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But my point was that, while Star Trek does have this, it isn't reliant upon it in the same way that the Star Wars and MCU productions have been.
Well, Bad Robot Trek is built out of Abrams Trek 09, but like Star Wars, there's so much Styrofoam in it that it doesn't even come across as a Cinematic Universe. All that Romulan Supernova talk is the link between all of those shows. So yes, Trek does rely on Cinematic Universe storytelling, but they found the only one that's compelling is Berman Trek-era stuff.
 
And I definitely agree with you about Nero being a retard. He literally could have just waited and used his advanced future knowledge to save his people, possibly even give them an advantage if he was smart.
In one of those not shown on screen but is explained elsewhere, Nero, the Nerada and crew were captured by the Klingons and were held to twenty plus years. Uhara talking to her roommate about intercepted Klingon transmission of them losing a fleet, is of Nero, crew and ship having just done a jailbreak. As to why Nero didn't go to Romulus and tell them of the impending disaster and instead fucking with old man Spock is on screen retardism. Since he have Spock's squid ship and the red matter and can choose whenever to destroy Vulcan as his leisure.
 
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In one of those not shown on screen but is explained elsewhere, Nero the Nerada and crew were captured by the Klingons and were held to twenty plus years. Uhara talking to her roommate about intercepted Klingon transmission of them losing a fleet, is of Nero, crew and ship having just done a jailbreak. As to why Nero didn't go to Romulus and tell them of the impending disaster and instead fucking with old man Spock is on screen retardism. Since he have Spock's squid ship and the red matter and can choose whenever to destroy Vulcan as his leisure.
And his pointy ship is 100 years more advanced than anything else, so getting caught by the Klingons doesn't make sense, hence why it was cut.

In general, the hidden problem with Abrams movies is he probably did shoot a scene that did explain how the next scene happens, but then it gets cut because it's too slow or boring. Then the movie as a whole doesn't make sense because that boring talky scene was a keystone.
 
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Fun fact: Disco is RTD's favorite Star Trek series.

Honestly, fun facts? They're not fun.(:_(
To be honest, the Orville's biggest issues are branding related. To this day people still think it's a Trek parody.
For every clever Trek reference, there’s about 10 or 12 scatological gags.

Seth grew up in the 80's, he's not wired for that kind of optimism.
 
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I don’t believe him to be honest. I am sure he gave that answer because he knows perfectly well Trek fans hate it. But he chose it as a way to “own” the chuds. The Doctor Who franchise might be even worse than Trek in hating their audience, because at least Nu trek feigned even if it was as bait, to backtrack a little. RTD doesn’t hide the fact he loathes his audience.
 
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RTD doesn’t hide the fact he loathes his audience.
I'd agree with you, except Eccleston and Tennant were when the show actually started pushing for something more grown-up. Now everything’s a bit off, with the money men breathing down creative's neck. This isn’t a new problem; Smith, late Capaldi and Whittaker were all aimed at "families." It felt like a watered-down, PG version of Tennant.

Production-wise, it’s still a mess. They couldn’t get Ncuti to commit to a full season because he's busy posing for fragrence ads and Doctor Who doesn’t pay enough. :story:
 
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I'd agree with you, except Eccleston and Tennant were when the show actually started pushing for something more grown-up. Now everything’s a bit off, with the money men breathing down creative's neck. This isn’t a new problem; Smith, late Capaldi and Whittaker were all aimed at "families." It felt like a watered-down, PG version of Tennant.

Production-wise, it’s still a mess. They couldn’t get Ncuti to commit to a full season because he's busy posing for fragrence ads and Doctor Who doesn’t pay enough. :story:
Matt Smith's era was too popular. We're past the point of "family entertainment" and in full overdrive on RTD and the writing staff catering for whatever is left of the DW Tumblrites.
 
Chalk another one up for "Love the art, hate the artist."

There honestly comes a point where you can't even look at the "art" the same anymore. Just look at Robert De Niro. I can't even STOMACH to watch a film he's in now due to his fake "tough guy" bullshit in and out of his acting. Robert is just a beta government bootlicker. It's honestly kind of pathetic.
 
There honestly comes a point where you can't even look at the "art" the same anymore. Just look at Robert De Niro. I can't even STOMACH to watch a film he's in now due to his fake "tough guy" bullshit in and out of his acting. Robert is just a beta government bootlicker. It's honestly kind of pathetic.
I tend to think most "artists" are shitty people, anyways.
 
In one of those not shown on screen but is explained elsewhere, Nero, the Nerada and crew were captured by the Klingons and were held to twenty plus years. Uhara talking to her roommate about intercepted Klingon transmission of them losing a fleet, is of Nero, crew and ship having just done a jailbreak. As to why Nero didn't go to Romulus and tell them of the impending disaster and instead fucking with old man Spock is on screen retardism. Since he have Spock's squid ship and the red matter and can choose whenever to destroy Vulcan as his leisure.
Wow it would have been great for literally any of that to have been in the movie. Like, any of that.
 
In one of those not shown on screen but is explained elsewhere, Nero, the Nerada and crew were captured by the Klingons and were held to twenty plus years. Uhara talking to her roommate about intercepted Klingon transmission of them losing a fleet, is of Nero, crew and ship having just done a jailbreak. As to why Nero didn't go to Romulus and tell them of the impending disaster and instead fucking with old man Spock is on screen retardism. Since he have Spock's squid ship and the red matter and can choose whenever to destroy Vulcan as his leisure.
That sounds like a much better movie than the one they actually made.
 
iirc the backstory for FlareTrek 1 was pretty heavily fleshed out in comics and stuff, and includes B4 getting basically absorbed by Data's personality because fuck B4 nobody liked him so now Data is Captain of the Enterprise
 
iirc the backstory for FlareTrek 1 was pretty heavily fleshed out in comics and stuff, and includes B4 getting basically absorbed by Data's personality because fuck B4 nobody liked him so now Data is Captain of the Enterprise
B4 was a disaster. It was like, how do we make this actor look even more pathetic? Oh, I know—baby talk.

The only Spiner character I actually bought into was Adam Soong. His boomer entitlement and rage felt genuine—almost too genuine, if you ask me.
 
iirc the backstory for FlareTrek 1 was pretty heavily fleshed out in comics and stuff, and includes B4 getting basically absorbed by Data's personality because fuck B4 nobody liked him so now Data is Captain of the Enterprise
You know what I do when I go see a movie? I want to see a movie not read all the stuff that wasn't in the movie that they put in comics and stuff.
 
In one of those not shown on screen but is explained elsewhere, Nero, the Nerada and crew were captured by the Klingons and were held to twenty plus years. Uhara talking to her roommate about intercepted Klingon transmission of them losing a fleet, is of Nero, crew and ship having just done a jailbreak. As to why Nero didn't go to Romulus and tell them of the impending disaster and instead fucking with old man Spock is on screen retardism. Since he have Spock's squid ship and the red matter and can choose whenever to destroy Vulcan as his leisure.
Setting aside the fact that you only get credit for what you actually show on screen, it makes Nero an even more pathetic villain if offscreen he and his crew got overpowered by Klingons with ships over a century less advanced then his own, and begs the question of why the Klingons never used that ship after capturing it. We see how much it fucks up contemporary Federation ships.

And yeah, him wanting revenge for something that has not happened yet, and that he has more than enough time to think of a way to fix, makes me realize that yeah Star Trek 2009 was a pretty shit film the more you think about it.
 
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