of religious nuts. No, I don't care that their gods do technically exist. They act as irrationally as people who believe in bullshit made up gods that don't exist. They used to have a caste system, only abolished because of the occupation, and then the moment they reinstated it they started behaving like savages up to having one of them push a dude to his death because "Me no want you be priest, your caste unclean!" and killed him when he refused to resign from the priesthood.
And that was the one incident we SAW. How many times did that scene play out on Bajor? How many times did that scene play out on DS9 but with a beating instead of an act of murder?

These people are unpredictable zealots who try to decipher and act on the words of aliens they don't understand and are actively opposed to understanding for religious reasons. If the next Kai interprets some prophecy wrong or has an orb experience they don't understand they could get it into their heads that the Prophets want Bajor to wipe out all "corporeal, linear lifeforms" and start a fucking galaxywide jihad. Or if they thought the Prophets wanted human sacrifice, they'd start yeeting babies into furnaces the next fucking day.

Why the fuck would you WANT people like this on your side?