Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[Kyria the Great]

And read books that are considered classic by our standards.

To be fair, this was what one of the last baseball stars before the sport went out of style looked like.
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I actually like Discovery, and think the twist itself is well-executed... but then they immediately killed out Lorca without really doing anything with his character.

He's supposed to be a cheap Trump allegory, but it's hard to really see him as evil because the person he's trying to overthrow was a violent tyrant who ate Kelpiens. While not exactly pleasant, Lorca never really mistreated any of his crew, least of all the aliens like Saru, another Kelpien.

And you can't say they didn't have enough time, because there were still two more episodes after they left the Mirror Universe to wrap up the

Klingon War.

I just hate they took the mirror universe seriously when it was an excuse for the actors to play mustache twirling villains

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I just hate they took the mirror universe seriously when it was an excuse for the actors to play mustache twirling villains

I liked mirror-Sisko.

 

[Kyria the Great]

I liked mirror-Sisko.

Same but we know just like the time episodes it's an excuse to have fun

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

I just hate they took the mirror universe seriously when it was an excuse for the actors to play mustache twirling villains

The fact that nobody's mirror counterpart got an evil beard is inexcusable.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

The fact that nobody's mirror counterpart got an evil beard is inexcusable.

I mean, depending on how you define it, Kira got quite a few of them.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

The fact that nobody's mirror counterpart got an evil beard is inexcusable.

That'd look weird on mirror-Kira and both mirror-Daxes.

 

[Captain Syrup]

And instead of making her badass they wrote her to appear as a blubbering retard.

I've long suspected Tennant is the Obama of sci-fi: everyone loved him so no one noticed the cracks forming underneath. Like, why are all the main characters crying all the time now? When did space become group therapy?

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

When did space become group therapy?

Around the time when the elites decided that everything has to become miserable, fake and gay. STD really is a product of its time and that's the only thing it has in common with other Star Trek-series.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

How did we only get an Andorian crewmember by Strange New Worlds

iirc there were issues with making the prosthetic antennae not look like shit until Ent, and by then Trek was circling the TV drain
like when Lal was checking out bodies that TNG Andorian was def in the "yeah, I can see why they tried, and then I can see why they didn't"

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I've long suspected Tennant is the Obama of sci-fi: everyone loved him so no one noticed the cracks forming underneath. Like, why are all the main characters crying all the time now? When did space become group therapy?

I feel awkward grousing about overacting in Trek, but yeah subtle acting, even when Kirk/Picard/Sisko/Janeway are clearly playing to the rafters they still don't need to put on the waterworks so much

 

[Captain Syrup]

iirc there were issues with making the prosthetic antennae not look like shit until Ent, and by then Trek was circling the TV drain

I get that ENT wanted to make their antennae emote. In practice, we got a couple scenes of Combs sitting completely still so the delicate animatronics wouldn’t freak out. They could’ve just used CGI.

But no, we got lumpy rubber foreheads slapped on big blue heads. Meanwhile everyone was sick of “alien = silly putty glued to head”. Like, if VOY taught us anything it's that humans have the smoothest heads in the universe.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I get that ENT nted to make their antennae emote. In practice, we got a couple scenes of Combs sitting completely still so the delicate animatronics wouldn’t freak out. They could’ve just used CGI.

But no, we got lumpy rubber foreheads slapped on big blue heads. Meanwhile everyone was sick of “alien = silly putty glued to head”. Like, if VOY taught us anything it's that humans have the smoothest heads in the universe.

yeah it wasn't quite Zaphod's second head but it was def wasn't a massive success

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

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I've long suspected Tennant is the Obama of sci-fi: everyone loved him so no one noticed the cracks forming underneath. Like, why are all the main characters crying all the time now? When did space become group therapy?

I don't mind crying. What I mind is whining. If an actor gets really into the moment and tears up during an emotional scene but maintains composure, it's fine. It's the fucking crybaby bullshit that bugs me.

Around the time when the elites decided that everything has to become miserable, fake and gay. STD really is a product of its time and that's the only thing it has in common with other Star Trek-series.

I blame Joss Whedon for this, but Hollywood people overshare now. There needs to be a TMI scanner emoji for movie ratings and it would apply to pretty much everything on the screen for the past 20 years. It's not even that everything is miserable, fake, and gay. It's that writers, actors, producers, and directors insert themselves into shit way too much and it makes everything suck ass because these people are boring, uninteresting, and also suck ass. Rick & Morty and BoJack Horseman weren't cynical trauma dumps because the writers thought it would be cool, they were cynical trauma dumps because the writers are truly that pathetic and think they're being clever by putting themselves into the product.

I get that ENT nted to make their antennae emote. In practice, we got a couple scenes of Combs sitting completely still so the delicate animatronics wouldn’t freak out. They could’ve just used CGI.

Nah, fuck CGI. Practical effects and animatronics need to make a comeback. CGI always takes me out of it.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

But no, we got lumpy rubber foreheads slapped on big blue heads. Meanwhile everyone was sick of “alien = silly putty glued to head”. Like, if VOY taught us anything it's that humans have the smoothest heads in the universe.

They actually made that joke on an episode of Prodigy when they introduced a hologram of Captain Janeway.

Jankom Pog (A Tellarite): She's hideous. Why is her forehead so smooth?
Holo-Janeway: You're no summer peach either, Tellarite.
Jankom Pog: HAHAHAHA! Jankom Pog likes her.

 

[Captain Syrup]

They actually made that joke on an episode of Prodigy when they introduced a hologram of Captain Janeway.

Seska said it first.

"What do you think of your son, Chakotay? He has your eyes, don't you think? Thank goodness he doesn't look too human. You all have such weak foreheads."

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

Seska

What the fuck was her problem anyway...

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

What the fuck was her problem anyway...

She was a Cardassian agent who was surgically altered to look like a Bajoran to go undercover with the Maquis, got drafted onto a Starfleet crew after being flung to the space boonies, quickly defected to join the Kazon, got more surgery to look like a Cardassian again, and had a child with the leader of the Kazon-Nistrim.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

She was a Cardassian agent who was surgically altered to look like a Bajoran to go undercover with the Maquis, got drafted onto a Starfleet crew after being flung to the space boonies, quickly defected to join the Kazon, got more surgery to look like a Cardassian again, and had a child with the leader of the Kazon-Nistrim.
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Uhm... man, this is contrived. Jesus fuck... I remember now why I skipped most of VOY back in the day.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

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Uhm... man, this is contrived. Jesus fuck... I remember now why I skipped most of VOY back in the day.

I don't even get why she needed to be a double secret reverse agent. If they wanted a Cardassian causing chaos in the Delta Quadrant, just make it so Seska was on a Cardassian ship that was stranded there by the Caretaker.

 

[Captain Syrup]

I don't even get why she needed to be a double secret reverse agent. If they wanted a Cardassian causing chaos in the Delta Quadrant, just make it so Seska was on a Cardassian ship that was stranded there by the Caretaker.

A Cardassian ship stranded in the Delta Quadrant with Voyager? Sure, just toss it on the heap with the time-traveling Romulan, the Ferengi, Borg (somehow less menacing every time), the entire Q Continuum on vacation, the Equinox, the time cops, a Klingon ship packed like a clown car, and genocidal holograms with samples of every single alpha quadrant race like it’s fucking Star Trek: Pokémon Snap.

The only thing missing is Boothby showing up to declare Janeway “a real one.” But they’d never be that obvious.

I’m actually glad no one’s touched the Cardassians since the 90s ended. Yeah, you could do something cool with them now, but you could also end up with six episodes on Cardassian gender fluidity so yeah, let them stay in DS9. I’m not even mad about Seska hiding out on Chakotay’s ship. It only gets dumb when she joins up with the Kazon like some kind of Cardassian Mata Hari. Like they’re gonna chase Voyager across the galaxy over... what? One disgruntled mole woman?

Meanwhile, Voyager’s out here body-slamming entire regimes into collapse and most people just shrug and go back to their mining operations. The only people who took it personally were the Devore Imperium, and even they gave up after one episode and Janeway warped out like nothing happened.

 

[teriyakiburns]

It's that writers, actors, producers, and directors insert themselves into shit way too much

It's just Method taken to its logical conclusion. Why get yourself into someone else's character when you already have the role you've spent your whole life preparing for? Somewhat hindered by the fact that most actors have as much substance and personality as a wet sheet of toilet paper.