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Farmholio said:
Just about all of the plotlines around the Moclans have a clear political right side which I'm guessing happens to be MacFarlane's side. I point to the episode about the evil sexist Moclans oppressing the female underground railroad. But if I went over every instance of the show's writing having a political slant I'd be going over just about the entire content of the show. I still enjoyed a lot of The Orville but I'm just baffled anyone would say it doesn't try to insert some current year politics with a heavy bias. It's a little distracting, perhaps not catastrophically show-ruining I guess. Certain episodes I have no desire to rewatch because they're too heavy handed like this though.
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I still think it's hilarious with the gender episode they unintentionally made the government wanting to forcibly change a child's gender out to be the bad guy for that. This is generally a policy that I think Seth would support due to his own retardation.
 
Now I want to hear Quark rant about how "they're turning the freaking Jem'Hadar gay." (and being right about it because of Section 31 or whatever.)
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
My headcanon is Quark becomes a conservative political commentator broadcasting from the bar about the fallen state of Ferenginar
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"So Morn, have you heard about this 'mushroom engine' the Federation built? I'm not making that up. A ship that ran on mushrooms. - Hey, Jake, pull that story up."

Oilspill Battery said:
Ds9 is by far my favourite star trek and sisko my favourite commander by far, but I just wanna point out, it has multiple blaxsploitation episodes about sisko being an oppressed writer in the 50s where everyone is comically racist against him nonstop and the only episode in star trek history where they say "nigger" with a hard r.

Also, he has a few other episodes where he starts getting uppity about vic's club because "400 years ago we wuz slaves n shiet" and starts bitching about segregation and all the usual shit etc etc.
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No that was literally just 2 episodes.

Benny Russell was 1 episode. They had a brief flash of Benny in the opener of season 7 where they gave Sisko a vision of being in an asylum.

And yes, Ben complaining about Vic's was exactly 1 episode. The one where they have to do an Ocean's 11 style heist.
 
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Flexo said:
And yes, Ben complaining about Vic's was exactly 1 episode. The one where they have to do an Ocean's 11 style heist.
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and a big part of that story is literally every other character telling Ben to calm the fuck down it's just a game, and ends with Sisko finally coming around and having fun
 
The one episode Joe Sisko visited ds9 station, he became part of some gay alien nigger LSD-vision. We never see him visit Quark's, or the bajoran temple, or anything that matters. what a waste.. only so we can have in the important "racism is bad" episode. Joe Sisko is one of the most interesting guys in Trek.
 
More Joe Sisko NOW!

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XYZpdq Jr. said:
and a big part of that story is literally every other character telling Ben to calm the fuck down it's just a game, and ends with Sisko finally coming around and having fun
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That episode pissed me off so much. Sisko isn't even all that black in the grand scheme of things.. he's half wormhole alien. *I* might even be more black than he is.
 
botrix_fan said:
He's also his own grandson. It's complicated.
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My favourite timeline because it turns out if Captain Sicko just gets taken out the Dominion War never starts and billions upon billions of people never have to die.
Maybe got some terrible consequences further down the time stream but it's very on-the-nose about the perils of reckless intervention like what the Federation loves to pretend they don't get up to constantly (Klingons had the right idea; just seal the Wormhole nothing good can come out of that cosmic anal fissure).
 
Oilspill Battery said:
Also, he has a few other episodes where he starts getting uppity about vic's club because "400 years ago we wuz slaves n shiet" and starts bitching about segregation and all the usual shit etc etc.
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To be fair, he did experience the 1950s more recently than anyone else on the station with his racism visions.
 
indomitable snowman said:
To be fair, he did experience the 1950s more recently than anyone else on the station with his racism visions.
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yeah as clunky as the idea of "Captain Black Guy is mad because there was racism a billion years ago" reads on paper it played out a lot better in practice than it really had any right to
 
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