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I feel awkward grousing about overacting in Trek, but yeah subtle acting, even when Kirk/Picard/Sisko/Janeway are clearly playing to the rafters they still don't need to put on the waterworks so much
All of the original captains (apart from Mulgrew I believe) were classically trained Shakespearean actors. They were trained to show a range of emotions in a usually bombastic style, and they all brought a certain flavor to their roles that way. Modern actors don’t know how to portray emotions other than screaming or blubbering.

Sisko was probably the most emotional of all the original captains, and yes it could be a bit hammy, but he played it so well it was compelling.
 
All of the original captains (apart from Mulgrew I believe) were classically trained Shakespearean actors. They were trained to show a range of emotions in a usually bombastic style, and they all brought a certain flavor to their roles that way. Modern actors don’t know how to portray emotions other than screaming or blubbering.

Sisko was probably the most emotional of all the original captains, and yes it could be a bit hammy, but he played it so well it was compelling.
oh yeah, they're totally from stage background, I think it works great for space captaining because "make a big fucking speech" is really about all you can do to look cool most of the time, it's not like you're grabbing a control stick and making the ship do sick spins
that would just be stupid
 
It's just Method taken to its logical conclusion. Why get yourself into someone else's character when you already have the role you've spent your whole life preparing for? Somewhat hindered by the fact that most actors have as much substance and personality as a wet sheet of toilet paper.
Oh my God, you're right.

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All of the original captains (apart from Mulgrew I believe) were classically trained
After the Geneviève Bujold fiasco I think the Star Trek producers just collectively decided, “Okay, no more actors. That was a disaster.” So from then on it was underwear models (if you want someone hot) and Broadway people (if you want someone who can cry on cue).
 
What the fuck was her problem anyway...
Not laid enough.

Speaking of...
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(personally I think they look more attractive than the normal human kardashians)
 
I actually thought Archer's loyalty to Porthos made sense in a lot of episodes. Klingons love their targs and humans love their dogs.

I didn't get the impression that baseball was dead so much as no one really played it, and it was considered kind of an obscure sport. Psychedelic rock is still around, but how many psychedelic rock bands can you personally name? Sort of like that. Also, to be fair, the only countries that really care about baseball are the US and Japan. Janeway and Chakotay being weirdos into an obscure sport like sumo wrestling makes sense, but I am willing to admit that I may be too kind on this point.

With water polo, my issue was more that it came out of nowhere and they didn't do anything with it. Fencing was used as a plot device in TNG. Baseball was brought up all the time in DS9. Racquet sports were featured a few times in Voyager. Water polo never fucking came up again in Enterprise.
I remember that the player character in Elite Force played Rugby, too.
 
All of the original captains (apart from Mulgrew I believe) were classically trained Shakespearean actors. They were trained to show a range of emotions in a usually bombastic style, and they all brought a certain flavor to their roles that way. Modern actors don’t know how to portray emotions other than screaming or blubbering.

Sisko was probably the most emotional of all the original captains, and yes it could be a bit hammy, but he played it so well it was compelling.
The only times I ever remember Brooks being "hammy" were:
  • In the holodeck when it was a caricature of Sisko as a Bond villain in one of Bashir's secret-agent programs
  • When he was completely out of character [the Sisko character and Brooks himself] crying about how a 24th century black man "should" have felt about the mid-20th century black experience in the entertainment industry at the beginning of the episode involving the takeover of the Vic Fontaine casino in the holosuite
And when I say out of character, for a better take on both the character and the actor's actual feelings, you need only watch the episode where he imagines all the primary characters as writers in the 1930s, which deals with some of the same issues...

It's almost like the former was an episode of STD dealing with issues of race while the latter is like watching an episode of TOS dealing with the same.
 
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They didn’t have to rehearse when Sisko was a Klingon. They just let a roomful of geeks ask him lore questions.
Fun fact: the line at the end of the episode where he says that he's going to miss the fangs wasn't in the original script. Avery Brooks was genuinely disappointed that he wasn't going to get to keep them.
 
For whatever it is worth, all the stories I have heard about Brooks at cons say he was really nice.
I've never interacted with him personally, but I def get the impression that HOW you interact with him makes a big difference. Not like a "you have to kiss his ass" but he seems like somebody who will decide something is bullshit and just play jazz at it, or decide something is real and be real.
 
I've never interacted with him personally, but I def get the impression that HOW you interact with him makes a big difference. Not like a "you have to kiss his ass" but he seems like somebody who will decide something is bullshit and just play jazz at it, or decide something is real and be real.
The only celebrity I ever interacted with that was as nice or as engaging was Edward James Olmos. Pity that by the time I finally met him he was starting to show early signs of dementia.

I got the feeling that both he and Brooks genuinely liked interacting with fans.
 
I've never interacted with him personally, but I def get the impression that HOW you interact with him makes a big difference. Not like a "you have to kiss his ass" but he seems like somebody who will decide something is bullshit and just play jazz at it, or decide something is real and be real.
I think he did that to Shatner because Shatner was being a douche and Brooks was not in the mood to deal with an egotistical Quebecois Jew.
 
The only celebrity I ever interacted with that was as nice or as engaging was Edward James Olmos. Pity that by the time I finally met him he was starting to show early signs of dementia.

I got the feeling that both he and Brooks genuinely liked interacting with fans.
All the stories I've heard about Brooks is he was very hard-working on the set and didn't tolerate amateurish shit. I can imagine him yelling at someone for walking on set who didn't belong there, à la Christian Bale (who did nothing wrong - his famous freak out was after asking the guy to stop walking on set during filming two times already), but I never heard about him being rude at cons. In fact, I don't think any of the DS9 actors have ever gotten bad reps for con behaviour. Armin Shimerman, Max Grodénchik, and Casey Biggs are legendary for having fun. Colm Meaney is well-regarded. In fact, people would literally spit on poor Louise Fletcher at cons because fans were retarded spergs who hated Kai Winn, and she basically took it as "wow I fuckin' nailed being a villain."
 
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