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Cnut said:
Contrast her with the guy who plays Meriwether who although perfect face and GI Joe body has absolute zero charisma and should never have been on the show.
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To be fair his character was for the most part completely ignored and forgotten about by the writers except for the mandatory black-guy-with-family-trouble episode. This guy was placed in one of the most prominent positions on the ship and given absolutely nothing to work with. He might not be a great actor but it's mainly the role that's shitty imo.
 
WTBOnlineFather said:
If you burn the rice, you'll pay the price just like O'Brien.
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The writers thought of everything: short term shoulder shenanigans, Miles getting killed and replaced by future-self, PTSD, suicidal thoughts, and of course, long-term yellow fever that'll pay off in future when his hapa kids develop depression over the fact that they don't really belong anywhere... You know, some of that applies to Worf and Dax, too, but at least they got a lot of hot sex out of it.
 
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
It's like how the HR lady somehow has authority when she really shouldn't.
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Yeah, basically. I remember my dad joking that Troi's whole purpose of being on the bridge was to say "He is mad at the Federation" after an angry Romulan, angry Duras-supporting Klingon, angry but polite Cardassian, or some other type of villain shouts "I WILL DESTROY YOU AND YOUR SHIP!" (Or, in the Cardassian's case, calmly and smugly states "I will destroy you and your ship.")

Honestly, that purpose would've been better fulfilled by something like an Eldar farseer from 40K, were it not for that idea being too blatantly magical/fantastic to fit with Star Trek, or the fact that the Eldar are even more annoying as a collective than any Starfleet HR officer.
 
WTBOnlineFather said:
To be fair his character was for the most part completely ignored and forgotten about by the writers except for the mandatory black-guy-with-family-trouble episode. This guy was placed in one of the most prominent positions on the ship and given absolutely nothing to work with. He might not be a great actor but it's mainly the role that's shitty imo.
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I like the idea that Shran never realized black people were human, thus him calling humans "pink-skins" and when he saw Merryweather he just figured that was just an example of the weird aliens that the Terrans will accept

but yeah a generational spacenoid among a bunch of earthers trying to go out into the void for the first time should have been a MUCH bigger part of the story than "oh yeah we have a black guy in the cast"
 
This might be unpopular, but back before Star Trek: Picard aired and they announced they would "humble" Picard, I was 100% on board. Jean-Luc Picard absolutely needed to be brought down to earth.

But he needed to be humbled the same way Q always humbled him—making him beg for his life at least twice (Tapestry and Q Who). Reminding him that neither him nor humanity are invincible. And that he had still so much to learn and grow. And that he didn't have all the answers. Jean-Luc Picard is an honorable man, but he was almost always operating within the safety net of the Federation. Or against obviously evil enemies. To take from Sisko's analogy, Picard was a saint in paradise. He needed to be challenged the same way Benjamin Sisko was—placed in situations where he wasn't always on the moral high ground and where there were no easy answers.

Imagine my disappointment when I learned that their idea of "humbling" him boiled down to "privileged white man bad." An absolute waste by braindead morons.
 
Mystery Spy said:
Imagine my disappointment when I learned that their idea of "humbling" him boiled down to "privileged white man bad." An absolute waste by braindead morons.
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As if Q even thinks that way. We're all humans to him.
 
On further reflection, having O'Brien be demoted definitely fits the narrative imperative that O'Brien must suffer
 
I don't think it's possible to be demoted from an officer down to enlisted. Otherwise Paris probably should have been reinstated as enlisted.
AnOminous said:
As if Q even thinks that way. We're all humans to him.
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I like to think that getting his ass kicked by the Sisko made Q racist against niggers.

Edit: come to think of it, he already doesn't seem to like Guinan very much, and he called Worf "micro brain," I might be on to something...



Also what are the odds he's involved with Q anon?
 
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UnKillShredDur said:
Edit: come to think of it, he already doesn't seem to like Guinan very much, and he called Worf "micro brain," I might be on to something...
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Don't forget: everyone in the Q Continuum is white. Every. Single. One of them. So, they probably never had a nigger problem. Or, what is more likely: they killed 'em all at one point.
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
Hoshi > T'pol. don't @ me cuz you know i'm right.
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I'll agree with you on that if nothing else in your post.

Van Darkholme said:
Their attempts to make Star Trek "sexy" (started in Voyager IMO, unless you count the DS9 episode with the lesbian thing between Dax and the other trill) and expand their audience was pretty embarassing. Those decontamination scenes in ENT were too on the nose for me. (not that I wouldn't violate the prime directive with early 2000's Jolene Blalock)
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I mean... Trek was always "sexy"...
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There's just a brief period where it was much more restrained. Though even DS9 had it's....
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moments.
 
Agreeably4263 said:
I was curious why O'Brien, an enlisted man, was the chief engineer for a critical space station. turns out the ds9 writers just wanted him to be enlisted, because on TNG he was an officer. Rodenberry wanted everyone on a spaceship to be an officer, like modern day astronauts. they just called him chief O'Brian on TNG becuase he was the transporter chief ,in the same way geordi was chief engineer. if you wanted you could make a silly retcon and say that his officers rank on the ship was a "field promotion" since all ship crews are officers, and when he got tranferred off to ds9 he went back to his original rank, but why bother? for that matter why bother making O'brian enlisted?
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O'Brien's rank on TNG was never fixed, either. He bounced between ensign, chief petty officer (single black pip) and lieutenant JG over the course of the series. He was finally settled as a chief petty officer by season 5.

As an aside, is it just me, or is there a sort of poetry in O'Brien's first full character episode being The Wounded?

Flexo said:
I mean... Trek was always "sexy"...
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