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Ok look, if they REALLY wanted to make a great Star Trek show....

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Flexo said:
Ok look, if they REALLY wanted to make a great Star Trek show....

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Dammit now I want to see red fighting off a grizzly in the woods with a bat'leth that has handgrips wrapped in electrical tape over a prime fishing spot

Then, when he slays the mighty beast, crawling up on its chest, prying open its eyes and roaring like a klingon......to warn the DNR pricks to stay the fuck away from his kill cause he's taking the whole thing to the lodge to cook up some bear head stew. In true canadian fashion

Miller said:
Kai Winn aka the Hillary Clinton of Bajor.
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Better keep her away from any famous caves then. Who knows what she'll release to get her revenge for not getting her turn

Jones McCann said:
I just finished my rewatch of DS9. Conclusion? Dukat did nothing wrong, again.
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He failed to dick down kira. Isn't that wrong in itself?
 
WonderWino said:
Dammit now I want to see red fighting off a grizzly in the woods with a bat'leth that has handgrips wrapped in electrical tape over a prime fishing spot

Then, when he slays the mighty beast, crawling up on its chest, prying open its eyes and roaring like a klingon......to warn the DNR pricks to stay the fuck away from his kill cause he's taking the whole thing to the lodge to cook up some bear head stew. In true canadian fashion
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See? Told you all it would make a great show!
 
Evil Peter Griffin said:
How old is Gul Dukat? That motherfucker has to be like near 100.
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The series bible describes him as in his "40s", if he were a human. How old that really makes him I don't know. I can't find any canon info on the average Cardassian lifespan anywhere.
 
Chuck in his latest lower decks review invents a term I think is pretty useful.

"Bed of Meh" - like a bed of nails, but it's so much the impact kind of washes out.
 
Flexo said:
Chuck in his latest lower decks review invents a term I think is pretty useful.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CYXD1Lib6I0
"Bed of Meh" - like a bed of nails, but it's so much the impact kind of washes out.
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SFdebris has been one of those old timer reviewers I have actively stopped watching as of late

....not because of anything he has said or done mind you, but because seeing his take on how nu-trek panned out over the last few years would genuinely be depressing to witness given how bleak he sounded at his first taste of discovery and picard

WTBOnlineFather said:
I can't find any canon info on the average Cardassian lifespan anywhere
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I asked Chief O'Brien and he simply grunted "too fucking long" before downing the end of his bottle of Old Bringloid and going back to punching his yellow dog of a wife
 
Flexo said:
Chuck in his latest lower decks review invents a term I think is pretty useful.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CYXD1Lib6I0
"Bed of Meh" - like a bed of nails, but it's so much the impact kind of washes out.
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The problem with Chuck's "Bed of meh" is that the term as he describes it could honestly be applied to every single episode of Lower Decks, and he seems to be otherwise positive about most of the rest of the show.
Judge Holden said:
SFdebris has been one of those old timer reviewers I have actively stopped watching as of late

....not because of anything he has said or done mind you, but because seeing his take on how nu-trek panned out over the last few years would genuinely be depressing to witness given how bleak he sounded at his first taste of discovery and picard
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My other problem with Chuck is that like 90% of his Star Trek output for the past several years now has been him re-releasing old episodes that got removed from blip. I'm not expecting the guy to drop them all at once, but if he's going to be doing mostly re-runs, the least he can do is drop more than 1-2 a week, at least one new episode a week and fill in the rest of the week with the reruns. But he's mostly been filling in with shitty anime instead.
Judge Holden said:
I asked Chief O'Brien and he simply grunted "too fucking long" before downing the end of his bottle of Old Bringloid and going back to punching his yellow dog of a wife
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I will always applaud any instance of someone pointing out Chief O'Brien's racism against the cardies. It's one of my favorite things about the guy.
 
UnKillShredDur said:
I will always applaud any instance of someone pointing out Chief O'Brien's racism against the cardies. It's one of my favorite things about the guy.
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I love Cardassians in DS9 but I also love how racist everyone else is towards them. O'Brien's racism is kino. I hate that in VOY half the damn crew is Maquis but they're all massive pussies about their hatred of spoonheads including B'Elanna.
 
WTBOnlineFather said:
I love Cardassians in DS9 but I also love how racist everyone else is towards them. O'Brien's racism is kino. I hate that in VOY half the damn crew is Maquis but they're all massive pussies about their hatred of spoonheads including B'Elanna.
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I was going to point out that episode where she made an entire space ship racist against them, but I forgot she pussed out on that one, too.
 
indomitable snowman said:
She did object to using the medical data from the cardassian doctor to save her from the alien bug parasite. If I recall Janeway basically ordered her to use the treatment and the doc just deleted him afterwards anyway.
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That episode was frustrating to watch. They were so outraged by the Cardassian Mengele trying to save B'Elanna yet they never really went beyond "this is so naughty, we shouldn't be doing this".
 
Finished Voyager today. Man I hated that final episode. I mean it wasn't terrible but I imagined it would go more like this:

Voyager finds and commandeers Borg technology (hell imo it'd be way better if it weren't the fucking Borg again but the Queen's retarded story arc did need closure so I concede that) to get to Earth. Celebration takes place, people reunite with their families, everything is nice and relatively rosy, I really wanted to see some of the emotional tension finally find release. Shortly after, the Borg would follow Voyager to Earth to get revenge for Janeway violating the fucking NAP again and then there's a big battle that ultimately sees the Borg defeated. Maybe a Delta Quadrant species ship could've joined Voyager in the Alpha Quadrant and helped them. Hell, maybe this ship could've gotten stranded much like Voyager had and had to head back to the Delta Quadrant on their own with only the help of the Federation, that would've been a rather poetic ending.

Instead the twin-episode begins with an exposition dump that immediately spoils that Voyager ends up getting the "angsty bad" ending. Everyone is grey and fucked up, dead, traumatized, jaded, Tuvok has dementia, Chakotay fucking died from losing 7/9 (rofl). Then Admiral Karen Janeway decides to pull some timeline fuckery with magic Borg-killing technology that the Federation totally developed in 10 years, because she's just that pissed off and hates her life, and escapes into the real Voyager timeline in the Delta Quadrant. Then half the episode is lost on the inevitable Janeway vs Janeway catfight because both are barking at each other demanding to speak to the manager NOW. Admiral Janeway is disappointed and lets herself get killed with seemingly no plan but actually there was a plan all along. A single Borg sphere makes it to Earth with Voyager stowing away and is destroyed. Tom Paris is at the helm looking in his father's eyes as the doctor calls from sickbay to announce his kid is being born, and somehow neither Tom nor his dad say a single fucking word to each other about it. Cut to Janeway ordering to "set course for home" when Voyager is 20 fucking seconds away from being in orbit. The end! If you were curious how Voyager's reception back on Earth goes, get fucked!

I dunno I had higher hopes. DS9's ending was weird, this was less weird and more just unsatisfying. At least Neelix found happiness. That was a very heartwarming episode. I still don't know if being cool and totally chilled out (for the most part) is a Talaxian racial trait that they all just have but I really enjoyed that.

Anyway overall still an enjoyable series. I'll be watching Enterprise next, then TOS.
 
WTBOnlineFather said:
Instead the twin-episode begins with an exposition dump that immediately spoils that Voyager ends up getting the "angsty bad" ending. Everyone is grey and fucked up, dead, traumatized, jaded, Tuvok has dementia, Chakotay fucking died from losing 7/9 (rofl).
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As a few pointed out, the "bad" ending of Voyager at first isn't that bad. Sure some people died and got sick, but they had been doing that all 7 seasons. Why go back at that point and not earlier and save others?

The only conclusion is that Harry got to become a captain. That's just a fate Janeway will not stand for.

WTBOnlineFather said:
Then Admiral Karen Janeway decides to pull some timeline fuckery with magic Borg-killing technology
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Not only that - but time travel tech, from a Klingon. When did Klingons become Timelords? (They own "time crystals" in Discovery too.)
 
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