And when something wasn't right, they would discuss the best way to improve and take the best decisions. They didn't brood and sulk about how terrible they were, rather it was an acknowledgment that there will always be flaws and they always need to become better, hence Q's final lesson for Picard.
Yeah, it is very in character. And the Founders whole reason for being maniacs is that they are afraid that the Solids will exterminate them, which Section 31 essentially proves (even if the Founders started it.) It's an interesting mirror to the earlier episodes where the Tal Shiar and Tain also try to solve the problem of the Dominion through preemptive genocide, and it doesn't work then either. Showing that the characters are able to overcome their own "Super Secret Dark Intelligence group" in a way that the Cardassians and Romulans couldn't, while also proving the racist assumptions of the Founders wrong is a nice subtle touch. Meanwhile the Klingons appear to be too retarded to have any kind of Super Secret Dark Intelligence group.
For me the really interesting aspect of Section 31 was that what they were doing was legal. They were written into the federation charter, and had existed as long as Starfleet had. Though in the end even DS9 wasn't able to really develop the idea further than Bashir treating it as a conspiracy, which it really wasn't. And Alex Kurtzman dumb hack that he is just saw it as part of the IP that was popular with fans, and so it needed to be raped.
Except the Federation is perfectly fine letting inferior sentient species go extinct cause they haven't yet met their expectations of the Prime Directive.
Then sell Harry Kim as an indentured sex slave to the Breen. Completely unprompted without the Breen ever even asking or showing any interest.
Or indeed inferior sentient species who had met their expectations of the Prime Directive, but were being exterminated or enslaved by federation allies....or for that matter federation enemies.
Honestly I think what really sealed the deal with them being one of the original sins which begat nutrek to a large extent (along with the TNG movies' fixation with being melodramatic action flicks) is how they failed to have ENT retroactively justify the whole "there since the start of the federation and written into the charter" thing in a way that worked with the setting.
Imagine being that based.
Ya know its an interesting phenomena.
Honestly the only Vulcanian we see in real detail in the series is Spock, and he's a haafa from a noble family. Enterprise also took place like 200 years before TOS and also the Vulcan High Command had been infiltrated by Romulans.
Just watch the 3rd season and not care about the rest. The showrunners didn't.
I agree with Future!Janeway pounding the shit out of the "genocide" button (which she literally did, with the Borg; when I was a teen I chose to believe that it was just that group of Borg that died, along with every individual Cube having their own Queen). I disagree that Harry Kim would have been sold into slavery, since his ass belonged to Janeway and she never gave up a crewman or an officer as that meant she couldn't personally torture them herself.
My interpretation is that she was an escaped convict who had previously been hired as a mercenary by the Cardassians/Romulans/Breen to do off the books shit so fuckin heinous even they did not want to be seen associated with it, who murdered the original Janeway and took her place and identity with the OG being so goddamn boring and forgettable not even her closest colleagues noticed until it was far too late and "Janeway" had installed explosive implants in their spines that would detonate should they ever try to reveal who she really is.
Playing one of the most (if not THE most) unlikable character ever made also doesn't help.
I honestly can’t understand a word she says.
Here's my drunk shit take: Alex Kurtzmann is one of the mongoloid apoidic niggers responsible for Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. All this rationalization is for naught, this is the man who helped write RC car toy robot humping a teenager's leg, secret evil infiltrator robo-slut, Optimus "War Criminal " Prime, and pot-brownie mom, and he deserves an early death of coke OD or liver failure or other drug-related complication. He has zero brain activity, just feels, and in his current milieu those feels are "redemption and love (but not for evil conservitards, but evil space people are OK so long as they don't look like Drumpf)" instead of the "hot chicks and sex and robot violence, BRO!" feels that apparently dominated his ROTF writing session(s).
As a rule I don't hit women but it would be fun to get in a ring with Michelle Yeoh and just beat the brakes off her just for the reddit malding it woudl cause.
