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At least strange new worlds came up with an in-universe reason for the singing, though it really did feel like a lower decks thing, like you say. TOS just had a bunch of hippies start singing for no reason, because roddenberry got high and wanted a musical.

All that said, I think I'm going to skip this one. I can't stand musicals.
I mean technically speaking TOS had an "in-universe" reason for the hippies too. It may have sucked, but it was explained.

I'm now curious what SNW's explanation is.
 
I mean technically speaking TOS had an "in-universe" reason for the hippies too. It may have sucked, but it was explained.

I'm now curious what SNW's explanation is.
If I understand things correctly, they break the universe by transmitting music into a science wibbly called a "subspace fold". This somehow moves them into a new reality where everyone is compelled to sing out their inner monologues instead of just keeping it inside their heads. Which, I suppose, is why the Klingons turn up, because they're being compelled to act like a 980s boy band. Very dishonourable.
 

The last part seems to summons it all up
"What does it matter if your favorite restaurant is replaced with a fast food joint? Its all food and it all ends up turning into shit anyways!"

This is the consequences of a society becoming this culturally nihilistic, "nothing matters anymore" so why you should care if they destroy what you once loved and had standards? Its all content at the end of the day, so why one should care about its quality?

All symptoms of a broken society bleeding out while pretending its not happening and trying to normalize why everything is turning gray and its getting hard to breath.
 

The last part seems to summons it all up
"What does it matter if your favorite restaurant is replaced with a fast food joint? Its all food and it all ends up turning into shit anyways!"

This is the consequences of a society becoming this culturally nihilistic, "nothing matters anymore" so why you should care if they destroy what you once loved and had standards? Its all content at the end of the day, so why one should care about its quality?

All symptoms of a broken society bleeding out while pretending its not happening and trying to normalize why everything is turning gray and its getting hard to breath.
This is too autistic for me. If your favourite restaurant has evolved into fast food slop, just don't eat there anymore. If you don't like these new shows, don't support them. We're talking about disposable media used to entertain you while you're bored here, not something more important like free speech or taxes where you can't just opt out of government rules.

To extend on Dave's own metaphor, if my favourite restaurant got bought by a larger chain and gets turned into fast food slop that I did not like, I would stop eating there. Dave apparently keeps eating there like a faggot cuck and is extremely bitter about others that eat there who enjoy the slop claiming they are gaslighting him. Like, it's a restaurant. You're not going to die or cease to enjoy your life if you just go somewhere else or make your own food at home.

I got no problem ragging on new media for being retarded and laughing as it burns down because it doesn't appeal to anyone any more, but there's a difference between doing that and throwing an absolutely autistic shitfit. I think that's the difference between someone like say, The Critical Drinker and Dave Cullen. Critical Drinker is like "Ha ha ha. Isn't Hollywood retarded? Who is this even for?" and Dave Cullen is like, "I'm going to shoot up a Denny's over this."

I really do think it's the height of absolute faggotry to get that worked up over a show on a c-tier streaming service nobody subscribes to when you're well into your 30s as opposed to just not spending money on it.
 
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Why the fuck do those Klingons have the ridges on their heads? We clearly see the Kilngons do not look like that during this time period in TOS, and on Enterprise it is explained that this is the result of a virus that spread through the Klingon Empire. I swear to god these shows make me so angry, I'm going to punch my fucking wife.
 
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Dave Cullen is like, "I'm going to shoot up a Denny's over this."
If that's what you got out of his video I'm rating you autistic.

Also you seem to be missing the "favorite" part of the whole equation. Let's put it another way: "why are you so upset I killed your dog? LoL just go get a new one."

Like do we really have to spell out how attachments and fondness work out in the human experience? Are you even more robotic than me? "Oh I took away something you enjoyed? Why you getting so upset, faggot?"
 
Also you seem to be missing the "favorite" part of the whole equation. Let's put it another way: "why are you so upset I killed your dog? LoL just go get a new one."
I'm rating you autistic because you don't understand the difference between someone killing your dog that you own, and someone changing the menu at a favourite restaurant that you do not. Do you not understand the difference between someone destroying/killing your property and a businesses you have no ownership of selling out and getting shitty?

Nobody says you have to like your favourite restaurant changing or you can't hate the change. I'm making fun of Dave because he would seemingly continue to eat in said restaurant and loudly seethe about it as opposed to moving on with his life. I've had several favourite restaurants close over the years. I think most people have. A functional person will generally just find a new place to eat that they like.
Like do we really have to spell out how attachments and fondness work out in the human experience? Are you even more robotic than me? "Oh I took away something you enjoyed? Why you getting so upset, faggot?"
What was taken away in the case of bad new Star Trek being produced? Did the old shows vanish? Did they burn the old books? Did they go into Dave's living room and piss on his Deep Space Nine DVDs? What did Dave lose that he enjoys?
 
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Why the fuck do those Klingons have the ridges on their heads? We clearly see the Kilngons do not look like that during this time period in TOS, and on Enterprise it is explained that this is the result of a virus that spread through the Klingon Empire. I swear to god these shows make me so angry, I'm going to punch my fucking wife.
Shouldn't the Klingons look like the ones from Discovery? Or is that not canon anymore? I cant keep track.
 
Shouldn't the Klingons look like the ones from Discovery? Or is that not canon anymore? I cant keep track.
The writing is piss confusing. Either make up their minds and decide whether or not Klingons are canon or not in the show. It's also lazy writing
 
Shouldn't the Klingons look like the ones from Discovery? Or is that not canon anymore? I cant keep track.
Even in STD, they had to change the makeup so that actors could talk, so even these shows aren't consistent. Post JJ Trek is all Star Trek fanfiction anyways, so I don't care.
 
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Can you really even call it 'fan fiction' when the people writing it are clearly not fans and seemingly hate the source material?
Either way, it's just "writers" desperate for paychecks.
 
Dave Cullen is like, "I'm going to shoot up a Denny's over this."
If only Dave Cullen was this based...

This is too autistic for me. If your favourite restaurant has evolved into fast food slop, just don't eat there anymore. If you don't like these new shows, don't support them. We're talking about disposable media used to entertain you while you're bored here, not something more important like free speech or taxes where you can't just opt out of government rules.
Both things are related. TV, movies, books, comics are culture. And through culture is how ideas are passed. If our kids watch something that tells them that we need to tax people more, they will believe so.

Sure, stop watching Star Trek or Wars, marvel movies, comics,etc, but those things are still mass produced and millions still watch them innocently and become influenced by those ideas. If you don't tell your restaurant that the new food they offer you is bad, then they will bringing it back and soon, it's the whole city having the same bad food that people think it's normal to eat and don't complain about because they think it still tastes the same even when it's causing you cancer and diabetes.

Neither Cullen or Drinker are telling people to bomb Hollywood, they are saying big media is pushing for ideas that are bad for society and they are trying to pass them to children and normies. And they are right. Woke culture has become the norm because progressiveness is the norm in media. Star Trek has always had a progressive bias (fuck, it's about the future, of course it is), but they weren't assholes about it. They still talked about freedom of speech, the rights of the individual, and how totalitarianism was wrong. And trekkies grew up believing that. So, of course they have a point on saying how it's bad that new shows are trying to influence people with bad ideas. They aren't lying.
 
Not the worst thing about SNW, but its ironic for a show to be called "Strange New Worlds" and nothing is new and there's zero exploration. Isn't the Enterprise supposed to be a science vessel on an exploratory mission? There's always like the whole fleet nearby. Space feels small and routine and having zero mystery or discovery. Not a new problem for Trek, but it was never this bad.

I know almost everyone shits on the first couple seasons of Enterprise (or used to) but I loved that the Enterprise in it was a lone vulnerable vessel going into the unknown, instead of space cop rulers of the entire universe cruising around on patrol.
 
Isn't the Enterprise supposed to be a science vessel on an exploratory mission?
It's not a science vessel, it's a frigate. It is on a five year exploration mission though.

iirc science vessels in that era weren't armed but it's not like the writers give a fuck about ST history and canon.
 
It's not a science vessel, it's a frigate. It is on a five year exploration mission though.

iirc science vessels in that era weren't armed but it's not like the writers give a fuck about ST history and canon.
It's too heavily armed to be a frigate. It is crazy how it's a ship that's meant to do everything and reasonably exceeded those expectations. It could patrol and fight anything around its tonnage size or smaller. It's just that TOS had it dealing with Greek Gods or Space Magic or the Doomsday Machine, so the Connie got the Worf treatment.

Kruge did call it a Federation battleship and that is a reasonable interpretation of its tactical ability.
 
It's too heavily armed to be a frigate. It is crazy how it's a ship that's meant to do everything and reasonably exceeded those expectations. It could patrol and fight anything around its tonnage size or smaller. It's just that TOS had it dealing with Greek Gods or Space Magic or the Doomsday Machine, so the Connie got the Worf treatment.

Kruge did call it a Federation battleship and that is a reasonable interpretation of its tactical ability.
Memory Alpha says the Constitution class is a heavy cruiser and apparently was listed as such in TMP. I don't think the series went into detail on what kind of ship it was outside of a Starfleet one but I do remember that the pure science vessels were Oberth class.
 
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